Browse Forums General Discussion 1 Oct 20, 2007 6:20 pm My house will be full brick. Normally the inside walls would be cement rendered, however I've been thinking about using plaster on the walls.
The main reason for using plaster is to future-proof the house. If ever in the future I want to add more wiring then I can cut into the wall, put in the wiring and resurface. This can't (maybe it can) be done with cement render since it's impossible (difficult) to get the finish to look clean. My brief web search has revealed tht there are many forms of plaster (gypsum plaster, lime plaster, etc). Another side benefir of plaster is that it has a smooth finish which probably looks better. This however is not the driver. My questions are: 1) What are peoples thoughts on plaster finish on walls? 2) Any idea of additional cost over cement render? 3) Which type of plaster is best (would like the toughest finish)? Cheers, Casa Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: White set plaster 2Oct 20, 2007 7:13 pm Toughest finish would be the render.
Cleanest……(able to clean with a wipe of a cloth) would be the plaster board painted. Render is very course! Not sure but I think plaster could be cheaper than rendering. Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: White set plaster 3Oct 20, 2007 7:36 pm When I mentioned plaster, I'm not talking about plasterboard, but rather plaster (aka white set plaster) that is applied directly to the brickwork or on top of the cement render.
I'm after something that is thermally effecient and will take the knocks, like cement render. However the smooth finish will allow me to add wiring or plumbing in the future and fix it up without showing. Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: White set plaster 4Oct 20, 2007 7:43 pm Sorry got THAT wrong!!! Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: White set plaster 5Oct 20, 2007 8:22 pm its standard practice in WA, a thin coat of grey render over brick, with a thin topcoat of whiteset plaster over that. Once you have it, you will be hard pushed to go back to stud walls with plasterboard.
It has a better finish than plasterboard anyway..... Re: White set plaster 6Oct 20, 2007 8:40 pm memphis,
You guys in WA are so lucky. Full brick as standard and whiteset plaster. We're lucky to have full brick (and they charge for it), let alone whiteset plaster. Is the grey render plus thin topcoat of whiteset plaster just as strong as render or is it prone to damage from knocks? Cheers, Casa Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: White set plaster 7Oct 20, 2007 10:23 pm well, the whiteset does chip, but painted its quite strong, around the same as gyprock, if not a little bit stronger.
make sure you use steel beading on the corners, as thats where 95% of chips will occur. mine at home has taken quite a beating and its still holding up good!, plus i can put pictures, tv, etc wherever i like without messing around with studs! Re: White set plaster 8Oct 21, 2007 4:54 pm Quote: You guys in WA are so lucky. Full brick as standard and whiteset plaster. We're lucky to have full brick (and they charge for it), let alone whiteset plaster. I dont like it. If we drill into the wall, we are just as likely to hit the mortar, if there is mortar. Then we need to drill again, and in some cases again. The plaster marks easily, ours badly in places. Like where the kitchen table was sitting near the wall. Dont get me started on the corners. Patching walls is not as easy as it looks, and you need to be careful not to sand the plaster or you will be left with scratches. Sealing/binding is a must. It is not easy to put in wires after the build, and have a smooth finish. We have got 2 spots where the previous owner has done this (home handyman maybe) and it looks shocking. You can see where they have tried to patch. From what I have seen the wires are put into a groove cut into the brick at building. Doing it later wouldnt look as good. I also think it depends on the builder as to the quality of the finish. Our house was built in the 70's and our plaster is shocking. It was not sealed before painting and countless coats of paint (at least 4) just peel off....like skin after sunburn. When I tried to re-paint one very small bedroom, instead of taking a few days ended up taking weeks. Trying to fix up all the holes from screws/plugs, plaster that had come of with the paint, paint that had stuck etc, etc. It was a nightmare, never doing that again. Re: White set plaster 9Oct 21, 2007 8:55 pm hi casa,
we are also building double brick and will be solid plastering all internal walls. we have been quoted about $12,000 to do this (labour and materials inclusive). not sure how this compares to other prices but it will give us the finish we are looking for. cheers Helen Re: White set plaster 10Oct 21, 2007 9:37 pm MaylandsManor,
Are you white plastering over your brickwork or using cement render plus a skim layer of white plaster (see I'm getting the hang of the lingo)? How does the price of plaster compare to cement render? What made yoou choose plaster as opposed to the more conventional cement render? Where are you building? Lots of questions I know. Cheers, Casa Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: White set plaster 11Oct 21, 2007 9:54 pm hi casa,
we are building in adelaide. as far as I know we are white plastering straight onto the brickwork. As far as I understand it, this is the more traditional method of plastering double brick (feel free to correct me if i am telling porkies!), and it is the smooth but not flawless look we are going for. I am not sure of the price difference. I will ask our plasterer and get back to you. cheers Helen Re: White set plaster 12Oct 22, 2007 12:28 pm I've been thinking about my question more and have come to the realisation that I'm probably asking the wrong questioon. The only reason I'm considering white set plaster is with regard to chasing in extra wiring or plumbing in the future and then putting the re-rendering so that it still looks good.
So my real question should be: - With cement render, is it possible to cut into it then re-render the cut section and make it look good? There must be someone out there that does cement rendering for a living. Cheers, Casa Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: White set plaster 13Oct 22, 2007 9:32 pm Casa2 I've been thinking about my question more and have come to the realisation that I'm probably asking the wrong questioon. The only reason I'm considering white set plaster is with regard to chasing in extra wiring or plumbing in the future and then putting the re-rendering so that it still looks good. So my real question should be: - With cement render, is it possible to cut into it then re-render the cut section and make it look good? There must be someone out there that does cement rendering for a living. Cheers, Casa of course its possible, just do it right!, blending takes time, you cant just slop some filler over it and give it a lick of paint, you need to give it the same amount of care you would with any other plaster job. mind you, its a lot easier to just run yours wired on the external double brick cavity!, no cutting of bricks required. Depends... Brick veneer required the window to be attached to the house frame, this is usually achieved by screwing through the timber reveal into the frame. There are… 1 7441 Thank you so much. This has been very helpful. We definitely wish to settle and get these people out of our life. They are trying to charge us interest on late… 7 14184 Hi, Have used the Dulux 1 step, oil base on my walls(white set), out of can it’s already a more thinner product than a final coat paint Also in water base Water or… 3 4997 |