Browse Forums General Discussion Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 961Jul 19, 2020 10:49 pm 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 965Jul 19, 2020 11:48 pm 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 966Jul 20, 2020 12:12 am 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 968Jul 20, 2020 9:14 am 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 972Jul 20, 2020 8:23 pm SaveH2O Mauromario Do you know mark croft legal ex builder turned lawyer. Were you asking me? I had never heard of him before your posts but I will be reading up tomorrow. There are numerous accounts of dissatisfaction with lawyers on H1 and hearing your recommendation and some background has been very good. He sounds like a godsend. It is unfathomable how after the mass of slab heaves several years ago and the widespread resultant publicity that some builders still don't attend to or care about site drainage. Re your comment about paving having to be installed by the builder, my understanding is that the site has to have a cut (not filled) slope during construction and be handed over with the ground sloped away from the slab. Where have you read to the contrary? No your correct the land must be sloped away from footing, not built up with soil where it can wash away anyway it has to be scraped to fall away from the which never happend to we where left in mud 2 feet deep i had my concern about it i complained to site manager he did nothing about in 2010 the drought broke we had rain every day i tought to myself dam has not rained i 18 years now i am building it rains every day, but the build continued with no downpipes connected it was a mess lucky i was concerned enough to take photos something told me i was going to have problems, growing up as a italian born in italy as well,i did lots of concrete with my dad so not new to concrete. Lucky i took all those photos during construction even after site manager tried to stop me from entering next day i went i showed up with a bat, that was the end of himstopping me from going everyday. It sounds like builders are taking more chances in cutting corners and sending stand over goons to get people to sign final stage payments thats discasting when i was told i told these familys if it happens again to call me ill show up with a bat again, today builders are getting away with murder and home owners are paying a bad price. I hope to get my information out once my house is completed with no problems layer on, they are not get off just like that. Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 973Jul 21, 2020 7:15 pm building-expert Just an update from my post in 2014, where I found and reported a severely dished slab on a house in Wyndham Vale. It seems my client sold the property. New purchaser has just now found out he has a problem. When I asked whether they got pre purchase inspection the answer was yes, by a franchised inspector who did not pick up on severely dished slab. This is the second time I came across franchised inspectors missing an elephant in the room. On a pre purchase inspection in Eltham they missed 50mm floor subsidence at rear of the house. Our pre-purchase inspector missed an edge heave of 46mm. He was (is) utterly useless. Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 975Jul 21, 2020 11:21 pm Hi. Insider me and you have little history even though we have not met in person, we built in portarlington in 2010 at the height of the drought then it broke, it rained every day the great ocean road collapsed under all the water, we where going to hire Domenic Lopes but our lawyer back then knocked us back as we wanted a second opinion on our soil test which I believe was never done and I can prove it. At the time our lawyer knocked back all our recommendation we put to him but I was in the middle chating with Domenic when I told Domenic about this lawyer he told me get reed of him, then come back and talk to me, I believe it was going to be you and Domenic doing soil test back in 2017 or may be 2018 since then we parted ways with that lawyer and found Mark Croft legal he took our case on and won at our compolsative conference vcat at the end of 2019 he is Ex builder turned lawyer we got blessed to find him . But I held great respect for you and Domenic Lopes and I refer everyone who needs to do a soil test to call Domenic Lopes. But you gave me hope explained to me so much and now I pass that information on to others. We are in the process of having our house underpinned and drainage system around our house designed by Buratt engineering he seems to be of good knowledge but also friends with our lawyer but the builder is doing all the underpinning, do I trust them bloody not, but I made it clear we must have this inspected by Buratt engineering before any holes are filled with concrete I am sure you remember who the builder was, and who did the soil test you said there is only 2 geotechnical engineers that do all volume builders you gave me 2 names and I replied yes to the first name, but also they lost against us as well. Our house heaved by 87mm inside and 67mm outside of bricks over 12.5 metres. And the top of roof trusses have disconnected from each other living a gap of 50mm with these roof disigns you cannot get into the roof but am sure it's like that all over, got mould on garage plaster as well, the black polyurethane plastic was left uncut against the fence between the garage and fence so the rain hits that wall runs down and under the slab, what I don't understand is do builders use waffle pods under a garage floor. Would you know if they use waffle under garage floors. Thank you in advance. Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 977Jul 22, 2020 11:28 am Thanks insider your a true champ. Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 978Aug 16, 2020 6:57 am Mauromario Thanks insider your a true champ. Great success story! Do you have detailed diary on how you went about this lengthy process? I would be interested for future reference . I am a recipient of a newly built home that has a substandard slab put in. All my neighbours on our street got a P rating while I have h2. I requested for an upgrade but was denied during pre construction. They were saying it should be fine. My slab does not have pier along the width of the house and I really worry about our slab heaving in the future. Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 979Aug 16, 2020 10:43 am Hi john0322 Depending on what you need to know please PM and we can chat in private I know builders lawyers are on this forum and I'd rather keep this private. To all builders or lawyers that work on behalf of builders get off these forums I know who you are. Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 980Oct 04, 2020 7:12 am Reading on this post. LIH wanted to charge me 15k extra in drainage for waffle pod, 15k in traffic management, 8k in cranage. They gave promotion for waffle pod charging higher base price (370k in lieu of 330k for similar size and inclusion compared to other builder). Overall 500k at contract for 43 square home after tender and color. All in all, waffle pod ended up being more expensive than raft slab. So I walked away. Waffle pod is popular because it makes total build cost cheap for builder. Many builders now don't do raft slab. Waffle pod is not cheap for owner when you take in to account the cost of maintaining it and the risk of your house falling apart. Foundation is part of the house that you can not replaced once the build is up. So I run away from large project home builder for a custom home. insider Adam.M qebtel Not that I am querying Adam.M's authenticity, but it would seem if this is true, that one should just do a raft slab whenever on a H soil? But I am aware that plenty of waffle pods are going down on is H+ sites, even when they are on the low side of the road, and beneath the level of the road. Why is this? Just cost? Wow this is digging up an old post! First of all I am not a structural engineer. My knowledge only goes as far as reading through AS2870, researching and talking to actual structural engineers. From my search, I have heard many different view points. From what I have gathered is this:
- The reality is, it doesn't take much to incorrectly install a waffle pod - A raft slab is much more forgiving - A raft slab takes a few more days and many $1,000's extra - Consumers want a cheaper deal and builders give them what they want! If you read AS2870 in it's entirety and the CSIRO's guide on slab maintenance, you will see that not many houses comply. Eg. next doors house that sits 400mm under my house's level, built using a waffle pod with no fall what so ever. All in all, not everyone will agree with my statement. But as I said, I have heard engineers on both sides and it seems they can't even make up their own minds! I agree with you Adam.m I think it will be sorted out in court and the main arguments will be who is responsible for drainage . is it the builder ,did they follow the engineers drainage design ? is the engineers drainage design adequate , did it comply with AS2870 ? is it something the owner has done regarding drainage ? I my opinion builder and engineer will carry the responsibility and the builder taking the largest load. Hi All, we are starting to think of building with Masterpiece Builders in Victoria, has anyone had any feedback or experience with them 0 13588 Hi we are looking to talk to people who have built with them recently. We have signed mid range built contract but identified that a lot of things are not included.… 0 707 I work with owner, he/she is my man on the ground and I instruct them when to visit the site and take photos and I have other tools in the bag. 4 15265 |