Browse Forums General Discussion Re: VOIP Vs Land Line Connections 21May 13, 2008 5:04 pm Arkraider, I think the network coverage map Matt is pointing to only applies to ADSL2+.
My understanding of the problem is that Telstra have to provide access to their infrastructure for ADSL1 but they don't have to provide the infrastructure for ADSL2, so each ISP has to have either their own equipment, or an agreement with another provider to use their equipment, in order to offer ADSL2. So you might be able to have ADSL1 through IINet, even though they don't have equipment at your exchange, but you wouldn't be able to get ADSL2 from them. Received keys to my new home on 16/5/08 Re: VOIP Vs Land Line Connections 22May 13, 2008 5:24 pm Colleen Arkraider, I think the network coverage map Matt is pointing to only applies to ADSL2+. Oh..... Gav & Vanessa Building In Melbourne (Sth East Suburbs) http://www.arkraider.blogspot.com/ Rawdon Hill Construction - Canterbury Heritage Re: VOIP Vs Land Line Connections 23May 13, 2008 6:10 pm I'm confused....
(and i don't like that!!!! - LOL) I've just spent an hour on the phone to Telstra to connect the phone - directly with them- initially. They are coming out this Sat to connect us - OMG!!!! Which is great, and the number is totally different to that of our new neighbour who is 3 doors down???? Wierd....anyway, she also said that with our new number we will have ADSL AND ADSL2+!!! Hey i'm not complaining!! As long as it's true??? And i'm still waiting for the call back from Vision Stream!!!!! Grrrr *sigh* Watch this space..... Re: VOIP Vs Land Line Connections 24May 13, 2008 6:26 pm Now go to the adsl2exchanges link I put on the first page, put in your new number and see who you can get ADSL2 from. From what I've been told though, Bigpond can always provide ADSL2, if you're willing to pay a lot for it, as long as you have a Telstra line. I could probably go that way with my internet but Bigpond charge double what it would cost me to get a download limit twice the size that they offer, and I can't justify that. Received keys to my new home on 16/5/08 Re: VOIP Vs Land Line Connections 25May 13, 2008 6:48 pm And if it says that Telstra Wholesale only, that's not that good hey?
It's either that or std ADSL for us then? Hmmmm so much for my VOIP plan with iinet!!! Back to shopping around - can someone tell me why ADSL is more expensive than ADSL2??? When it's slower???!!! Re: VOIP Vs Land Line Connections 26May 13, 2008 7:49 pm **Phoenix** Back to shopping around - can someone tell me why ADSL is more expensive than ADSL2??? When it's slower???!!! If you can find out the answer to that one, please let me know. You can still get VOIP, and you can probably still get it with iinet if you want to, just select them for your ADSL as well. Otherwise, there are quite a few standalone voip providers, such as: http://www.mynetfone.com.au http://www.pennytel.com/ http://www.gotalk.com.au And quite a few ISPs offer phone deals now as well. You might also be able to find an ADSL2+ provider who uses Telstra equipment. I haven't found one yet but then I'm only looking at the providers I've heard of and have a fairly decent reputation. Or you could sign up with Bigpond Received keys to my new home on 16/5/08 Re: VOIP Vs Land Line Connections 27May 13, 2008 7:56 pm Colleen **Phoenix** Back to shopping around - can someone tell me why ADSL is more expensive than ADSL2??? When it's slower???!!! If you can find out the answer to that one, please let me know. You can still get VOIP, and you can probably still get it with iinet if you want to, just select them for your ADSL as well. Otherwise, there are quite a few standalone voip providers, such as: http://www.mynetfone.com.au http://www.pennytel.com/ http://www.gotalk.com.au And quite a few ISPs offer phone deals now as well. You might also be able to find an ADSL2+ provider who uses Telstra equipment. I haven't found one yet but then I'm only looking at the providers I've heard of and have a fairly decent reputation. Or you could sign up with Bigpond No i don't think i will be going with Bigpond....after looking at their plans - ouch!!!! But if i go with one of the above providers for VOIP, i still need to keep paying my line rental don't i??? Why don't they make it easier??? Any recommendations for providers - ANYONE???? Checked out dodo, iinet, bigpond, and the list keeps growing.... Re: VOIP Vs Land Line Connections 28May 13, 2008 8:38 pm thats why I am on the plan I am on !
Stoopid ADSL providers! Good luck P.... this is why we ditched iinet Re: VOIP Vs Land Line Connections 29May 13, 2008 8:47 pm Yeah you'll still need to pay your line rental, but you could just get the Telstra budget plan that is $19.95 a month. It would still be better if you could get naked adsl and tell Telstra where to go but you might just have to wait on that one.
If you really want to make your head spin, go to http://bc.whirlpool.net.au/bc/?action=search and do a search of internet plans. Try to refine your search as much as possible though as you'll get a lot of results. When you get to the results screen, you can sort by cost, download limit, speed, set up cost, etc. Received keys to my new home on 16/5/08 Re: VOIP Vs Land Line Connections 30May 14, 2008 10:19 am Someone may have mentioned this as i didnt read all the posts but you may want to look into engin www.engin.com.au I havent used them yet so unsure if they are any good but you could find that out on whirlpool.net.au Re: VOIP Vs Land Line Connections 31May 17, 2008 11:45 am There is lots to research and learn ( at lease for me on this).
just saw an Optus TV ad for ADSL2 ( 2 Gig) with unlimited local and national calls and free calls to optus mobiles. This for $79.95. How does this compare with having just the internet connection and VOIP. Anyone on current plans? pls let me know what are the savings? Thanks Raz If you think you can, you can. Re: VOIP Vs Land Line Connections 32May 17, 2008 1:35 pm Like colleen I also use voip, also with mynetphone and I'm on adsl1 . we just got our latest telstra phone bill. rental of $19.~ calls $6 kids had rung us on the mobile twice and had forgotten to use the voip phone. With adsl1 you can vary the quality of the call slightly and you are supposed to make sure you leave a certain amount of bandwith for the calls so the quality is good. And they also suggest port forwarding if you ahve a problem. I've not done any of that and we've had maybe 2-3 separate occasions when calls have been bad since jan when we got voip. We run 3 comps most of the time on the cabled network and also mine which uses a wireless connection.
We just make sure no one is downloading errm updates or anything when we are planning on making a call. The whirlpool site is fabulous for information on lots of aspects of broadband including isps', voip, etc etc Re: VOIP Vs Land Line Connections 34May 18, 2008 11:35 am HI Raz I have a budget home line and it's 19 dollars something... as long as you have adsl1 on tesltra equipment you can have your adsl with anyone not just telstra. but go adsl2 and if it's not a bigpond account it is not supposed to be done. its one of the rules telstra have put in place to stop you gettting the cheaper rental. from what I've read at whirlpool telstra phone line people are not allowed to refuse you the home budget line even if you have your internet with someone else. technically the 2 are not related ( telstra wholesale sell the line to other isp's for internet) you do not have to disclose who your internet is with to telstra ( the phone section) even if they ask and they are not allowed to look it up.
No i am not with telstra for my net. I only have adsl1 , its all my exchange has. Re: VOIP Vs Land Line Connections 35May 24, 2008 12:02 am Hi
we're with engin. Just a voicebox and any phone you want. The v/b is connected to the router/modem and the computer doesnt have to be on. 15bux per month unlimited national landline calls and mobile calls about 20c per min. Can't go wrong. Very happy with them. The only way its worthwhile however is if you have a cable internet connection (which we have) or naked dsl which is not available everywhere yet. Engin reckons they're going to do naked dsl shortly. We'll see how we go when we move early next year where there is no cable. Re: VOIP Vs Land Line Connections 37May 24, 2008 9:59 am check mynetfone as well. we pay 10c a call anywhere in australia and 15c a min to mobiles. and i think its about 15c a min to countries overseas. but they have a multitude of plans some give cheaper over seas calls etc. This wasn't something we needed. also there are a variety of deals going. We purchased a cheap LOCKED voip ata for 10 bucks and got 10 dollars worth of credit. Couldn't lose on a deal like that. There was no min spend a month and ours does not auto top up. it warns me when credit is low and I can choose to top it up with $10 more or whatever amount i wish. But i could have it set to put in a set amount on a regular basis. You can also get UNLOCKED ata's which you might find more use so that you can chop and change between voip providers for different types of calls.
You might find this website and topic discussions useful http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-threads.cfm?f=107 Re: VOIP Vs Land Line Connections 38May 24, 2008 10:11 am I just got my monthly invoice from MyNetFone and it was the highest one I've had so far - $8.90 That was for 1017 minutes of talking on the phone to people that would be an STD call if I used Telstra.
I put $50 in my account when I opened it last May and I still have $14 of that money left. I love VOIP Received keys to my new home on 16/5/08 Re: VOIP Vs Land Line Connections 39May 26, 2008 4:39 pm Hi Raz
Set up costs are minimal. Its all laid on on the website. Go the 3102 vb as you can use it with your own phones. The other vb can only be used with their phone (which isn't that great). Its free with a 12-month contract or $129 standalone. That's another thing I forgot to mention before, you don't have to lock yourself in for a contract, but @ $15 per month what's the most you're going to have to pay out on a 12 month contract? It's worth it to get the VB for free. Good luck Em Re: VOIP Vs Land Line Connections 40May 26, 2008 10:24 pm Hi kexkez, Colleen, Mel and Em,
Thanks so much for all the info. I keep saying this website is one of th ebst things that has happened to me. Couldnt have researched all this infor in a lifetime. Thanks you again. VOIP here I come.!!! Raz If you think you can, you can. Building Standards; Getting It Right! It's all good. You can get both wye piece and the coupling with or without thread. The cost difference is negligible and means the plumber only has to carry the single… 1 4897 4 10817 Hi everyone, Looking for some advise. We are about to build an above ground pool in our backyard. There is a private sewer line running under the pool at 1.6m… 0 11731 |