Browse Forums General Discussion 1 Jan 28, 2014 9:19 pm Hi Guys So moving into a new home soon and first time owner.. It is stud wall with plasterboard internals.. Never owned so don't know what might break and what to fix... total n00b do not have a single tool with me except a small mini screwdriver set (very small).. Will be building few flatpacks furniture.. and also Probably drill hole into stud to hang racks in garage etc? Or do other one off chores in home.. Was thinking of a cordless screwdriver for the above stuff or something else.. Did some read etc and got confused between impact driver / drill driver etc.. Then ppl started to suggest to get 18V instead of 10V and get impact driver instead of normal bosch screwdriver etc.. Got so confused!!! What all I might need? And if you can provide links from bunnings / masters etc that would be great? For startes, I am a member of Costco and they have Kawasaki EDS0305 http://www.powerbuilttools.co.nz/Kawasaki.htm Any ideas for a n00b will be great.. don't want to spend $500 stuff on professional tradie stuff.. but something for home future usage will be great.. Guess will need a hammer atleast need to take out the wardrobe they have installed as getting custom wardrobe done and they told me to remove existing shelves / door.. Thinking might need things like (which and what?) 1) Hammer 2) Stud finder 3) Cordless Screwdriver to build furniture 4) Cordless Screwdriver (?) to mount frames / panels on wall? 5) Something else?? Any help will be great.. Cheers Re: Tools for Home - Cordless Screwdriver etc.. Please recom 2Jan 29, 2014 7:24 am With electrical tools, don't buy cheap and nasty. These days quality tools are reasonably cheap and if you stick to the major brands you won't go wrong. Having said that I know a couple of guys who bought Ozito mitre saws and they are still going strong five years and a lot of work later. Hand tools are a bit different as a cheap hammer will still do the job of one ten times the price. It's more the skill of the guy hanging on to it that counts. I'd buy a decent cordless screwdriver - Panasonic, Milwaukee, Makita etc and for what you are doing you don't have to have an 18 Volt one either as these will cost you quite a bit more, a corded ( as in it plugs into 240v ) electrical drill that can be switched to drilling masonry and then pick up as you need them - decent set of screwdrivers - a level - a couple of handsaws - etc etc Garage sales or gumtree etc are good places to pick up hand tools secondhand. Stewie Re: Tools for Home - Cordless Screwdriver etc.. Please recom 3Jan 29, 2014 8:44 am Stewie D With electrical tools, don't buy cheap and nasty. These days quality tools are reasonably cheap and if you stick to the major brands you won't go wrong. Having said that I know a couple of guys who bought Ozito mitre saws and they are still going strong five years and a lot of work later. Hand tools are a bit different as a cheap hammer will still do the job of one ten times the price. It's more the skill of the guy hanging on to it that counts. I'd buy a decent cordless screwdriver - Panasonic, Milwaukee, Makita etc and for what you are doing you don't have to have an 18 Volt one either as these will cost you quite a bit more, a corded ( as in it plugs into 240v ) electrical drill that can be switched to drilling masonry and then pick up as you need them - decent set of screwdrivers - a level - a couple of handsaws - etc etc Garage sales or gumtree etc are good places to pick up hand tools secondhand. Stewie Thanks.. So should I go for a 1) Bosch Screwdriver http://www.bunnings.com.au/bosch-3-6v-l ... r_p6200344 2) And a impact drill? Or how is the Kawasaki drill I have mentioned on top? 3) Stud finder 4) Hammer Re: Tools for Home - Cordless Screwdriver etc.. Please recom 4Jan 29, 2014 9:18 am If you're looking at cordless, take a look at the Ryobi 18v series, unfortunately only available at Bunnings these days. They have quite a variety of different items that take the same batteries, which means as your collection grows, you'll start to buy a few extra batteries that will work in all of them, and they have a 6 stacker charge station, so you only need one powerpoint for 6 batteries. Whilst Ryobi isn't the king on the hill, I've been using them for years and have been very happy with them, and I don't treat them with kid gloves, and why should you? I have burnt out one drill whilst drilling 25mm holes in to fence posts... I kept the finger on the trigger whilst twisting the whole lot to cut the hole all the way through whilst the batteries were low. I've almost destroyed the old reciprocating saw by cutting down trees more than 150mm in diameter, and cutting below the dirt surface, whilst working it real hard. It's still going, but the dirt has got in to the mechanism so its not cutting straight anymore, and the blade guide has practically worn through. So as you can see, I give them a pretty hard time. Owner Building at Jimboomba Woods in Logan City Qld. Blog : http://bandlnewhomebuild.blogspot.com H1 thread : viewtopic.php?f=38&t=68283 . Re: Tools for Home - Cordless Screwdriver etc.. Please recom 5Jan 29, 2014 9:22 am Thanks guys So what is still needed ? 1) To build furniture - Cordless screwdriver or a cordless impact driver? 2) To make holes into stud walls and plasterboard - Cordless impact driver or cordless drill driver? 3) What V ? Re: Tools for Home - Cordless Screwdriver etc.. Please recom 6Jan 29, 2014 9:37 am Cordless impact drivers can turn off the impact function in nearly all cases. With whatever brand of cordless you buy, stick to the one brand as their batteries should be interchangeable between tools, so you won't need as many batteries. i.e. if you have two different drills that require different batteries, you really need to have 4 batteries (2 per drill), but if they share the same battery you can easily get by with 3 (1 in each, and the 3rd on charge). I hope I'm not starting to sound like a Ryobi Fanboi, but I guess I am in a way. I've been using them for years, and the range of extra 'toy's that take the same batteries is great. Owner Building at Jimboomba Woods in Logan City Qld. Blog : http://bandlnewhomebuild.blogspot.com H1 thread : viewtopic.php?f=38&t=68283 . Re: Tools for Home - Cordless Screwdriver etc.. Please recom 7Jan 29, 2014 9:39 am Thanks Understand why its best to go with one brand.. But still for my use.. I need an impact drill? or a driver drill? or a combo? I am yet to understand the difference between the two and what I can use for building furnitures and to drill holes into stud wall if needed to hang racks? Also what V is recommended?? I am not a professional.. just need to keep something in the house just in case if needed.. and since moving.. first few weeks will be a lot of building furniture so need it in that ways.. Ta Re: Tools for Home - Cordless Screwdriver etc.. Please recom 8Jan 29, 2014 9:52 am Your usual cordless screwdriver can be used as a screwdriver and for drilling into wood. An impact driver is like a drill but with a hammering action at the same time so for drilling into masonry you are drilling but the hammering action ( like a mini jackhammer effect ) chips away at the brick at the same time that you are drilling the hole. For what you'll be doing a 10V screwdriver drill will be fine. I'd still have a separate impact drill though for when you inevitably want to to drill into masonry. Take a look here for a few more descriptions... http://www.thewoodwhisperer.com/article ... t-drivers/ Stewie Re: Tools for Home - Cordless Screwdriver etc.. Please recom 10Jan 29, 2014 10:01 am Get a screwdriver with a posidrive head for assembling flat pack. They should be used for IKEA assembly but noone tells you that...... Re: Tools for Home - Cordless Screwdriver etc.. Please recom 11Jan 29, 2014 10:26 am Just take a trip down to Bunnings and just ask them. We have got every tool available in the Ryobi one range. So handy, great warranty, great tools and biggest bonus is that they all share the same batteries. I use the cordless impact driver for all my flat pack building needs. http://www.ryobi.com.au/Products/ONEplu ... ols/Drills Also buy the hex key attachments Forrester 43sq We have our keys (3/6/11) Now it's time to decorate (that's the fun part.lol) https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=37598 Re: Tools for Home - Cordless Screwdriver etc.. Please recom 12Jan 29, 2014 10:29 am Thanks guys.. but atleast someone can tell me what is needed (impact drill / driver drill / kawasaki one mentioned on top).. or the difference what they can do I am planning to goto bunning one day.. but should have a more clearer idea myself atleast so that the bunnings guy is not irritated Re: Tools for Home - Cordless Screwdriver etc.. Please recom 14Jan 29, 2014 10:40 am It depends on what you are doing.... I would also go to a specialist tool shop as the servers are more likely to be seasoned tradesman (retired) and experienced handimen. At least they are in the one I frequent. They can give you the steer... Bunnings is good for a lot of things but many brands are house brands in there and depending on the level of accuracy needed it may be wiser to spend a little more on the tool since you will have it for a long time. That said Bunnings should be able to help with corderless drill/ driver. Impact drivers can be switched from normal to impact as far as i know. Most drivers have a clutch trigger to regulate speed. You may be stressing and over thinking this one to be honest. Re: Tools for Home - Cordless Screwdriver etc.. Please recom 15Jan 29, 2014 10:42 am Well think long term. If you only ever need put things together like flat packs with it and only need the screwdriver alone - Go with something like this. http://www.bunnings.com.au/ryobi-4v-li- ... r_p6210120 If you'd do a little more work like above plus drilling holes etc with drill pieces - maybe something like this - http://www.bunnings.com.au/ryobi-18v-co ... t_p6210436 If you'd do all of the above plus the harder work like drill small light holes into masonary etc - http://www.bunnings.com.au/ryobi-one-18 ... -_p6210438 The bonus with Ryobi one cordless tools that even their whipper sniper and other garden tools run all on the same batteries. We even have the fan, radios and lights. Forrester 43sq We have our keys (3/6/11) Now it's time to decorate (that's the fun part.lol) https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=37598 Re: Tools for Home - Cordless Screwdriver etc.. Please recom 16Jan 29, 2014 10:47 am Rudolf1980 Well think long term. If you only ever need put things together like flat packs with it and only need the screwdriver alone - Go with something like this. http://www.bunnings.com.au/ryobi-4v-li- ... r_p6210120 If you'd do a little more work like above plus drilling holes etc with drill pieces - maybe something like this - http://www.bunnings.com.au/ryobi-18v-co ... t_p6210436 If you'd do all of the above plus the harder work like drill small light holes into masonary etc - http://www.bunnings.com.au/ryobi-one-18 ... -_p6210438 The bonus with Ryobi one cordless tools that even their whipper sniper and other garden tools run all on the same batteries. We even have the fan, radios and lights. Excellent.. So best is Impact Drill to do all Then Drill Driver to just do stud walls and flat packs Then normal screwdriver just to do flat packs ? So buying impact drill (which can switch off impact) will suffice for me for some time? or combine that with a screwdriver? Cheers Re: Tools for Home - Cordless Screwdriver etc.. Please recom 17Jan 29, 2014 10:53 am My hubby is a tradie so that's why we have all the tools but for me at home he first bought me the screwdriver but now I only use his Impact driver as I can use it as a screwdriver, a drill, a hex key and has the power to back it up if needed. The impact side of it only comes in when the driver is under enough pressure that it is needed. bonus as its gentle enough for flat packs but powerful enough for screwing screws into timber. Mind you hubby had to go out and buy himself another one.lol Forrester 43sq We have our keys (3/6/11) Now it's time to decorate (that's the fun part.lol) https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=37598 Re: Tools for Home - Cordless Screwdriver etc.. Please recom 18Jan 29, 2014 11:11 am I haven't got the Ryobi impact drill myself, but if it's like the normal drill driver one, it'll have the different torque settings on the barrel, which you want to set down to the lowest setting for your furniture, then adjust upwards so you don't overtighten the screw. I think bunnings have a deal on the Ryobi kits which come with the drill driver, a multi-tool and a couple of batteries and charger for $199. If you don't need the impact drill right now, this might be a good starter for you. If you then buy the impact drill, you already have two batteries to put in to it, or the impact drill kit gives you another two batteries to keep you going at all times. Owner Building at Jimboomba Woods in Logan City Qld. Blog : http://bandlnewhomebuild.blogspot.com H1 thread : viewtopic.php?f=38&t=68283 . Re: Tools for Home - Cordless Screwdriver etc.. Please recom 19Jan 29, 2014 12:49 pm Thanks guys.. So I have learnt till now that 1) Get a 18V one 2) Get something with 2 battery pack 3) Get Li-ion and not Nicd.. 4) Battery 1.3ah will be fine (?) 5) get Impact drill to do everything (??) OR 5) Just get driver drill (??) 6) I will also need to buy bits kit right which has screwdriver and basic drill and masonry drill bits? Is there some in market which has allen key used to build ikea stuff among other flatpack builds? 7) Should not go very expensive as I am not a tradie and will probably use it once a year or so.. Re: Tools for Home - Cordless Screwdriver etc.. Please recom 20Jan 29, 2014 8:52 pm I think we all may have led you a bit astray here with a impact drill and talked about it as a hammer drill. A impact drill does the impacting as it rotates, picture a rattle gun at the motor racing or at the tyre shop. It's not what I think you should be looking at. A hammer drill basically hammers the masonry drill bit in to the concrete or brick, and that's something you might find a use for. The hammer mode can be turned off, so you can use the drill as a normal drill. My recommendation is just go for the plain drill/driver Ryobi 18v. Consider the current deal bunnings and Ryobi have going for the multi-tool with drill/driver, torch and batteries for $199. The multi-tool can be used for a lot of things, even cutting grout out from between tiles amongst plenty of other things. Owner Building at Jimboomba Woods in Logan City Qld. Blog : http://bandlnewhomebuild.blogspot.com H1 thread : viewtopic.php?f=38&t=68283 . No, I even have sections of narrowness where the tiles won't slide up any further. When I manage some spare time, I might play around with the first DIY part of my… 7 5112 We already paid for somfy motors for the blinds. The quote above was purely for “pre-wiring” so the blinds company can install the motors and blinds. 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