Browse Forums General Discussion 1 Jul 15, 2014 9:03 pm What’s the point in data points? Searching for any info I see lots of people on forums saying “get lots” but not really explaining what they’re for, except listing things like TV, phone, game consoles, and lots of other things we don’t have and have never heard of. I’ve been told data pts are better than old fashioned phone lines because they do phone and data. But I don’t understand. We currently get internet via our phone line, so isn’t that phone and data in one? We use wireless internet for all our computers, which I prefer to being being tethered by a cable. We don’t have (or currently want) cable TV, game consoles or anything else that uses internet, so I can’t imagine why we’d need any data points (let alone 2 or more in every room), but I wonder if a part of our current set-up will be phased out in the future – like analogue TV was – creating the need for data cabling? Is there any reason we won’t be able to continue using the phone line-to-modem-to-wifi for internet in the future? Re: What’s the point in data points? 2Jul 15, 2014 9:35 pm I'm no expert at this stuff but basically data speeds are faster through cable than wifi and more and more devices make use of an internet connection so WiFi might need to get a lot better before people start considering data points as unnecessary. http://camdenbuild.blogspot.com.au/ by invite only please pm me Re: What’s the point in data points? 3Jul 15, 2014 10:30 pm As robbie55 says. Wifi is good for some things but for heavy downloading or pumping HD TV shows or movies from your computer/external hard drive/T-Box etc to your TV, cable is better. Wifi will only get better and one day we'll probably have a cable free house just not at the moment. Stewie Re: What’s the point in data points? 4Jul 15, 2014 10:37 pm Another reason is that not all appliances can use wifi. Some still relies on wired network or need to spend more to get wifi options. On the technical side, there or only certain number of channels available for use with wifi. As more and more people using wireless network, you bound to get disconnect sooner or later. Re: What’s the point in data points? 5Jul 16, 2014 2:04 pm We got data points for our game consoles, media streaming, TVs. If this is something you will never use, then no need to stress about it. If you are in an NBN area, you won't get a 'normal' phone line, you will get a data cable instead. Re: What’s the point in data points? 6Jul 17, 2014 3:58 pm Data points aren't needed by everyone today and if your not going to be selling, then maybe you don't need them. I have 30 points being installed and 2 in the roof and I wish I would have got more to be honest.. I have 3 computers (1 laptop, 1 desktop and 1 NAS) I have 3 TV's (all with either LAN ports or WDTV boxes I will have 2 phones I will have at least 1 blue ray player I will have one wireless access point in the roof (requires two points) I have 1 wii I would like to think Ill buy either an Xbox or playstation in the future My housemate has 1 laptop In the future I imagine more and more things will come with LAN capabilities, I also have enabled me to move the lounge room around and have the ports required for my equipment and to allow for a friend will bring around their laptop, so they can plug in etc.. I wish I would have installed more for some IP cameras. Re: What’s the point in data points? 8Jul 18, 2014 2:13 pm It was suggested to me the other day that I should install data points behind the fridge and near the washing machine as both will be 'net ready' in the future, in fact some fridges already are. In the end, if you do not want data points, just don't put them in. That said, I'd consider one near your main TV viewing area, going back to where your computers are. Owner Building at Jimboomba Woods in Logan City Qld. Blog : http://bandlnewhomebuild.blogspot.com H1 thread : viewtopic.php?f=38&t=68283 . Re: What’s the point in data points? 9Jul 19, 2014 8:05 am My sister isn't into techie stuff either, and for her house build, I recommended the following: data points wherever she wanted a TV, two in the study, one in master and one in the kitchen for phone points and to put the NBN devices/routers in a central location to maximise wifi coverage. Me, I -adore- my techie stuff and will have at least one point per room, sometimes more. But that's my thing. Land settled May '14. Building the PD Hoffman39: 5/11=site start, 13/11=slab pour, 26/11=frame complete, 10/12=roof on, 12/12=bricking started. Blog: http://jyndeira.net/blog/ Re: What’s the point in data points? 10Jul 19, 2014 4:15 pm Def one at tv points and depending on your house you might need some near where a desktop type computer might sit. Wireless doesn't always work in all areas of a house and for 2 storey places or those in WA with double brick walls and often steel frames doorways there can be a number of dead areas of a house where you need to add additional wifi repeaters if you don't have any data points. We have a mix of wifi and wired data points. One of the two points in our bedroom is a phone extension is actually wired into the network and partly uses the same data lan cabling. I'm glad we have it as we often find the hands free phone cuts out in our bedroom. We also added data points to main bedroom, lounge, living/family area and playroom only. Re: What’s the point in data points? 11Jul 19, 2014 7:49 pm Wired data point are far more secure to "war driving" hackers. Wifi has weaknesses and if your neighbour is a tech buff they can easily work out how to crack your passwords. At the end of the day I have wifi also but wired is the most secure connection. Re: What’s the point in data points? 12Jul 20, 2014 2:51 pm If you already have or will soon get NBN, then it makes sense getting data points. Wifi is too slow. It takes me about 20 seconds to download a full 1080p Youtube video. On wifi, it takes me 30 minutes over an NBN connection. When I watch netflix or foxtel, there is no such thing as "buffering" or "waiting" for a video to load, it's instantaneous. When I download a game using Steam it takes me about 3 hours on wifi, on a wired point NBN it takes me 6 minutes. When I have conversations over Skype to my parents who also have NBN, I can transfer them a whole collection of HD 1080p videos I shot in 10 minutes, on wifi via NBN, this takes 4-5 hours. When I download a music album on iTunes or via the internet, it takes about 60minutes via wifi, on a wired data point via NBN it took me 1 minute. If you're referring to Eufy homebase, then just put a switch between a datapoint and put the homebase elsewhere near another device in your home unless you want teh… 9 13825 Scientists have used random matrix theory to demonstrate theoretically that the neutrino mass hierarchy can be explained mathematically. When a substance is fragmented… 21 20624 Building Standards; Getting It Right! Hi All, We have a fall from road to garage front. But we cannot put a drain/grate because no discharge point put by the builder. Now they complain not enough space for… 0 9235 |