Browse Forums General Discussion Re: Neighbour Unhappy - Building close to boundary 2Oct 25, 2015 7:28 pm Building a modified Madison 39 with Clarendon Homes in Tennyson homeone link: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=79106 Blog Link: https://minandb.wordpress.com/ Re: Neighbour Unhappy - Building close to boundary 6Oct 25, 2015 10:52 pm why do you have to ask for permission to build on boundary? I was under impression that you could do that on the garage side. What regulation is builder asking for permission? Re: Neighbour Unhappy - Building close to boundary 7Oct 26, 2015 2:00 am If you are in Perth you are allowed boundary walls that do not exceed 1/3 the length of the property and cannot be more than 9m is anyone wall. I have a total of 15m boundary walls and am in one of the most picky councils and they allowed it. You don't need the neighbours permission but they will get a chance to object if they like. I don't know why people make it so hard. I would prefer to have a nice brick wall than a metal fence. Cheers Mark Re: Neighbour Unhappy - Building close to boundary 8Oct 26, 2015 1:49 pm Garage wall on boundary is a relatively common occurrence. Formal objections, if lodged by your neighbour, must form a strong argument and rationale as to why they are objecting. You should be ok. Maybe the only cost which you may have to bear is time and therefore money! Re: Neighbour Unhappy - Building close to boundary 9Oct 26, 2015 3:40 pm Our neighbor is building on the boundary on their garage side, didn't really bother us because id rather a nice brick wall than a fence, plus it means there's less to retain. p.s - we didn't even get a letter of ''intent to build on the boundary'' because council approved it when they lodged their plans to the council anyway. First Home - Fairmont Homes - Vogue - Seaford Heights Vista - viewtopic.php?f=31&t=78691 Re: Neighbour Unhappy - Building close to boundary 10Oct 26, 2015 6:14 pm So it appears I'm a bit naïve with this house building caper. I spoke to the builder this morning about my neighbour who basically said its not really asking for permission. I then got a copy of the form which is called a Protection Work Notice. The builder said that the neighbour cannot stop the project and the protection work notice is more of a courtesy than anything. They then asked me to speak to the neighbour and ask them to sign it again. I popped around after work and the answer is still no. I think the neighbour thinks they can decide where and how my house is built. So after all that, it appears the maximum she can hold us up for is 14 days. This still inconveniences me and my builder is keen to get going as well. Re: Neighbour Unhappy - Building close to boundary 13Oct 28, 2015 8:07 pm Neighbours hey? If it makes you feel better we are having issues with our neighbour because she doesn't like that we have a 2nd story window overlooking her back yard... Not really sure what she was expecting, a house with no windows?? Lol Re: Neighbour Unhappy - Building close to boundary 14Oct 31, 2015 9:38 pm Bjhf Neighbours hey? If it makes you feel better we are having issues with our neighbour because she doesn't like that we have a 2nd story window overlooking her back yard... Not really sure what she was expecting, a house with no windows?? Lol what she wasn't expecting is to have her privacy compromised. People have a right to expect that the front yard is public, and the backyard is private, and by having windows facing her yard you are encroaching on that, and her enjoyment of the property. Her objection is totally understandable, it's not like she moved next door to a two storey home with windows overlooking her yard, she was there first. Perhaps what she was "expecting you to do" was use a house design that doesn't require windows on that side, or use frosted glass on that side for example so she could retain her privacy. Put yourself in her shoes, imagine you are the existing neighbour and someone decides to build a two storey home next door with windows suddenly overlooking your yard, how happy would you be? If you can't understand why she feels this way you are just too caught up in yourself and what you want without regard for your neighbour, it's that simple. Re: Neighbour Unhappy - Building close to boundary 15Oct 31, 2015 9:54 pm Wow Piscean, that's quite extreme. I'm afraid that if we were to avoid windows on each aspect of the house that may overlook somebody's back yard our house would quite literally have no windows. I personally think that if you live in a built-up area you have to expect that you can't have 100% privacy as you would if you lived on acreage, for example. Unfortunately that's just the way it is when you live in suburbia. Of course I understand change is often difficult for people to accept but talking to each other and having reasonable expectations goes a long way. (FYI the window our particular neighbour was concerned about is high in our stairwell meaning nobody can actually stand there and stare at her back yard, and we wouldn't want to anyway.) Re: Neighbour Unhappy - Building close to boundary 16Oct 31, 2015 10:03 pm I agree, its residential and if you meet the covenants and all other council requirements than as a neighbor that is what you should expect, in first would be if they rezoned the lot next door to commercial or something like that you would have a grievance as things have changed. Nothing has changed in this case imho. Re: Neighbour Unhappy - Building close to boundary 17Oct 31, 2015 10:27 pm Our house is built to boundary otherwise it would not fit. Actually, no house plan would if it was not built to boundary. Re: Neighbour Unhappy - Building close to boundary 18Oct 31, 2015 10:37 pm [/quote] what she wasn't expecting is to have her privacy compromised. People have a right to expect that the front yard is public, and the backyard is private, and by having windows facing her yard you are encroaching on that, and her enjoyment of the property. Her objection is totally understandable, it's not like she moved next door to a two storey home with windows overlooking her yard, she was there first. Perhaps what she was "expecting you to do" was use a house design that doesn't require windows on that side, or use frosted glass on that side for example so she could retain her privacy. Put yourself in her shoes, imagine you are the existing neighbour and someone decides to build a two storey home next door with windows suddenly overlooking your yard, how happy would you be? If you can't understand why she feels this way you are just too caught up in yourself and what you want without regard for your neighbour, it's that simple.[/quote] WOW I am amazed that someone would post this sort of response. Put yourself in her shoes, well if the neighbour values their privacy so much then they should also understand the building codes that councils apply and realise that it is reasonably expected that someone may design a house that is two storeys. There are height limitations below which windows must be frosted and above which can be clear. Too caught up in yourself and want what you want. Are you for real. It is completely within the rights of the home owner to build within the guidelines set by the council. I think you need a rural block where noone will bother you and impinge on your important life. Thank you Piscean or Captain You Planet. I have gone many years on this forum without losing it but I am sorry you are simply out of line. Re: Neighbour Unhappy - Building close to boundary 19Oct 31, 2015 11:17 pm Bjhf Wow Piscean, that's quite extreme. I'm afraid that if we were to avoid windows on each aspect of the house that may overlook somebody's back yard our house would quite literally have no windows. I personally think that if you live in a built-up area you have to expect that you can't have 100% privacy as you would if you lived on acreage, for example. Unfortunately that's just the way it is when you live in suburbia. Of course I understand change is often difficult for people to accept but talking to each other and having reasonable expectations goes a long way. (FYI the window our particular neighbour was concerned about is high in our stairwell meaning nobody can actually stand there and stare at her back yard, and we wouldn't want to anyway.) No that's not the way it is if you live in suburbia. I have lived in suburbia for decades and never lived next door to a two storey home overlooking my back yard, in fact, my block is on a hill so I overlook the yards behind me and added fence extensions and tall shrubs so everyone has privacy, I didn't have to, but that's not the point, my neighbours don't want me looking at them and into their yards, whether it is incidental or imagined. no one is forcing you to build a two storey home in suburbia, and if you look around old suburbs, two storey homes were not the norm and people were quite content to live amongst each other in single storeys where fences were enough to give plenty of privacy. If no one is looking out that window, why not get it frosted? even if just to make your neighbour feel better? Mocking your neighbour because you feel their privacy is of less value than your house design shows a selfish attitude. I can guarantee if the roles were reversed you would feel exactly the same way as the neighbour, and you wouldn't be mocking the situation. If I was building a two storey home next to existing homes, I would absolutely do everything I could to make the neighbours more comfortable about their privacy, it's called consideration but you seem to think your neighbour is being unreasonable in not putting your needs or wants ahead of their own. It's just mindblowing. I suspect I am from a different generation where we actually gave a $hit about considering other people and thinking your neighbour is the problem because, damn they live in suburbia so should expect no privacy is a warped perception. People have been living in suburbia a long time without feeling like they are being watched, in fact your neighbour is probably one of those same people so has every reason to think they can expect privacy. Just because you took that feeling away doesn't mean they have no right to it. ps. your neighbour has no way of knowing how high that window is inside your house so that arguement means little. sometimes it's all about perception, and so again I would think frosting that window would be the best solution to put the neighbour at ease. Re: Neighbour Unhappy - Building close to boundary 20Oct 31, 2015 11:31 pm AussieMark well if the neighbour values their privacy so much then they should also understand the building codes that councils apply and realise that it is reasonably expected that someone may design a house that is two storeys. That would ONLY BE TRUE if codes didn't CHANGE and were in place and actually normal when the original owner bought the house in the first place, which may have been many years before. No one buys a house in the hopes or expectation someone will build a two storey home next door some day, and absolutely hopes they face their windows in their direction. That sort of prospect may have been so unlikely when the neighbour bought their house that your comment is just rediculous that they should have expected it. Quote: It is completely within the rights of the home owner to build within the guidelines set by the council. having the right to do something, and being a considerate neighbour are not the same thing. when someone starts talking about their "rights", it says a lot, hey as long as Im allowed to do this, to hell with anyone else, great attitude. Councils couldn't give a rats if neighbours get along or if changes to their codes upset people and this is at the heart of the problem. all they really care about is housing values, which translate to rates/income for the council, simple as that. Quote: I think you need a rural block where noone will bother you and impinge on your important life. lol, ummm, I'm not sure why this situation means I need to move out to the bush, I'm not the neighbour in question and don't live next door to a double storey house so that comment makes noooo sense at all but thanks for the advice Dr Phil. Surrey Hills, Vic 3127 Garage is being built with metal, 3m distance away from my cover deck. It is parallel to my cover deck, living room, family room and kitchen,… 0 7033 You should be able to encase the sewer but you will need it designed and approved and access to lot 580 to do the work 2 12659 Hello, We are about to build and the plans show a part of the exterior wall is being built on top of a limestone retaining wall. Does this mean the retaining wall will… 0 5238 |