Browse Forums General Discussion Re: Tiled Roof vs Colourbond - pros/cons (and noise question 21Aug 13, 2011 12:19 pm I agree to some degree. Tiled roofs always look dirty and mouldy and I have heard they need to be resealed every few years. But tiles do look nice and seem to be cheaper. Colorbond seems to be increasing in popularity though. Re: Tiled Roof vs Colourbond - pros/cons (and noise question 22Aug 13, 2011 2:13 pm So do I have this right so far.... * colourbond is more expensive than tiles? * colourbond is more 'noisy' with heavy rain * insulation reduces rain noise on colourbond to a level that isn't difficult to contend with - ie you don't have to shout or turn up TV?? (And rain noise not necessarily a bad thing, depends on your perspective). * And, I would assume, if we were double story and hence most of the roof was on 2nd story, it wouldn't make any difference to ground level where most of the 'living' areas would be (noise wise)?? * tiles have more maintenance (I can't remember any maintenance on our tiled roof growing up, but maybe there was???) I'm still trying to find out which one is more energy efficient?? Being in melbourne we probably should lean towards attracting heat and keeping house warmer in winter (??) - to cut energy bills over winter which is where most of our $$ go. But interested to hear the thermal properties of both. HHCIB Re: Tiled Roof vs Colourbond - pros/cons (and noise question 23Aug 13, 2011 3:03 pm How Hard Can it Be So do I have this right so far.... * colourbond is more expensive than tiles? Depends on your builder and your location - from what I can gather, colourbond is more common is SA than in eastern states, was standard with our builder, in fact they build steel frames and colourbond roofs for all their houses. I gather some builders, especially in eastern states, will charge more to upgrade to colourbond * colourbond is more 'noisy' with heavy rain * insulation reduces rain noise on colourbond to a level that isn't difficult to contend with - ie you don't have to shout or turn up TV?? (And rain noise not necessarily a bad thing, depends on your perspective). Correct * And, I would assume, if we were double story and hence most of the roof was on 2nd story, it wouldn't make any difference to ground level where most of the 'living' areas would be (noise wise)?? Makes sense to me - may notice noise of rain at night if you are sleeping in bedrooms, of course - but certainly wouldnt keep you awake. *tiles have more maintenance (I can't remember any maintenance on our tiled roof growing up, but maybe there was???) Have never owned a house with tiled roof - but moss/lichen which need to be spray cleaned off every so often grow much more in cooller damper climates - thus I notice it on roofs in Adelaide but not at all in our country town in much dryer warmer area. I imagine it would grow in Melbourne at least as much as Adelaide though I'm still trying to find out which one is more energy efficient?? Being in melbourne we probably should lean towards attracting heat and keeping house warmer in winter (??) - to cut energy bills over winter which is where most of our $$ go. But interested to hear the thermal properties of both. Have no idea of relative thermal properties Re: Tiled Roof vs Colourbond - pros/cons (and noise question 24Aug 13, 2011 4:46 pm The colorbond website does boast about: "All roofs made from COLORBOND® steel now incorporate new Thermatech® technology which works by reflecting more of the sun's heat - leaving the roof space and therefore the building cooler. In hot weather it can keep un-insulated buildings an average of about 5ºC cooler. " Source: http://www.colorbond.com/news/bluescope ... ainability Also the "thermatech" factsheet for home owners implies that it *will* be better in Summer than it used to be. No comparison to tiles: http://www.colorbond.com/thermatech/dow ... -sheet.pdf It does not say that you need to spend more on heating, but it does emphasize the cooling. However I'd assume colorbond + insulation blanket + batts in the ceiling with the current 6 star homes would result in little difference between tiles and colorbond. If anyone knows the facts or comparisons I'm interested I found this one http://www.solarpassivehomeplans.com.au ... of-better/ but that was for Perth, not Melbourne Either way, if the upgrade is less than 3K I'll probably get it Re: Tiled Roof vs Colourbond - pros/cons (and noise question 25Aug 14, 2011 4:13 pm Interesting thread. Where do "shingles" fit into this? We are considering shingles because they look nice, but I imagine that they would be closer to tiles in performance. Any ideas? Never lived in a colorbond-ed house before so can't imagine what the noise would be like. Re: Tiled Roof vs Colourbond - pros/cons (and noise question 26Aug 14, 2011 4:31 pm I find this thread very interesting indeed. Personally I prefer tiles as I like the 'Look' without getting into the whys and the where fors of it all. I found a few comments quite amazing and very interesting. To me, there is nothing that looks more worse than a 'Tired' looking colorbond roof. One of my friends in particular her home is 15 years old and the colorbond roof looks horrendous (I dont tell her that though ) it is so discolored and not a pretty sight at all. I just feel tiles dont look as bad when they wear... Dont bite my head off Just my opinion Re: Tiled Roof vs Colourbond - pros/cons (and noise question 27Aug 14, 2011 6:50 pm In Scotland , where I'm from, I never seen a tin roof anywhere except on a dog kennel or shed. The tiles can crack, but not if you walk on the correct spots supported by tile batten and if you don't know where to walk, you shouldn't be up there. As for resealing every few years, what a load of old tosh. They will wear after time and can be resealed/ finished but 20 - 25 yrs I recon (guess only) As for a cracked tile ruining your new ceiling again I disagree, there will or should be a water proof membrane under tiles and tiles are easy to change in ones, ie. 30 seconds once your up there. ( you only hang around up there longer, fluffing around and banging occasionally to increase the bill! Wink..) I do like the look of colour bond though, you can stand and admire it on your front lawn in your underwear! Lol Re: Tiled Roof vs Colourbond - pros/cons (and noise question 28Aug 14, 2011 6:57 pm Darren Stewart As for a cracked tile ruining your new ceiling again I disagree, there will or should be a water proof membrane under tiles and tiles are easy to change in ones, As a painter I disagree, I have painted countless homes all with water damage to the ceilings from cracked tiles. The only homes I have painted with ceiling damage that are are are the ones from 50 years ago that never had full length sheets and used to rust through where the joints overlapped, and even that took 50 years to leak. Re: Tiled Roof vs Colourbond - pros/cons (and noise question 29Aug 14, 2011 7:42 pm eyspy Darren Stewart As for a cracked tile ruining your new ceiling again I disagree, there will or should be a water proof membrane under tiles and tiles are easy to change in ones, As a painter I disagree, I have painted countless homes all with water damage to the ceilings from cracked tiles. The only homes I have painted with ceiling damage that are are are the ones from 50 years ago that never had full length sheets and used to rust through where the joints overlapped, and even that took 50 years to leak. I agree here, most people with tiled roofs dont even know when there is a small leak. usually water falls onto the batts and sit there and dried up before the next rain. Only when its really bad do they find out. Re: Tiled Roof vs Colourbond - pros/cons (and noise question 30Aug 14, 2011 8:28 pm Yep but I will bet you there was nothing under the tiles except tile batten and rafter. Good construction would be rafter-sheet material (ie. 12-15mm ply)- water proof membrane laid from bottom up- counter battens- tile battens- tile. You would be hard pressed to find anyone using any sheet material in oz, most likely just hoop iron bracing. But the rest should be there. No leaks if done correctly. Re: Tiled Roof vs Colourbond - pros/cons (and noise question 31Aug 14, 2011 9:02 pm I had some friends who had a tile break off and their brand new house had a leak, that was <6months ago in Oz. I cannot recall which builder but it was a volume builder. Re: Tiled Roof vs Colourbond - pros/cons (and noise question 32Aug 14, 2011 9:17 pm Darren Stewart Yep but I will bet you there was nothing under the tiles except tile batten and rafter. Good construction would be rafter-sheet material (ie. 12-15mm ply)- water proof membrane laid from bottom up- counter battens- tile battens- tile. You would be hard pressed to find anyone using any sheet material in oz, most likely just hoop iron bracing. But the rest should be there. No leaks if done correctly. Most of my painting jobs were on heritage homes before these methods and regulations were used (I rarely do modern homes as they lack character for my liking and I had plenty enough work just with the old stuff) . As for modern homes sticking to the regulations, well that's another matter altogether for which I can't answer. Re: Tiled Roof vs Colourbond - pros/cons (and noise question 33Aug 15, 2011 6:30 pm I have the quote now: $2780 The builder did advise that the insulated sarking is already included with a foil of some kind. I already have R3.5 batts in the ceiling but I *could* upgrade to R4.0 batts for a price of about $900, I'm not sure if this is worth it. R4.0 will absorb more noise than R3.5 but I'm not sure if its worth the extra $$$. Re: Tiled Roof vs Colourbond - pros/cons (and noise question 34Aug 15, 2011 7:13 pm If you can afford it do it, you will only ever kick yourself later Re: Tiled Roof vs Colourbond - pros/cons (and noise question 35Aug 15, 2011 8:36 pm Darren Stewart If you can afford it do it, you will only ever kick yourself later I was thinking about that today. The issue with ignoring any of the things I have is not the cost but the "what if". What if the sound is too loud after I build? Too late obviously (except paying quite a bit of $$$). Plus the R4.0 batts will make my house very close to 7 star, I'll have to wait until closer to the build for the re-evaluation. Note: I was 6.1 without the double glazed window using a less efficient window, I've upgrading to Ecoclassic windows / sliding door which should make a difference in the rating. Although I'm not sure if rating software takes into account how efficient a particular window brand is. Re: Tiled Roof vs Colourbond - pros/cons (and noise question 36Aug 15, 2011 11:29 pm Hi All, I am in the same decision stage as well as those chiming in on this thread. One poster above mentioned that cement tiles are painted, I think this may not always be the case as the new range of tiles are coloured through the tile so if there is a chip it is less obvious. For clay tiles there will be an abscence of glaze if there is a chip and it will stand out, unless your roof is the same colour as the baked clay. Old cement tiles were only painted and would need to be redone (my folks got about 35years out of theirs) You can also specific the same liner be installed as you have on a colourbond roof. The builder I am going with has a choice between monier cement and colourbond at the same price. The area in which I am building has predominantly tiled roofing. All very confusing but I guess ultimately personal choice. I also agree, if someone wants to break in they will break a window. My house is a 2 story so I am not sure how someone will climb up 20+ feet top the gutter line to break in, presumably they will stand on the concrete slab fence and jump...haha. Ciao Mark Re: Tiled Roof vs Colourbond - pros/cons (and noise question 37Aug 16, 2011 12:03 pm I know people that are actually removing their tiled roofs and replacing with C/B iron roofs because of the leaks they get with tiles. There are some tiles out there tough as, but there are also a lot the break when you look at them. Re: Tiled Roof vs Colourbond - pros/cons (and noise question 38Jan 06, 2013 10:10 pm Great thread, I am struggling with this decision at the moment. I'm leaning towards colour bond but the builder wants to charge about $5K for a 60mm anticon blanket. Does the anticon blanket have any thermal qualities? If not why does it come in different sizes (80mm and 100mm) Cheers Re: Tiled Roof vs Colourbond - pros/cons (and noise question 39Jan 07, 2013 8:01 am Any builder that charges you more to install a colorbond roof as opposed to a tiled roof is ripping you off. I've given quite a few of my clients the option over the years and compared prices. Usually the tiled roof comes out a couple of grand more for the average sized house. A tiled roof weighs something like 26kg/sqm and the sheet steel roof is something like 10kg/sqm. All that weight has to be supported by a beefed up truss or rafter frame which costs more. Download and have a look at this study done in 2005. http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http://w ... egvo-cZKuQ I'd imagine the cost difference would be very similar in 2012-13 Tez-HG Anticon definitely has thermal qualities and is designed to both keep out excess heat from your ceiling space and to prevent condensation forming on the underside of your metal roof http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http://w ... 0v8fXknV7A Stewie Re: Tiled Roof vs Colourbond - pros/cons (and noise question 40Jan 07, 2013 10:40 am Is it also fair to say that if you first build with tiles and then later decide to replace with colourbond, the changeover would be easier then to go from colourbond to tiles?? Or would it be much of a muchness? Standard uninsulated double brick has an R value of around 0.7. An insulated standard 90mm stud timber frame can have an R value of around 2.7. Even if you insulate a… 17 12046 No, I even have sections of narrowness where the tiles won't slide up any further. When I manage some spare time, I might play around with the first DIY part of my… 7 4932 Thank you so much. We ended going with the terrain that’s part of our brick. 2 2538 |