Browse Forums General Discussion Re: What would you expect? 24Jan 26, 2011 5:02 pm Thanks everyone. We choose a solver colour called paper white. I just said i wanted a glossy coat on the doors, not semi-gloss but full-gloss. I have no idea why the dumb a+++ painter would then get oil based paint. Do you think the paper white colour is mixed with the oil base? Can they do that? And also it doesn't explain why the cavity slider has gone yellow. Hmmm, an email off to the builder is in order. I hope they fix this for me but I am not holding my breath Re: What would you expect? 25Jan 27, 2011 3:45 pm Hi OObubblesOO. I have sent you a PM. We are having a similar issue as yourself with Solver paint. Re: What would you expect? 26Jan 27, 2011 4:11 pm Ok- Now I'm worried. I mentioned this thread to my husband (who is painting our newhouse) We plan to have pure white/vivid white skirtings and architraves and I mentioned this thread and how people have had issues with it yellowing and I wanted to ensure he bought the right paint.... My husband then reveals to me that he is using oil based paint. He hasn't bought it yet as he isn't up to the skirtings and architraves yet. I freaked out because I certainly don't want ours yellowing over time but my husband says it is more durable. He is by no means an experienced painter- Is he right? Is it considered more durable? Is there a way we can use the oil based paint and avoid the yellowing? Does the yellowing have to do with brand/ quality/ application technique? Does anyone have an advice they can offer or some evidence I can use to convince my husband that using an oil based paint could be a mistake. Re: What would you expect? 27Jan 27, 2011 4:44 pm Is he right? - 'course not Is it considered more durable? - Many would say so, I disagree. After all, you're not going to drive a herd of cattle alongside your skirtings, would you. Some common sense applies regardless of paint type. Oil paint is not a no-fail, last-forever-as-on-day-1 either. Is there a way we can use the oil based paint and avoid the yellowing? - Unknown to me, so I'll say NO. Does the yellowing have to do with brand/ quality/ application technique? - NO. Does anyone have an advice they can or some evidence I can use to convince my husband that using an oil based paint could be a mistake. - Yep. Buy ANY water based paint brand, eg. Taubmans or Dulux. Please be careful as these days they make non-white paint bases too so just look for the words "White". Gloss level to my naked eye is the same as for oil based paints , so just buy the glossiest one (I think technically it's about 80% - looks same to me ). .. convince my husband that using an oil based paint could be a mistake. - You WILL be nagging him for the rest of your lives if he goes ahead with this annoying thing of the past - oil paint. Long live acrylics!!! My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: What would you expect? 30Jan 27, 2011 5:05 pm Is it a plain tin, non-branded, no stickers? If not, maybe you could post a pic?? All paints which you buy in the shops would state if it's water or oil based (even if it's in the fine print). So, this is inconclusive - so far. My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: What would you expect? 31Jan 27, 2011 5:06 pm Miss, I was just looking at the dulux site, show him this http://www.dulux.com.au/specifier/produ ... ducts/trim tells you which ones to use for non-yellowing Re: What would you expect? 32Jan 27, 2011 5:07 pm Lex Is it a plain tin, non-branded, no stickers? If not, maybe you could post a pic?? All paints which you buy in the shops would state if it's water or oil based (even if it's in the fine print). So, this is inconclusive - so far. No, it's dulux. The side with the small print on it is all painted on, which is why I can't find whether it's oil based or not, but looking at the dulux site it is. Re: What would you expect? 34Jan 27, 2011 5:11 pm yep, this one http://www.dulux.com.au/specifier/produ ... oduct=2126 Re: What would you expect? 35Jan 27, 2011 5:18 pm D*mn! I still shudder whenever I see the horrible words "oil based paint" Builders and painters should be made to sign some pretty ugly doco that if they accidentally use oil paints that they have to fix it plus pay you LDs for the stress and pay you a weekend or two in a resort to try to shake it all off! No, seriously, I honestly think that acrylic paints are a dream to use inside of the house for the usual things such as the trims! We even painted our external doors in water based pure white - nothing happened to it despite all that afternoon sun! But, you can always fix it. It's not even that hard (except for the knees if the skirtings are attached). My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: What would you expect? 36Jan 27, 2011 5:23 pm I just can't imagine going around the whole house and sanding and doing it again. There is so much of the skirting and with 3 little kids, it aint going to happen, I just don't have time. "IF" it stays as it is, I can live with it, but if it gets any worse, I will be speaking to the builder and asking they redo it as I didn't specify yellow paint! Don't know if they will, but it's worth a try. I have actually noticed the same thing as Bubbles, that the cavity slider is actually a lot more discoloured than the rest... wonder why that would be? I find it strange they even try to sell this stuff. On the dulux website, it clearly states that if you do not want yellowing, then use the aquamarine stuff!! If they know it does that, then why sell it in the whites? Re: What would you expect? 37Jan 27, 2011 6:30 pm Rizzo I have actually noticed the same thing as Bubbles, that the cavity slider is actually a lot more discoloured than the rest... wonder why that would be? We were told it happens due to lack of natural light. The doors spend more time closed than open so they are in the dark, the effect is more noticeable. This is the same at my place and also on the inside of the broom cupboard and linen cupboard doors. Re: What would you expect? 38Jan 27, 2011 6:49 pm It's normal practice to use oil-based paint on doors, skirts and so on. Most painters prefer it.... and our builder's standard specifications stated that oil-based gloss paints would be used on those areas. I don't see any problems with oil, apart from it being more smelly and taking longer to dry. It's far more durable (I used semi-gloss acrylic on a built-in wall unit and a set of bifold doors in our old house and it was a BIG mistake; lots of scratches from normal usage ) and cleans easily. No yellowing here. Re: What would you expect? 39Jan 27, 2011 7:18 pm I know, Rizzo, it's very hard Our builder made a huge mistake, and I was thinking the same - if we were to leave it, then I'd have to go through this huge job myself (doors being the worst!). Lucky for us, they had no choice in the end, as we had it in our contract (without even realising) and it also happens to be their standard paint type and written in specs they gave us. They did a pretty good job of covering it up. A very light fine sand and then just paint it over. The alternative is to use Zeinsser (sp?) as the primer - it's so good that apparently you don't need sanding (or so they say). But, check your contract and specs - if they specified water based, they would have to fix it. My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: What would you expect? 40Jan 27, 2011 8:30 pm Lex Is it a plain tin, non-branded, no stickers? If not, maybe you could post a pic?? All paints which you buy in the shops would state if it's water or oil based (even if it's in the fine print). So, this is inconclusive - so far. You can tell by looking at the cleanup instructions. If it says to clean up with turpentine, then it's an oil based paint. 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