Browse Forums General Discussion Re: Cavity Sliding Doors 21Apr 19, 2008 2:28 pm Southies, If you are thinking of installing the doors later try and avoid having any power points on the section of wall were the cavity will be.
Paul Re: Cavity Sliding Doors 22Apr 19, 2008 2:51 pm Hi Paul,
thanks , so does that mean that I don't have to advise builder to build a deeper cavity for future installation of the door? All I need to do is to ensure that they don't install wiring through that part of the wall? Built the Eden Brae Cambridge 34 Family with Boston Corner Facade Re: Cavity Sliding Doors 23Apr 19, 2008 3:27 pm You also need to make sure that any wall you want to put one into later, is not a load bearing wall. Re: Cavity Sliding Doors 24Apr 19, 2008 3:34 pm Southies, I'm pretty sure that unless you want something outside the norm that the standard cavity is fine - I'm basing this on a previous thread I posted last year:
http://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=4018 This thread also discusses an option for keeping your power points where the cavity is so well worth a look. Paul ps. lived in the shire for twenty years before moving to Canberra - your avatar is making me homesick Re: Cavity Sliding Doors 25Apr 19, 2008 4:05 pm Thanks Paul, will be in contact with Alma BP.
Also, it took us 25 years to get to the shire & are absolutely ecstatic about being here. Would you believe, it feels like home........even though home for me, all my life until now, was the inner west Built the Eden Brae Cambridge 34 Family with Boston Corner Facade Re: Cavity Sliding Doors 26Apr 19, 2008 4:37 pm Enjoy the shire - I grew up at Hurlstone Park before moving to the shire - so, who knows, maybe after 20 years in the shire you might follow us to ACT! Re: Cavity Sliding Doors 27Apr 19, 2008 7:07 pm Southies Does the cavity have to be deeper/thicker(?) than a normal cavity in order to accomodate the door & the associated joinery ? In other words do I have to specify to the builder that I want a deeper cavity for future installation of a cavity door? With cavity doors they typically come in widths the same as the house wall frames... So if you have a 70mm timber frame you get a 70mm cavity slider... Hume have 70, 75, 90 and 100mm units. They are the same width as the internal wall as they fit neatly, without additional packing, and are then sheeted like a normal walled frame... So if you know you want a cavity in the future, your best to put it in now. Electrical Engineer... Don't hold that against me... And keen owner builder... Mainly the building part!! Re: Cavity Sliding Doors 28Apr 19, 2008 7:26 pm chuth77 Southies Does the cavity have to be deeper/thicker(?) than a normal cavity in order to accomodate the door & the associated joinery ? In other words do I have to specify to the builder that I want a deeper cavity for future installation of a cavity door? With cavity doors they typically come in widths the same as the house wall frames... So if you have a 70mm timber frame you get a 70mm cavity slider... Hume have 70, 75, 90 and 100mm units. They are the same width as the internal wall as they fit neatly, without additional packing, and are then sheeted like a normal walled frame... So if you know you want a cavity in the future, your best to put it in now. Thanks Chuth77, I'm trying to avoid an exorbitant variation charge from my builder & would like to install the cavity door at a later date - I can get a good price through my employer. Is it terribly difficult to retro-fit? Built the Eden Brae Cambridge 34 Family with Boston Corner Facade Re: Cavity Sliding Doors 30Apr 19, 2008 8:25 pm Southies Thanks Chuth77, I'm trying to avoid an exorbitant variation charge from my builder & would like to install the cavity door at a later date - I can get a good price through my employer. Is it terribly difficult to retro-fit? Well if it's into an exisiting wall, lets just say it's not easy. It involves pulling of the skirting, and plasterboard, then cutting out the exisiting wall frame. Once installed you then have to resheet the wall, and finish it again. How much does the builder want? To give you an idea on pricing, the cavity door unit(including door) in a flush pull will cost you around $150. I'd hope the builder wouldn't charge you anymore the $300 to fit one... Electrical Engineer... Don't hold that against me... And keen owner builder... Mainly the building part!! Re: Cavity Sliding Doors 31Apr 19, 2008 9:29 pm chuth77 Southies Thanks Chuth77, I'm trying to avoid an exorbitant variation charge from my builder & would like to install the cavity door at a later date - I can get a good price through my employer. Is it terribly difficult to retro-fit? Well if it's into an exisiting wall, lets just say it's not easy. It involves pulling of the skirting, and plasterboard, then cutting out the exisiting wall frame. Once installed you then have to resheet the wall, and finish it again. How much does the builder want? To give you an idea on pricing, the cavity door unit(including door) in a flush pull will cost you around $150. I'd hope the builder wouldn't charge you anymore the $300 to fit one... Well chuth77......... you've helped me make up my mind......will get the builder to install it and just wear the markup . I didn't realise what would be involved in retro-fitting it . Thanks for your input Built the Eden Brae Cambridge 34 Family with Boston Corner Facade Re: Cavity Sliding Doors 33Apr 19, 2008 11:47 pm Southies So sorry dreamhome , I should have started a new thread...........still new at this . Will try to remember nexr time No worries Southies. I'm happy to read other people's queries too Re: Cavity Sliding Doors 34Apr 22, 2008 11:10 am We got 2 cavity sliders put onto our house. One for the doorway between the bedroom and ensuite, and one on the entrance to the back passage. They cost $284 each (not flush but it doesn't bother me).
Ray. Second Time 'Round Re: Cavity Sliding Doors 35Apr 22, 2008 5:35 pm chuth77 Paula They should meet in the middle to be fully closed, then open up so the doors are almost all the way in the wall (need a bit out to grab). Spend the extra $20 and get flush pull retracted cavities. These finish flush with the wall as their name suggests, and you have neat little handle onthe end of the door for pulling them closed. Gone are the days of having that horrid looking bit of cavity door sticking out! Does anyone have pictures of flush pull retracted cavities? Can you have timber flush cavities? Re: Cavity Sliding Doors 36Apr 22, 2008 9:54 pm Eb - No they dont. There is a'n air gap around the top rollers - just like a garage roller door and at the bottom has a gap too. as does the edges - so not as quiet as as a normal doors which can seal against a door jam.
re how wide an opening - - grab a brochure and have a look at the standard sizes. they do doubels which give an a 1980mm wide opening - If you want to go above that - you know the answer - YEP - it's cutoms and it costs more Steve Re: Cavity Sliding Doors 38Apr 26, 2008 2:23 pm We got our cavity sliding door without charge to lounge room, ensuite and wir. We just ask him and he gave it without charge.
Ask them to throw it in for you. Our builder charges $105 for each CSD in lieu of standard hinge doors. Hope this helps. Re: Cavity Sliding Doors 39Apr 26, 2008 3:05 pm chuth77 Paula They should meet in the middle to be fully closed, then open up so the doors are almost all the way in the wall (need a bit out to grab). Spend the extra $20 and get flush pull retracted cavities. These finish flush with the wall as their name suggests, and you have neat little handle onthe end of the door for pulling them closed. Gone are the days of having that horrid looking bit of cavity door sticking out! For some reason a few of the major project builders have problems with the whole 'flush with jamb' request - they don't quite understand as most of their jobs have the standard handle width bit of door sticking out (we were asked several times 'but how do you open the door without the handle?'). We had a 900mm opening, with a standard 920mm door (so that there is still 20mm of door in the wall when closed) and had to get a custom made cavity unit as the standard units were not wide enough for the 920mm door to slide all the way into the wall (by 20mm - ridiculous, surely they would make the standard units wide enough to go either way!!). The custom unit only cost about $120, plus door. We did initially plan for the door opening to be wider than 900mm, but decided the cost of a custom-made door outweighed the benefit of an extra 50mm or so. Unfortunately the painters didn't quite get that with a flush cavity unit they actually need to paint a bit of the inside of the jamb ... guess we will have to take the door off and do that one day ... All worth it to have a nice wide doorway that can still be closed when required. Re: Cavity Sliding Doors 40Sep 30, 2012 6:51 am I've just had cavity doors installed in my new home. They do not sit flush with the door frame when open. They stick out approx 75-100mm. restricting the door opening. Can this be a correct installation? Are the doors the wrong size? we have a standard size and often we have a lot of variety to choose 0 2641 We are looking for sliding doors which are 5 metres tall. There are a few European options. Any manufacturers in Australia or distributors? 0 3523 Pls help! The black marks show where our outdoor entertaining area would be along side of house as we have an irregular backyard and want to make use of the side as… 0 3327 |