Browse Forums General Discussion 1 May 11, 2015 6:56 pm Is this acceptable? Our original plans show the downpipes are either side of the bedroom, they are now on the front and in the middle of our facade, we've been told they probably can't be moved due to a beam or something being in the way, I think it will look ridiculous and ruins our facade? Should I push this further? http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b96/tarzncobalt/9A24183A-68FE-431F-B0DB-3CB8F1762E1B_zpskehbgruc.jpg Re: Downpipes on front facade 3May 11, 2015 8:07 pm That is a ridiculous answer as at the bottom of those downpipes they will probably just install a spreader which will make it look even worse. At least around the corner they are hidden a little more. Like this http://www.theroofingprofessionalswests ... charge.jpg Stewie Re: Downpipes on front facade 5May 11, 2015 11:43 pm Is there a way to get around that problem if they go around the side? It's a feature wall, it's going to look stupid Our build thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=70984 Re: Downpipes on front facade 6May 12, 2015 12:22 am If they are shown on the side of the house then they should be put there. If they wanted to put them in a different location then they should have given you a PCV to sign. Simple! Re: Downpipes on front facade 7May 12, 2015 12:24 am Ours plans state 'downpipe locations up to the roof plumbers discretion' so I don't think saying that will work, however I am going to push it Our build thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=70984 Re: Downpipes on front facade 8May 12, 2015 3:41 pm Bump - anyone else? Our build thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=70984 Re: Downpipes on front facade 9May 12, 2015 6:02 pm archetto Ours plans state 'downpipe locations up to the roof plumbers discretion' so I don't think saying that will work, however I am going to push it In that case you may not have any luck unfortunately. I built a house once with a 200x200 feature post of Kwila out of about 15m of front where do u think they ran the pipe? Yup down that post! Only way I got it moved was becaus on plan it was over to the left more so they had to move it as you signed plan and no unauthorised amendments can be made. But in your case of they have a caveat specifically for this on the plan you signed you're prob out of luck Re: Downpipes on front facade 10May 12, 2015 6:16 pm Hmm we'll i've sent an email about it and how unhappy we are with the placement so fingers crossed! Our build thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=70984 Re: Downpipes on front facade 11May 12, 2015 7:12 pm We have taken ours to fair trading, submitted a formal complaint because they just don't want to play nice so they've given us little option. I would take it further if I was you, as the facade is an important feature of any home and I'm certain if the down pipes were on your plans you would have said something from the get go. Good luck!! Re: Downpipes on front facade 12May 12, 2015 8:57 pm The first thing I said when we got our final plans was how happy I was there was no downpipes on the front of our house! Now we have 3 (one downstairs as well but more fussed about these 2). I will seek further advise if they continue to say no. Our build thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=70984 Re: Downpipes on front facade 13May 13, 2015 1:32 pm just been thinking about this.. and i remembered i have seen where they use a chain instead of a down pipe, i havent seen this on a 2 story but looks ok on single? Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af187/Kaytee50/Misc%20Photos/IMG_7234.jpg Re: Downpipes on front facade 14May 13, 2015 8:50 pm I don't think that would work on a top floor, cool idea tho! Management are discussing our issue so fingers crossed it's a positive outcome! Our build thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=70984 Re: Downpipes on front facade 15May 14, 2015 11:56 am For both design and aesthetics, the RHS downpipe is best located further back near the upper valley and a downpipe fitted to the lower garage roof LHS to drain the concentrated flow. The upper and lower roof areas high points would most probably be at both RH corners. The LHS downpipe would have been best placed around the LH corner as shown on the plan. Fitting the downpipe further back near the upper valley would not be aesthetically wise due to the window. The gutter high point would remain as is in the centre of the facade. The upper RHS downpipe serves a larger roof area than the LHS downpipe and much of the water would currently need to drain around two corners...not the best design. The house construction indicates that it is in WA. It would be interesting to check the compliance for the combined roof areas served by the lower RHS downpipe and where they intend fitting that downpipe. The LHS of the garage is the best design option but best practice is often ignored on new homes. The problem the builder has with relocating the current downpipe locations is the gutter low points currently being at the front, any alteration to the downpipe positions also necessitates altering the gutter slopes. As is, if the RHS gutter high point is at the RHS far corner, then the upper RHS downpipe has a long run of gutter around two corners on its RHS but only a two metre length of gutter draining to it from the LHS. Long gutter runs minimise the gutter slope. Aesthetically and design wise, the current downpipe placements are not best practice. 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Downpipes on front facade 16May 14, 2015 1:34 pm Thanks for all of your advise SaveH20, to be honest that all just flew over my head however I am sure it will make more sense to my partner and we will use this to address the builder once we know their response, thank you! Yes WA Our build thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=70984 Re: Downpipes on front facade 17May 14, 2015 2:57 pm The builders should also realize that people will be looking at this build and wondering why the builder would place downpipes down the front! Hope they come up with a satisfactory solution for you archetto...definitely downpipes down the front facade would not be cool. Our Build Thread: The "Extended" Marina by Visionone Homes Our Inspirations: Frank Lloyd Wright | Houzz Re: Downpipes on front facade 18May 15, 2015 12:02 am archetto we will use this to address the builder once we know their response, Good luck. Unfortunately, the installation is almost certainly compliant with the BCA but compliance doesn't guarantee good design. Your argument is one of aesthetics and original design, you can only appeal to your builder's social conscience. I mentioned the RHS lower downpipe being best located on the left side of the garage so it is near the upper roof's diverted flow of concentrated water as it enters the lower gutter if the upper RHS downpipe is moved back around the corner. The link below is to a post with a photo and a few questions that are answered in the following two posts where I explain best practice...that is often ignored on new homes. viewtopic.php?p=1289026#p1289026 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Downpipes on front facade 19May 15, 2015 12:13 am Thanks for your help SaveH20, I will let you know how we go. They may have put them where it suits best but I can imagine that roof plumber had it been his own home, would have come up with a solution not to put them on the front facade let alone on a feature wall. Hootie I totally agree Our build thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=70984 Re: Downpipes on front facade 20May 25, 2015 1:43 pm Unfortunately the response was what I suspected so I've requested a site meeting with a construction manager, hopefully we can come up with a solution after this as I am not backing down, because this.... http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b96/tarzncobalt/mockup_zpsqjrjt7qv.jpg Looks awful! (I have drawn the downpipes on using paint, to show how it will look if they are put there) Our build thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=70984 Devkop The good news it is super easy to fix. Just get your plumber to divert it to the other side of the window. 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