Browse Forums General Discussion 1 Jul 23, 2013 4:24 pm Hello, I am new to this forum and if possible would like to gather some collective thoughts. In short, my wife and I have realised that Simonds have not as per our contract, installed an external vent for our kitchen rangehood of which we paid approx $269 for (basically the air pumped through the kitchen rangehood is sent outside rather than into our roof cavity, currently it just goes into our roof cavity). Final sign off was provided and handover done in approx August 2011 and we have only realised now as I needed to climb into the roof due to some pesky mouse. Given that handover was close to two years ago, are Simonds still liable to install the external vent for our rangehood? Prior to final sign off there were a few minor things we organised Simonds to fix which were eventually fixed, and we paid for an independent building assessor to check the building and he gave it his seal of approval. As such, we signed off on it and handover was complete. Thanks in advance Re: Kitchen rangehood external vent not installed 3Jul 23, 2013 9:17 pm If you didn't get what you paid for and you have the paperwork to prove it then go for it, but I suspect you'll need to be a squeaky wheel as JB1 said. You also paid the independent building assessor to pick up details like that so surely he contributes some responsibility? Re: Kitchen rangehood external vent not installed 4Jul 24, 2013 8:54 am Wow that's a real biggie for your building assessor to miss. All that moisture pumping into the attic is not good. I'd hope this was just accidentally overlooked, probably due to the kitchen installers thinking the plumber or hvac guy were the ones to connect it up, or one of the other trades thinking someone else was doing it. And that is how I would approach the builder, rather than going in guns blazing and getting his back up. In the end it should have been his responsibility to have checked this off the list and he failed. Re: Kitchen rangehood external vent not installed 5Jul 25, 2013 9:31 am Demand to have it rectified immediately, don't take any crap. After third call threaten to take them to the regulating body, Re: Kitchen rangehood external vent not installed 6Jul 27, 2013 10:51 am In NSW at least for the last fifteen or so years , it has been illegal to terminate a ducted rangehood from the kitchen into the ceiling cavity. It has to be vented to the outside - through the roof , walls , eaves etc. This was after a run of house fires where the buildup of fat and oils coating rafters caught fire and seriously damaged homes. Stewie Re: Kitchen rangehood external vent not installed 7Jul 27, 2013 12:46 pm Stewie how fascinating! It's still fairly standard here in QLD to duct into the celing cavity which amazes me after what you just wrote. Our builder is charging several hundred dollars for us to duct externally. Bummer but we'll pay it. Build thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=65085 Re: Kitchen rangehood external vent not installed 8Jul 27, 2013 4:39 pm Hi everyone, Thanks for all your comments. I will check with a regulatory body /consumer affairs before contacting Simonds as I am sure they will try everything under the sun so that they do not need to instal the external vent. Regards, Brandon2013 Re: Kitchen rangehood external vent not installed 9Jul 31, 2013 3:12 pm FYI Just spoke to Consumer Affairs and they advised as the external vent is listed in my contract and we paid for it and Simonds did not install the vent, though we already signed off on handover 2 years ago, it is not relevant. We have up to 10 years on new homes to organise the builder to fix items not carried out in our contract. So I will contact Simonds and see how we go! Re: Kitchen rangehood external vent not installed 10Jul 31, 2013 3:23 pm Awesome! Good luck! Meanwhile we just got the quote back from our builder - $600 to externally vent the rangehood!! WTF! So I guess we won't be! Smelly roof cavity it shall be... Build thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=65085 Re: Kitchen rangehood external vent not installed 11Jul 31, 2013 3:26 pm Post back here to let us know how you get on with them although I personally think they will try anything to wriggle out of this one. As they say watch this space..... stewie Re: Kitchen rangehood external vent not installed 12Aug 01, 2013 12:07 am EmyN Meanwhile we just got the quote back from our builder - $600 to externally vent the rangehood!! WTF! So I guess we won't be! Smelly roof cavity it shall be... It isn't compulsory in your region? Re: Kitchen rangehood external vent not installed 13Aug 01, 2013 9:13 am Nope. QLD. Although I've been thinking, surely the bigger problem is the vents above the shower? They have absolute bucketloads of steam every night. Surely that would cause more mould problems than the rangehood.... Anyway, we don't even know if our last house was ceiling ducted or not, couldn't tell any difference. So we won't be paying to get it done. Build thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=65085 Re: Kitchen rangehood external vent not installed 14Aug 01, 2013 9:22 am It's not mould that is the problem but grease and fat Long term, you should vent both the rangehood and bathroom fan. It will affect your insulation, worst case- timber trusses. At the very least put a whirlybird to get some airflow. Re: Kitchen rangehood external vent not installed 15Aug 01, 2013 10:57 am Mirvac are charging us $900 to externally duct our rangehood. But this is to externally duct rather than just have a recirculating rangehood... So it includes having a bulkhead between the top of the cupboards and ceiling to house the ducting, where as standard it wouldn't be there. I'll be climbing into the ceiling myself to make sure it gets done. But I don't mind paying for it, I think its pretty important. especially since my wife cooks heaps. The ducting of the bathroom fans was included as standard. Re: Kitchen rangehood external vent not installed 16Aug 01, 2013 4:11 pm BCA allows bathroom fans to discharge to ceiling cavity provided the ceiling space has open eaves, roof vents, or tiles without sarking. This is probably applicable to kitchen hoods too, not sure though. Re: Kitchen rangehood external vent not installed 17Aug 01, 2013 4:26 pm Yeah , you can discharge waste air from a bathroom to the ceiling cavity but why would you ? All that moisture in the air from one or two people condensing on your roof frame and ceiling would most certainly lead to mould problems even with roof or eaves vents. Not many homes built these days would have roofs without sarking or anticon either. Open eaves or any other ceiling vent system is another matter - anything to get air flow in there. Stewie Re: Kitchen rangehood external vent not installed 18Aug 01, 2013 4:30 pm I personally wouldn't, was just posting the BCA requirement for the people suggesting it may be compulsory. Though in the OP's case it shouldn't come to that, they paid for an external vent connection, they should get one. Re: Kitchen rangehood external vent not installed 19Aug 01, 2013 10:44 pm I'm not having a go at you, I'm just pointing out the reasons why not to and I agree with you - if they've paid for it then they should have got it. Stewie Re: Kitchen rangehood external vent not installed 20Aug 02, 2013 11:00 pm Stewie D Post back here to let us know how you get on with them although I personally think they will try anything to wriggle out of this one. As they say watch this space..... stewie Cheers Stewie, will do. I called Simonds on Thursday just gone and a lady is going to call me back on Monday to organise someone to have a look at our property, fingers crossed they do it. 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