Each to their own
Exactly…you need a licence for most things in life except children, and one should do what one feels is right to protect those that they love.
Browse Forums General Discussion Re: Are bedroom sizes important? 22Jul 18, 2008 4:00 pm Make them larger if you can. i have looked through a few houses recently and I have no idea why anybody would inflict a small bedroom their kids if they had the choice when building
Most rooms have built in robes that you can't open fully when there is a double/queen bed in the room. And add a TV (you say you won't have them in kids rooms, but they'll ask...and ask...) and you can't get around the bed without walking sideways. And heaven frobid they want a desk as well. Re: Are bedroom sizes important? 23Jul 18, 2008 4:12 pm _Al_ And add a TV (you say you won't have them in kids rooms, but they'll ask...and ask...). Hey, I'm an expert at saying 'No'...I pride myself on it in fact . But seriously we lived without a TV at all for quite a few years . We only got one because we thought we'd better introduce the children to the "real world" And even then we only bought a second hand one, which we upgraded last year to a 54cm LG flatron Woo hoo. ( can you tell that we won't be having a home theatre) So I doubt very much that we will give in. kiwi056 one should do what one feels is right to protect those that they love. But I'm an expert...I've got 4 kids...everyone should parent the way I do 'chelle We have a hand-over date...15/10...but I won't hold my breath! http://people-in-glass-houses.blogspot.com/ Re: Are bedroom sizes important? 24Jul 18, 2008 4:27 pm I'm with you 'chelle.! My kids are 11 & 8 and really only discovered there was such a thing as commercial television when we lived with my mum whilst building ...... they'd only watched the ABC and videos on our one tv (have 2 now). So they can ask until they are blue in the face - it's not happening. That's a "core" promise! Re: Are bedroom sizes important? 25Jul 18, 2008 4:30 pm Sorry Joles,
Got off my soapbox and realised I was off topic Our bedroom is way too big but PD won't change. I like the kids to have decent sized rooms so they can play, study, have friends sleepover in their rooms etc Re: Are bedroom sizes important? 26Jul 18, 2008 4:37 pm kiwi056 Anyway to cut a short story long both are now well educated, hold well paid jobs, and are very sociable. No one said large bedrooms with TVs make people stupid or unsociable ! The point is only that layouts and room sizes can influence levels of interaction within the home. Personally, I don't think that big (grown up) people need big bedrooms. In fact I've long considered a design where a house occupied by, say, four people has seven or eight "sleeping nooks". Each nook might have a particular feature to it - perhaps a couple may be particularly isolated or quiet, one might be a bit like a sunroom for hot nights, another might be perfect for listening to the rain, or looking out a window if feeling ill etc. You choose a nook for the night depending on how you feel. The concept has other repercussions like needing a larger bathroom / dressing areas, and designated study zones and such, but I like toying with the idea. (ps: our TV is a 24-inch 'cube' from the 1980s) Do the hard jobs first. The easy jobs will take care of themselves. - Dale Carnegie Re: Are bedroom sizes important? 27Jul 18, 2008 4:40 pm We have small bedrooms as well (3.7 X 3.4 for ours and 3x3 for the rest ) it was purely economical on our part. We didn't want a big mortgage and so could only afford a piece of land so big so we sacraficed the size of the kids bedrooms for larger living areas. If you ask me bigger kids rooms just leads to bigger mess!! Seriously though, you get what you can, if you can only have smaller bedrooms it isn't a big deal, tvs can be wall mounted and there are space saving fold out desks around.. Re: Are bedroom sizes important? 28Jul 18, 2008 5:23 pm Our master bedroom is 4 x 3.8 which will easily fit a queen bed with side tables, a dressing table, a bookshelf and a coffee table. The coffee table will fit in the space created by the bay window. There is a WIR so this is all we need in our room. We don't have a TV in our bedroom but a small one could fit on the bookshelf or dressing table if we wanted and there is a TV point there.
Minor bedrooms are both 4 x 2.8, +BIR, only 1 child at home, his room in current house is larger, but square, we have figured he will fit everything in new house that he fits now, just less space in middle of room. He has single bed, TV unit, tallboy and small desk. (he is 16). Trundle beds are great for spare beds and take no room when stored. Other room will be a computer room/spare room, also with a bed and trundle and our lounge room can be closed off so guests could always sleep in there for a night or two. As for partners in the house I know I am old-fashioned but No Way! I'm not sharing my house with my child's partner (if he had one) Re: Are bedroom sizes important? 29Jul 18, 2008 5:36 pm Our bedroom sizes are:
Master - 3.8 x 5.8m Guest bedroom - 3 x 3.2m Kids room 1 - 3.2 x 3.7m Kids room 2 - 3 x 4.2 We went for smaller minor bedrooms so that they will socialise outside their rooms - no TVs in those bedrooms. And Helyn's right - if kids want to move in with their partners - they can move out! Or live in our camper trailer in the backyard. My parents may have made the ultimate mistake in their new home - my younger brother got a whole level (in the 3 level house) to himself - his bedroom is about 4 x 5m - has his own ensuite, huge BIR, entertaining area and balcony with waterviews. He's never going to leave home After 4 years - we're in! Re: Are bedroom sizes important? 30Jul 18, 2008 5:39 pm Cabinfever Bedroom size can directly influence social interaction. Do you want each person's bedroom to become their mini-loungeroom ? The place they have all their stuff, watch TV, use a computer, study, read, social etc ? Or is it better to have very simple "sleep compartments" with the essentials only. You then use the saved space to create several communal areas. A quiet one for reading and study; another for computers and game consoles; another for eating and chatting etc. Very small bedrooms will force people to come out and be socialable. Cabinfever No one said large bedrooms with TVs make people stupid or unsociable ! The point is only that layouts and room sizes can influence levels of interaction within the home. No I guess not...sorry for misreading your post! Re: Are bedroom sizes important? 31Jul 18, 2008 5:57 pm Glad you see the distinction. Do the hard jobs first. The easy jobs will take care of themselves. - Dale Carnegie Re: Are bedroom sizes important? 32Jul 18, 2008 6:04 pm Our minor bedrooms are all 3.5 by 3.5 - then they each have a separate built-in robe (except for bedroom 2 which has a walk-in) as well as a small ensuite each. They are large enough for a queen size bed each as the kids get larger but at this stage they are more then large enough for a single bed, chest of drawers, bedside plus desk. Their toys will all be in the toyroom which is off the kitchen area so I can watch them.
All computers will be in the study, not in each bedroom. Our master is 4.5 by 4.5 however has a completely separate dressing room plus huge master bathroom - as our kids are only babies they will bath with us for quite a few years to come. We prefer the kids to be playing out in their toyroom rather then away in a bedroom. Once they reach teenage years then the toyroom will convert to their "chill" space. Re: Are bedroom sizes important? 33Jul 18, 2008 6:55 pm I think I was very lucky with my Mum, I met my husband when I was 16, he had moved from WA with no family when he was 17, we dated for 6 months, and then she invited him to move in with us when I was 17.
I was doing my VCE at the time and Mum said if my marks went down, my partner had to leave, luckily I got a great score and my bf stayed. We lived there until we were 19 and 20 respectively and then brought our own house. It allowed us to save for a deposit, and also forged a great relationship between my parents and my hubby. My brother and his long term gf now live with my mum, they are also saving for a deposit, since my dad died a few months ago their company has been a god send for my poor mum... I have no problem in my children's partners living with us, providing it is at an appropriate age (I was a bit younger but it was different as my husband had NO family in Melbourne) and providing they are in a serious relationship with a long time goal to secure a home. In saying that I doubt my kids would want to live with me and their partners, in our situation with my parents it was the best option for all. But as I said before, each to their own My karma ran over your dogma Re: Are bedroom sizes important? 34Jul 18, 2008 7:08 pm Quote: But as I said before, each to their own Yes, fair enough, and I hope my post did not come across as judgmental, I know this is a fairly common situation and not meaning to tell others what to do. Not something I'm prepared to do myself though. Re: Are bedroom sizes important? 35Jul 18, 2008 7:17 pm Definately no offence taken Helyn
I appreciate the different ways parents raise their children, all of my friends parents at the time said NO WAY, and I respect that entirely. My karma ran over your dogma Re: Are bedroom sizes important? 36Jul 18, 2008 7:30 pm Cabinfever, I agree with you about the possibility of lack of social interaction when everything is in the bedroom. I am very firm on no TV and no computers in bedrooms.
Stonecutter your minor bedrooms would be considered large!! In our situation the bedrooms need to be able to handle adult sized furniture. I have an invalid brother who will live with us initially and also my mum. Our minor bedrooms are as small as I was prepared to go and I would have preferred them a little bigger. The master is perfect. Bed 2: 3.33 x3.36 Bed 3: 3.78 x 3.03 Bed 4: 3.84 x 3 Master 4.43 x 4.24 I certainly didn't want rooms that were like mini apartments, but rooms that could handle a desk and sleepovers etc were very important. Rooms that grew from kids to adult needs were also important. It's been really interesting to see how people feel about this issue and what there needs have been. Keep the comments coming. Jo I leave you to fend for yourself, figure things out yourself. Terrence Malick Re: Are bedroom sizes important? 37Jul 18, 2008 8:15 pm Our master bedroom is 4.3 x 4.7 and we think it is way too big, we regret not using that extra space somewhere else, such as the lounge or family room. The kids' bedrooms are 4.2 x 3 and that's a good size.
Our guest bedroom is a bit too small, it's 3.5 x 3.3 and I would make that bigger our the next house. Els Re: Are bedroom sizes important? 38Jul 18, 2008 8:36 pm Well I’ve go a 4 by 3.6 and I would love a large bedroom!
When we built 21 years ago, big bedrooms were not that common. Mind you I get by quite nicely; if I didn’t buy so many clothes and stuff (decorations) it would be better. I for one love large rooms, but I must say, some of the photos I have seen in the websites of some peoples builders are huge! Possibly an over kill. Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: Are bedroom sizes important? 39Jul 18, 2008 9:33 pm I don't want to turn my kids bedrooms into mini lounge rooms, and I won't allow tvs in their rooms, well at least not until they have finished high school, but I do want the rooms to be big enough to fit a decent size desk along with a double bed, bedside table with enough room left to move around and get dressed etc.
When they're little I want enough room for their bed, a few toy boxes, enough floor space to leave car games or doll houses etc out, with enough room for us all to sit on the floor in there and have a good game or build leggo castles etc. We're aiming for above 12m2, ie about 3 x 4 or equivelant, not including robes, which I think will be enough for what I want. Re: Are bedroom sizes important? 40Jul 18, 2008 10:52 pm My house only has small bedrooms of roughly 2.8X3m and a master with a retreat of around 6x4m. As most PD customers would appreciate, you don't get big kids rooms unless you go over about 40 squares.
The thing is most people want a lounge, family room, rumpus, study, another 3 bedrooms, large master and a dining room. Then there is the issue with the garages being too small at 5.5x6m. My point is that after you reach about 30 squares how far do you go? There has to be a balance but if you want everything then you are talking 40+ squares which many people can't afford. I ended up drawing the line at 29 squares and I figure even if I had kids there is a lounge, a family room, 3 bedrooms, a study and a rumpus room - if they can't find their own space with that then they have a problem. You could give them the entire rumpus room and still have an extra 2 rooms plus parents retreat to watch TV etc. There are lots of arguments for and against but as I grew up in the 70's & 80's I can't help but think kids are hardly being ripped off with the houses we are building.. The worst thing you can do is sign a building contract without a pre contract review. Over the years many people have come to me with disputes where they just signed… 0 8338 OK it's been a little while! I've been busy getting time where I can to work on this. I started by grading a pad (borrowing a… 26 19966 I have a box of quality drill bits that seem to be new but their engraved sizes covered by rust ,,,,I tried to sand them to see their sizes but still I am finding… 0 1429 |