Browse Forums General Discussion 1 Feb 23, 2011 4:20 pm Hello all, I was just wondering if anyone can give me some advise in regards to a charge we have received from ETSA for the 'connection of supply with more than standard number of phases'... I am of the understanding that the costs for connecting all utilities (power, water, gas, telephone, sewerage) is included in the building contract as as such should be covered by the builder as a part of the cost of build, however the bill has been sent directly to me and the builder says that it is not covered. Can anyone shed any light on whether this is a usual charge not covered by the builder? Re: 3 phase power to new home 2Feb 23, 2011 4:31 pm In our contract (Big M in 2005) the electricity was excluded. It cost us $220 for single phase only. Regards The Harder You Try - the Luckier You Get ! Web site http://www.anewhouse.com.au Informative, Amusing, and Opinionated Blog - Over 600 posts on all aspects of building a new house. Re: 3 phase power to new home 3Feb 23, 2011 5:19 pm Hi Shacky, I have just gone through a similar thing with ETSA and our builder. Our situation is as follows: The standard connection is only single phase and this is covered in the inclusions by the builder. However, getting 3-phase power is an upgrade and both the builder and ETSA will charge us extra for this. I have been advised by ETSA that the cost will be $255 + GST and our customer service contact at the builder said something about an additional $300 or so as well. So I guess unless your building contract specifically says that it includes 3-phase power and that the builder will cover the charges from ETSA you will have to pay this. Thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=52680 SiteStart 19/11/11 Slab 10/12/11 Frame 17/02/12 Roof 3/05/12 LockUp 22/06/12 Handover 31/08/12 Re: 3 phase power to new home 4Feb 24, 2011 9:18 am I think from memory we paid an extra few hundred with Carlisle Homes to have 3 phase fitted. We ran it to the garage and to the Air Con. Re: 3 phase power to new home 5Feb 24, 2011 9:40 am We have three phase included in our contract so should be no additional cost to us - apart from adding surge arrestors - we had to get three but better to be safe than sorry. For info on our build: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=43093 Built the McLaren by Dechellis - slab down 22 Feb - handover 30 Aug 2011 - and gardens finished 9 Dec 2012!! Re: 3 phase power to new home 7Feb 24, 2011 11:16 am Hi I am building with M3tr!con (NSW). The contract includes three-phase wiring and connection to "the street". However the actual connection to the electricity company (I think that means installation of the meters) is not included and is my responsibility after handover. DKP Re: 3 phase power to new home 8Feb 24, 2011 12:17 pm 3 Phase power, You must have a large demand as 3 phase is not usually needed. I have a large house with 4 A/C the usual 3 TV's Cinema as well and an electric oven and single phase has never been an issue. Re: 3 phase power to new home 9Feb 24, 2011 12:35 pm Wait one moment. We are missing the point. Shacky, did you ask for three phase? If not, then there should be no extra cost to you. I, as a business can't supply more to you than in a contract and then charge you for it. If there was a variation then there needs to be a signed variation form (singed by the builder and the owner). Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: 3 phase power to new home 10Feb 24, 2011 12:39 pm @ foc 1 - Most large Refrigerated Air con systems use 3 phase power. The reason is the power required to start the compressor is so high that it will almost definitely cause a surge/drop out of other appliances in the house. 3 phase is also cheaper per unit than single phase so the bigger A/C units don't cost any more to run than the smaller ones. Another upside to 3 phase is that 3 phase tools and equipment are cheaper to buy as its not very common. You can get 2nd hand work shop equipment at around 20-35% of retail 3yr old if its 3 phase. Re: 3 phase power to new home 11Feb 24, 2011 12:45 pm If you have a fixed price contract and it says it includes electricity connection there should be no extra charge to you. @Casa2 - We're assuming they have asked or need 3 phase power (Air Con or just asked for it anyway) Also @Shacky - You should re read your building contract to see what is included for the connections. I'm pretty sure not many builder connect telephone as standard. Ours doesn't and we have to have it at our cost. The cost of our 3 phase upgrade was $1230, this was due to the distance from the exchange/connection in street and a couple of other factors. Re: 3 phase power to new home 12Feb 24, 2011 2:36 pm Casa2 Shacky, did you ask for three phase? Yes, I did ask for 3 phase as we have a 4.4hp A/C unit being installed, and after talking to ETSA they said that there will always be an additional cost to the owner (not covered by the builder) to connect the 3 phase power to the grid. The builder's charge for 3 phase power was to run all the wiring from the switchboard to the stoby pole (power pole) out the front of the house, as well as the upgraded wiring etc in the house. Re: 3 phase power to new home 13Feb 24, 2011 3:41 pm Just had a look at our electrician's bill and it quotes:- 1 x 3 phase outlet to garage + 3 pole circuit breaker $330.00 Can't remember what our builder was going to charge us but they went bankrupt before the end of the build so we engaged the eleco to finish everything off ourselves. This was all we were charged - nothing extra from the electricity company. 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