Browse Forums General Discussion 1 Oct 13, 2014 1:21 pm My brother is a plasterer in the UK and is currently over here on holiday and has offered to skim coat my ceilings for me. As the room is almost 10m long, there are a lot of butt joints as couldn't use long sheets to reduce the butt joints due to entry to the room. He's told me that I'd get a far better finish with skimming than just taping and filling. He normally uses Thistle Multi-Finish which is a gypsum finish plaster which doesn't need sanding after troweling as is perfectly smooth. http://www.british-gypsum.com/~/media/F ... Finish.pdf What is the equivalent over here as people I have spoken to have no idea about skimming. Doesn't seem to be very common. Thanks for your help. Re: Plaster skimming walls? 2Oct 13, 2014 3:31 pm If you do a good job of the joins there is no need to skim coat the whole wall/ceiling. It does seem to be a lot more common over there than here. A good plasterer should be able to do an excellent job and even if you painted the ceiling with semi-gloss you shouldn't see any joins or patches at all. Stewie Re: Plaster skimming walls? 4Oct 13, 2014 9:49 pm If you contact your board manufacturer they will direct you on what product to use. As stewie says it isn't commonly done over here, but it is an option for level 5 finishes so all the manufacturers have products available. They may not be exactly the same as what your brother is used to using back in the UK but the principals will be the same. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Plaster skimming walls? 5Oct 14, 2014 12:20 pm I spoke with Gyprock and they too could only talk about a level 5 finish. For this you need perfectly flat walls before spraying the top coat on, which then needs to be sanded as can't be polished. e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzTD6FKJKOc I really never thought there'd be such big differences in how it's done. Re: Plaster skimming walls? 6Dec 06, 2014 3:28 pm Probably to late now but a mate of mine is now importing multi finish and other uk plastering products to use on his own jobs , a lot of the people he has carried work out for cant believe in the quality of finish he can get, he is 40 min from northern beaches Re: Plaster skimming walls? 8Dec 07, 2014 12:35 pm You are referring to a level 5 finish which over here is more commonly seen on the underside of suspended slabs of double storey homes. This can be a troweled, rolled or sprayed plaster finish and involves skimming the whole ceiling to create a uniform texture and fully conceal all joints or imperfections. [Edit: Advertising links removed by moderator] Re: Plaster skimming walls? 9Dec 07, 2014 4:49 pm This is different to a level 5 finish. This is done with one application and is a polished finish no need to sand. @Tim - did you find out of your friend why the multi-finish isn't used out here? Re: Plaster skimming walls? 10Dec 07, 2014 6:47 pm I haven't spoke with him, from my understanding its just not done out here not sure if the raw materials are available to make it. I think you can get a much better finish with the multi finish which can be done in a one coat application instead of filling with base coats and letting dry then top coats then sanding, I have seen some really shocking finishes with white set and joints not filled correctly on gyprock , I will be going the multi finish route when I build my house next year Re: Plaster skimming walls? 11Dec 07, 2014 9:29 pm Sounds similar to what we refer to as superfine. Not many people are skilled enough to use it. Basically you apply it with a trowel and polish with a steel trowel negating the need for sanding. Most older ceiling fixers would be familiar with it but a lot of new trades would probably have never done it. [Edit: Advertising links removed by moderator] Plaster skimming walls? 12Sep 29, 2018 2:09 pm Has anyone in WA had the Gypsum Multifinish Plaster applied to their house? If so, did it cost more, what was the finish like, are you happy with it? I REALLY dislike the quality and finish of White Set. And it takes sooo long to properly dry out before ready for sealing and painting. Any help from anyone who have used Multifinish on walls? Re: Plaster skimming walls? 13Aug 21, 2019 9:03 pm Well, we did end up going ahead with the Multifinish interior plastering over the white set. Cost was approx $1600 extra. 390 sqm home with 31c & 34c ceilings. I think all up there was 750m2 of internal walls plastered. It came out really well, glad we did it. Very smooth, very strong, almost glass like finish. Was dry in about 3 days (You can tell when it changes colour). Currently painting it now and very happy with the outcome. Re: Plaster skimming walls? 14Aug 21, 2019 9:49 pm Planet Sun Well, we did end up going ahead with the Multifinish interior plastering over the white set. Cost was approx $1600 extra. 390 sqm home with 31c & 34c ceilings. I think all up there was 750m2 of internal walls plastered. It came out really well, glad we did it. Very smooth, very strong, almost glass like finish. Was dry in about 3 days (You can tell when it changes colour). Currently painting it now and very happy with the outcome. Glad it worked out well for you. Out of curiosity how did you go about finding the product and someone to apply it? Re: Plaster skimming walls? 15Aug 21, 2019 9:58 pm I just asked the builder to ask his plasterers if they could do it. We had to wait about 4 weeks for the british/Irish plastering guys to come available as I didn't want the aussie guys doing it... Re: Plaster skimming walls? 17Aug 21, 2019 10:29 pm It’s different to Boral’s hard plaster, that can only be applied to solid masonry/concrete surfaces. The multi finish can be applied to Gyprock. Looks like there are now several companies selling it over here. http://joeandsons.com.au/products/thist ... h-plaster/ Re: Plaster skimming walls? 18Aug 21, 2019 10:54 pm They all gypsum based products. Cornice cement, base coat 60, base coat 45 etc and can go over board, cement render, painted surfaces. The quantity of gypsum would vary slightly between products as would the particle size of the fillers. Multifinish made by British Gypsum Re: Plaster skimming walls? 19May 13, 2020 7:23 am I have just had my full 2 storey home skimmed in multifinish by a guy from the uk who now lives isouth of the river near Madurah. they trabelled up to Yanchep and stayed for the week to get it completed and to a very high standard as good as any i have seen in the UK. If anyone wants his number PM me and i will send it to you very good with the pricing and extreamly clean and tidy they left the site exactly as it was when they arrived with excellent advice and great to deal with. finished surface is perfect ready for painting. Re: Plaster skimming walls? 20May 13, 2020 7:48 am Thanks for the heads up No need to travel 100km to quote on a job any longer? (while locked down and geared up) Here are the 1st stage quants ( of 4 stages) on a multi U2 Sorry margins are tight I'm getting rates $12-15/m2, all up, no extras,etc? Please leave a PM if interested Cheers Chris Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Hi, Have used the Dulux 1 step, oil base on my walls(white set), out of can it’s already a more thinner product than a final coat paint Also in water base Water or… 3 5024 yeah i couldnt picture it issue either, but i could clearly picture what they were doing wrong haha 2 5295 Our 6m high Cathedral ceiling has 0 insulation, just plaster, wrap and tiles as far as I can tell. Wife likes the exposed beams, I hate the $600 per month heating bill,… 0 13478 |