Browse Forums General Discussion Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 924Jan 18, 2019 7:03 pm 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 926Jan 18, 2019 8:16 pm Mauromario It happen at C C which is composative conferance which means all cameras a d audio is turned off how convenient. This just seems extraordinary. I would certainly go to the Ombudsman about this. There seems to be a giant flaw in the VCAT proceedings that the builders have exploited. I can imagine your anger and frustration. What does your solicitor say? Surely he or she is partly responsible for not getting something in writing. What sort of a legal outcome is that? Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 927Jan 19, 2019 6:53 pm Hi. Liliana I've had to stop answering questions on forums because of how angry I have become I blame my solicitor because they should never excepted that the builder would do the right thing I am tired and so god dam angry the system had loopholes that only builders and there lawless lawyers no about it, I just don't get it how our solicitor and the member of vcat excepted what the builder told them and apparently the member is very hursh on builders, well I knew darn well it was to easy s...it I even knew it was another way for the builder to streatch us out more financially. Well I've had it with everyone right now I don't even care about defermation laws I'd li like to see Burbank try that on me they will be very surprised what I have install f our them, burbanks dirty laundry is about to come out for the world to see and read. Burbank has made a very very big big big mistake with us now we have it this information they were warned to late now. That's all for now but aim dam angry. Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 928Jan 19, 2019 10:30 pm Giving information to a newspaper will protect you and get a good spread of attention, newspapers love passionate people with juicy stories, this aproach has successfully worked for me over the years with numerous stories on many subjects printed, the vultures deserve everything coming their way. Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 929Jan 20, 2019 6:51 am Mauromario Hi. Liliana I've had to stop answering questions on forums because of how angry I have become I blame my solicitor because they should never excepted that the builder would do the right thing I am tired and so god dam angry the system had loopholes that only builders and there lawless lawyers no about it, I just don't get it how our solicitor and the member of vcat excepted what the builder told them and apparently the member is very hursh on builders, well I knew darn well it was to easy s...it I even knew it was another way for the builder to streatch us out more financially. Well I've had it with everyone right now I don't even care about defermation laws I'd li like to see Burbank try that on me they will be very surprised what I have install f our them, burbanks dirty laundry is about to come out for the world to see and read. Burbank has made a very very big big big mistake with us now we have it this information they were warned to late now. That's all for now but aim dam angry. Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 930Jan 21, 2019 9:47 am Something is very wrong with this. My experience with VCAT. Cc is that any agreement reached is documented and signed by both parties. Two day cooling off applies if parties are not legally represented otherwise that’s it. In the event of builder defaulting proceedings are reinstated and the cost of rectification awarded. Where is the loophole? Foremost Building Expert in Australia,assisting with building problems/disputes, building stage inspections,pre-contract review advice for peace of mind 200 blogs http://www.buildingexpert.net.au/blog Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 931Jun 09, 2019 9:59 pm Below is a link to my Homeone thread promoting a petition calling for a Royal Commission into the building industry. Please take a moment to head over, have a look and sign it. I think it is worthwhile expressing support for the Builders Collective who started the petition: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=95744&p=1847394#p1847394 Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 932Oct 09, 2019 1:44 pm Hi Everyone, I knew I wasn't alone and during my research on slab (waffle rafts) heaving, I stumbled on these conversations. I wonder if anyone has any comments on my slab that has heaved 130mm. I am based in melbourne. I have employeed an expert geotechnical engineer to investigate and the moisture content underneath the slab is very high. All because of a cracked pipe however my engineer stumbled on another issue and told me that the builders have not followed AS2870 as they built the slab (waffle raft) into a 'hole'. Unfortunately I have no legal rights to pursue the builder because the house is over 10 years old. This is my biggist investment and can't explain how I feel at the moment. Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 933Oct 18, 2019 3:33 am Thanks for the info SaveH20, since this has all happened to us we have learned far more than I ever wanted to know about plumbing and building codes, as I am sure everyone else experienced too Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 934Oct 18, 2019 9:58 pm Yes, it was tough, but I did it. https://www.cornellengineers.com.au/how-to-fix-slab-heave/ Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 935Oct 19, 2019 8:59 am Write reply... Alina Lim Thanks for the info SaveH20, since this has all happened to us we have learned far more than I ever wanted to know about plumbing and building codes, as I am sure everyone else experienced too Alina Lim Yes, it was tough, but I did it. https://www.cornellengineers.com.au/how-to-fix-slab-heave/ Hi Alina Sounds like you have had success with fixing slab heave. How out of level was your slab and what damage was it causing to your home. My home is 154mm out of level and every wall inside and out is affected. House is heaving, sinking and twisting. Cornell engineering - I read the link that Alina posted. Is it possible for my home? Will my house be ever level and how? From where I sit, it would be cheaper to KRB. Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 936Oct 19, 2019 10:48 pm My goodness,130mm,154mm, It's like the next shonk builder is trying to raise you,it would be good to know what percentage of waffle slabs get slab problems compared to Raft slabs,stumps, etc,from what we hear you would expect waffle slab to have more chance of problems as their almost under engineered, especially with these gigantic numbers,we need big changes in building practices and keeping interested parties away from built sites isn't helping, too much covered up. Feel very sorry for the unfortunate people who experience this dishonest and or lack of quality structural care. Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 937Oct 19, 2019 11:24 pm I have often wondered what would happen in the scenario where a builder didn't attend to site drainage (some are recidivists) and the new home owner had site moisture samples taken pre handover and the site was found to have high moisture levels in different areas next to the slab. Could that alter the site classification, arguably making a standard waffle slab under-engineered and thereby non compliant? A bit like buying a new car but driving away with retreads perhaps? 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 938Oct 20, 2019 10:18 am [quote="Joker":rfz7hl0f]My goodness,130mm,154mm, It's like the next shonk builder is trying to raise you,it would be good to know what percentage of waffle slabs get slab problems compared to Raft slabs,stumps, etc,from what we hear you would expect waffle slab to have more chance of problems as their almost under engineered, especially with these gigantic numbers,we need big changes in building practices and keeping interested parties away from built sites isn't helping, too much covered up. Feel very sorry for the unfortunate people who experience this dishonest and or lack of quality structural care. [/quote:rfz7hl0f] Joker, it's like they are raising the stakes. Problem is the builder and his mates get a slap of the hand from the regulatory bodies and then continue ruining dreams and lives. Changes are definitely needed, but who is listening? Not the government departments and ministers I have written to. They ignore it. They don't care. When the money is rolling in because of the need for more housing and incentives are being offered, that's all they care about. Insurance premiums are continuing to rise to pay for cowboys incompetence and lack of building practices against the codes and regulations. Maybe it's up to the insurance companies to push the government departments. Mitigation is the word that stands out here that appears to be forgotten about, just like the word 'integrity'. [quote="SaveH2O":rfz7hl0f]I have often wondered what would happen in the scenario where a builder didn't attend to site drainage (some are recidivists) and the new home owner had site moisture samples taken pre handover and the site was found to have high moisture levels in different areas next to the slab. Could that alter the site classification, arguably making a standard waffle slab under-engineered and thereby non compliant? A bit like buying a new car but driving away with retreads perhaps?[/quote:rfz7hl0f] SaveH2O, would this be any different to the current situation that happens? All the 'experts' get involved and will continue to blame each other that were involved in the build and using their 'get out of jail' free cards. Many builders are recidivists, I am seeing this now, not only with my property but other properties my builder has built and currently building. Wonderful thing Facebook etc when he boasts about his new projects, posting photos as the build progresses. Many examples of poor building practices and non-compliance re drainage etc. These won't be any help in my case, but it is evidence that he continues to go about his merry way building his houses, selling them and making a packet by cutting down costs, then hiding behind his insurance companies and lawyers when things go wrong. One of the VBA's values are Evidence Based practices....well I don't think they meant from my example above, but I have submitted my complaint that my photo examples are upholding their values and need to take action against the builder and his mates including the Building Surveyor who ticked off work despite retaining wall not installed as per plans (this retaining wall was added in 3rd set of drawings that I was not aware of until this year). Still waiting for a response from the VBA since June. Won't hold my breath. If we don't get a Building Commission then maybe a class action against the VBA where they have failed consumers. Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 939Oct 20, 2019 10:40 am SaveH2O I have often wondered what would happen in the scenario where a builder didn't attend to site drainage (some are recidivists) and the new home owner had site moisture samples taken pre handover and the site was found to have high moisture levels in different areas next to the slab. Could that alter the site classification, arguably making a standard waffle slab under-engineered and thereby non compliant? A bit like buying a new car but driving away with retreads perhaps? Yes I can confirm this happens. For example if you have a class H2 site classification and the builder doesn't address site drainage during construction then the soil moisture levels can rise and the site becomes a class P(abnormal moisture conditions).If this happens then ground movement can exceed the designed ground movement for the slab and hence slab heave. The builder will usually say well this happened after hand over. Re: Has anyone rectified slab heave successfully 940Oct 20, 2019 2:38 pm insider Yes I can confirm this happens. For example if you have a class H2 site classification and the builder doesn't address site drainage during construction then the soil moisture levels can rise and the site becomes a class P(abnormal moisture conditions).If this happens then ground movement can exceed the designed ground movement for the slab and hence slab heave. The builder will usually say well this happened after hand over. Hi insider. Your reply is very interesting yet so obvious. Is there a maximum moisture content limit for a P class site? It also appears that some builders give scant attention to site drainage when a raft slab with piers is used. 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Hi All, we are starting to think of building with Masterpiece Builders in Victoria, has anyone had any feedback or experience with them 0 13596 Hi we are looking to talk to people who have built with them recently. We have signed mid range built contract but identified that a lot of things are not included.… 0 735 I work with owner, he/she is my man on the ground and I instruct them when to visit the site and take photos and I have other tools in the bag. 4 15284 |