Browse Forums General Discussion 1 Apr 07, 2010 11:45 am Hi guys, I was hoping someone who built with Porter Davis could help me. Just wondering what comes standard in terms of paint? Will I have to pay extra to have the doors and trims white and the walls another colour? Also does anyone know the cost of feature walls or rooms in different colours than the main flow? Thanks She's backkkkk... Re: Porter Davis and Paint 2Apr 07, 2010 12:45 pm Hi Sharee, here is how it works: You get to choose a colour for your walls and a colour for your trims (can be different). If you choose a dark colour you may need to pay extra because the colour may require an extra coat (its 2 coats as standard, 1 tinted undercoat and 1 top coat). If you want an extra top coat (which is the correct way of painting), you will be charged extra (don’t bother, you would be better off spending the money on repainting with better paint after you move in). To get them to use better quality paint, you will be charged a small fortune, once again, you would be better off repainting after moving in. Feature walls are expensive, you would probably be charged about $350 for a wall, you can buy the paint and do it yourself for about $40 max (that includes brushed and rollers). You could try talking to the painter that’s painting your house and tell them you will pay them cash to paint feature walls, but you would probably need to provide the paint, but you will find that most painters will be willing to do this for you. One more point, if you choose white, you’re not actually getting white, all builders specify white to actually be builders white, this varies from brand to brand, however it basically means that a very small amount of black (or similar) tint goes into the paint, it still looks white and you would never be able to really tell, but its something to be aware of. Hope this helps. Current status: Busy making the house our home Built PD Francis 29 on our 576m2 block at Reflections in Tarneit Reflections Estate Thread Our Build Thread Re: Porter Davis and Paint 4Apr 07, 2010 1:06 pm HI Sharee, Are you building again?? We weren't charged extra for having the trims a different colour from the walls. Feature walls for us were $170.00 each and we got one thrown in for free. I'd probably be inclined to upgrade to the ID paint and pay the extra, could be around $2k-$3k depending on the size of the house. You should be able to get these prices from your sales guy. Yes the washable Wattyl paint isn't the best, I washed the walls when we moved in and was left with marks all over them. PD have since repainted these walls with ID (at no cost to me ). It's worth it it in the long run especially with little people in the house. Happy at Home Re: Porter Davis and Paint 5Apr 07, 2010 1:15 pm Lunchtime Pd uses Wattyl brand paint which i have been told is questionable. My research suggests to save your money and get it done properly after handover. Their 'washable' paint isnt really that washable Agree 100% Current status: Busy making the house our home Built PD Francis 29 on our 576m2 block at Reflections in Tarneit Reflections Estate Thread Our Build Thread Re: Porter Davis and Paint 6Apr 07, 2010 1:20 pm I agree the paint they use is appauling. I have 2 coats of the Wattyl paint on my PD house and apart from the fact that you can see through it, it also marks so easily its not funny. Wipe a cloth on a wall and its a permanent mark - I'm not kidding. Marks simply do not wipe off, the only way you can remove any kind of mark is to paint over it. When I built feature walls were $180 per wall - so a whole room would be 4x$180 min. Re: Porter Davis and Paint 7Apr 07, 2010 2:10 pm House-To-Be HI Sharee, Are you building again?? We weren't charged extra for having the trims a different colour from the walls. Feature walls for us were $170.00 each and we got one thrown in for free. I'd probably be inclined to upgrade to the ID paint and pay the extra, could be around $2k-$3k depending on the size of the house. You should be able to get these prices from your sales guy. Yes the washable Wattyl paint isn't the best, I washed the walls when we moved in and was left with marks all over them. PD have since repainted these walls with ID (at no cost to me ). It's worth it it in the long run especially with little people in the house. Hi Toni! Yepp I'm back! We are putting the house on the market, have bought a block at the end of our street and are going to do it all over again!!! Thanks everyone shall see about upgrading the paint to something a little more durable She's backkkkk... Re: Porter Davis and Paint 8Apr 07, 2010 2:35 pm I saw your other thread about it. Congrats, good stuff. I bet you'll enjoy having a bigger home too. See the bad memories fade I'm not ruling out building again but DH and the kids are happy to stay put Will you rent in the Estate? Happy at Home Re: Porter Davis and Paint 9Apr 07, 2010 4:23 pm If I ever built another PD house I would take the house unpainted (and get a credit) and get proper professional painters in to do the house from scratch from top to bottom after the build. I think my 3 year old son could have done a better job of painting our existing house Blog: http://bluemistkids.blogspot.com "Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark, and professionals built the Titanic." Re: Porter Davis and Paint 10Apr 07, 2010 6:16 pm Wattyl make perfectly good paints. Unfortunately, the ones the builders tend to use as standard aren't them. We upgraded the whole house to ID at a cost of $1600, chose a different colour for the walls in both bathrooms and the toilet, also $1600 (that was highway robbery ) and had the ceilings done in our choice of colour (not white) for $360. Staining the entry door frame instead of painting was $90, and we had our facade timber windows stained instead of painted for $860. Feature walls were about the same as HTB's if I remember correctly, but we had three included in our promo. I'm sure all the prices will have gone up; our tender was put together almost three years ago now. Anyway, it's definitely worth getting the better paint, with three coats. Like every other trade, the result will also depend on the painter you get. Ours was a gem. I hope you get all the good ones.... Re: Porter Davis and Paint 13Apr 07, 2010 7:09 pm I'm not building with any of the volume builders so i cant seem to understand why upgrading to higher grade paint could cost anymore than what i could go and by the 20L tin of paint for, a few hundred dollars for dulux, wattly. We bought a 15L tin of dulux for around $150 - $180. Maybe you could just supply the paint and undercoat to the painter directly. Re: Porter Davis and Paint 14Apr 07, 2010 7:24 pm Mango I'm not building with any of the volume builders so i cant seem to understand why upgrading to higher grade paint could cost anymore than what i could go and by the 20L tin of paint for, a few hundred dollars for dulux, wattly. We bought a 15L tin of dulux for around $150 - $180. Maybe you could just supply the paint and undercoat to the painter directly. Nice idea Mango, but nope. They won't do it... The painter doesn't get any extra for his work just because a different paint is used, and the difference in the paint cost isn't much, so the markup is all (or mostly) to the builder. I suppose it discourages a lot of people from making too many variations, which makes everything simpler for a volume builder. And it's like every other upgrade - the cost isn't necessarily in proportion to the value of the item being substituted. Since I was always at the house, I got to know our painter quite well and we had quite a number of discussions about the whole subject. You might as well ask how they calculate the upgrade cost for stone benchtops, different tiles and so on. Even the builder's staff can't explain it most of the time. If you want it, you just pay for it. I guess the alternative is to have the whole house painted in white, then repaint it yourself before moving in. Probably cheaper, but who has the time? Re: Porter Davis and Paint 15Apr 07, 2010 8:27 pm yeah kek, i guess i'm pretty lucky that hubby and i are doing an owner build on our extensions and doing most of the work slowly ourselves. It would drive me mad paying for every little variation as i have changed my mind continuosly. Re: Porter Davis and Paint 16Apr 08, 2010 2:24 am Quote: If I ever built another PD house I would take the house unpainted (and get a credit). The only problem here is the builder will only offer a piddling amount of credit to satisfy their greed. We supplied all the tiles for our build several years ago and were offered around $350 credit from the builder. Arfur Re: Porter Davis and Paint 17Apr 08, 2010 8:23 am Uncle Arfur Quote: If I ever built another PD house I would take the house unpainted (and get a credit). The only problem here is the builder will only offer a piddling amount of credit to satisfy their greed. We supplied all the tiles for our build several years ago and were offered around $350 credit from the builder. Yeah I know that... but it's the principle of the matter. I'd rather pay a few thousand dollars to someone else to get a professional job in the first place. We will have the whole house repainted in a few years time anyway, due to the destruction my kids are causing Blog: http://bluemistkids.blogspot.com "Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark, and professionals built the Titanic." Re: Porter Davis and Paint 18Apr 08, 2010 10:27 am PD pay about 6.5k for a house to be painted inside and out (a friend used to paint for them). A professional painter might charge about 12k under normal cirumstances. So you aren't going to get a quality job through a builder if they are paying a little over half but the cost of having it done yourself is not peanuts. Re: Porter Davis and Paint 19Apr 10, 2010 5:20 am Take this advice When you sign with you're builder ask for the specification they will be using in the contract for painting. This will tell you what paint brand, how many coats, the specific paint of the brand etc. Also typically when you ask for feature walls etc in volume homes you do get socked alittle bit as the painters trying to make alittle extra money on a job the builders already squeezed him on, generally $180 is about right however a professional company will charge single walls at $10 per sq/m. You're specification should allow for the choice of paint colours from a standard pallette. Theres nothing wrong with wattly paints wattly like every other paint manufacturer manufacture different standards of paint quality, problem is most volume builders use a trade line of paints. (lets call them economical) . Re: Porter Davis and Paint 20Apr 10, 2010 5:28 am And to upgrade to a premium paint .....hear alarm bells if your being charged more then appx $500.00, remember you're not buying the entire paint for the home of a better quality, you're just "upgrading", the differance between a trade line and a premium paint is at worst $60 a drum for the painter, and the painters NOT gonna buy more then 10 drums of premium paint, if anything $500 should get u a premium ceiling flat, premium low sheen (wall paint) premium gloss and undercoat aswell etc. When my company were doing volume homes we as standard charged $600.00 + gst (not for cash tax invoice supplied) to upgrade to a premium sealer, premium trim and door undercoats, premium low sheen and premium ceiling flat. in other words all paints where upgraded. and as a company we'd profit maybe $100.00 for upgrading and the cost would come at around $500. we where constantly doing large 6 bedroom homes so...... Remember theres no more labor in using premium paints. Three options 1 Ask the liquidator 2 Find another PD customer and ask the source of their report 3 Pay for new report 3 12182 Thankyou so much 😀 I've decided on White on white for doors and trims, White on white 50% on ceiling and Mt buller for walls. Fingers crossed it will look OK 😀 2 7079 Thank you. That is really helpful. Once we get the place done and passed for OC we can upgrade in the future once we get back on our feet and not paying mortgage and rent. 4 5701 |