Browse Forums General Discussion 1 Mar 12, 2010 11:22 am Our estate is brand new and there are new houses built that look 20 years old. You kind of lose that feeling of driving through a nice new estate and all the nice new looking houses. Is it just my estate or does this often happen Re: New estates.. building old looking houses 2Mar 12, 2010 11:30 am it happens. people have different taste and people like that stuff. To give you an idea i have built my own house. Some things I am not quiet happy with. But when people come over the go how nice is that. I am like wtf. Then when i show them something I like they would say why did you choose that color etc. Re: New estates.. building old looking houses 4Mar 12, 2010 11:35 am Depends on the estate and their covenants, for us at Sandarra all houses must submit their plans to the Design Assessment Panel which is run by the estate administrators. All house designs need to meet the convenant which includes design guidelines in terms of design style etc which helps to rule out any really out there designs or federation/victorian style homes in amongst the rest of the modern styled houses. That said covenants come down to whether they can be enforced, once in place its less likely but at least for us this process at the start makes it less likely that someone will build something which doesn't meet the covenant. Our Build - Places Fairhaven 23+ - https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=28045 Our Landscaping - Belial's Backyard - https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=45375 Re: New estates.. building old looking houses 5Mar 12, 2010 12:07 pm Actually I prefer a bit of variety in housing. We visited some display homes recently in an estate with heavy restrictive covenants and I found the whole place rather bland. All the houses essentially looked the same - same colours, same elevations (each rendered with either a portico or blade wall), even the same style of front garden. All too cookie cutter for my taste. Re: New estates.. building old looking houses 6Mar 12, 2010 12:44 pm Quote: Our estate is brand new and there are new houses built that look 20 years old. You kind of lose that feeling of driving through a nice new estate and all the nice new looking houses. hehehe, like my house you mean? But not everyone wants an ultra modern looking house I agree with zircon; variety is good - and yes, sad fact of life, we do have to accept that other people can build houses that aren't to our own taste (within the covenants. council rules etc) Re: New estates.. building old looking houses 7Mar 12, 2010 12:54 pm yeah same thing in our estate, you got to love the "no house with same frontage". We have these ugly awning rentals built in the street by the same developer all lined up one after the other with maybe different guttering colour. It's disgraceful, makes me really furious. We followed the rules!!! Moved In!!! Next up Landscaping! Our Build thread https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=29127 Re: New estates.. building old looking houses 8Mar 12, 2010 11:33 pm Yeah same with the estate we're building in... they say when you purchase the land that they are extremely strict with their covenants and the design team will knock you back etc but going for a drive through it now - you can see how everyone's interpretations of "modern Australian" differ. Not that it's a bad thing... I guess it's more noticeable now especially when everything is so new and there are barely any developed gardens! My mum thinks that estates that must all look the same remind her of the old commission areas but my mum's house is all period style and the estate that we have bought into (and most these days) do not allow houses to be built out of weatherboard... so i think because she doesn't like modern houses those areas don't appeal to her! But how boring would the world be if everyone had the same house Sleven Moved into our Atlantique MkII 36 by Carlisle Homes Re: New estates.. building old looking houses 9Mar 13, 2010 7:48 am I totally agree that it would be boring if all houses looked the same, a bit of individuality is great! I love stuff like bright red doors etc Our estate (our street paticularly) some a$$hole has built like 4 sets of 3 houses in a row all period style and they look exactly the same it really makes me mad to see them all lined up one after the other like little clone houses, its just not right. Oh and they are all rentals Moved In!!! Next up Landscaping! Our Build thread https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=29127 Re: New estates.. building old looking houses 10Mar 13, 2010 9:50 am There seems to be 2 different themes here: a) people dont approve of traditional style houses in new estates (dont shoot me, I built a cottage style house with a bullnose verandah ) and b) they dont approve of x number of houses all being the same. So Inamet - your problem is that the houses are all the same or that they are period style or both of the above?? Re: New estates.. building old looking houses 11Mar 13, 2010 5:50 pm Sorry I think I just saw this and jumped in to have a whinge But I dont have a real problem with old style homes - I dont like them and would prefer they are not on a modern street, but I think its unfair to tell someone what kind of house they can and cant have. Theres enough of that done anyway!! But my real issue is when there are 3-4 in a row 90% of the estate are modern, it just looks rediculous and its not right when the rules are that no house frontage can be exactly the same. Moved In!!! Next up Landscaping! Our Build thread https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=29127 Re: New estates.. building old looking houses 12Mar 13, 2010 8:14 pm I don't think Mrs P's original point had anything to do with period-style houses: Mrs P Our estate is brand new and there are new houses built that look 20 years old. You kind of lose that feeling of driving through a nice new estate and all the nice new looking houses. 20 years old is hardly period-style. I may be wrong, but I think the issue is that these particular houses look out-dated as soon as they're built? Like a certain shade of orange brick that screams 1970s to me - I can't imagine why anyone would choose something that makes their house look old-fashioned (as opposed to period-style, which I also don't like, but that's a matter of personal taste ). If I wanted a 1980s style house, I'd have kept my old place. That was a totally random thought... I'm going now. Re: New estates.. building old looking houses 13Mar 13, 2010 8:21 pm It's all someone's interpretation isn't it? One person might think their brand new house looks lovely and the next person is sniffing that it looks 20 years old and is lowering the tone of the nice new estate. How does one define "nice new looking houses" anyway? If it was built in the last year, it's new! Re: New estates.. building old looking houses 14Mar 13, 2010 8:27 pm I have nothing against people opting to build certain style houses. There are lots of different styles throughout our estate and they are all nice. There are just two houses in particular that look terribly run down. We were told about strict building guidelines and I was surprised to see these couple of houses because they certainly don't look like they fit the guidelines. Re: New estates.. building old looking houses 15Mar 14, 2010 8:19 am Ring the developer, Mrs P ....they may not be able to do anything (or might not give a rat's anyway ), but if the houses don't comply with the covenants, you have every right to complain. I'm sure that sometimes people lodge plans that comply, and then once consruction starts, just change things to suit themselves, or to save a few $$. If the developer isn't doing regular audits, they'd never know. I'm still not sure how they get away with it. Our builder had to re-lodge our plans, simply because our bricks were discontinued and we'd chosen new ones, which were almost identical to the old ones anyway. But there was a variation to what was previously approved, and the plans and species had to go back to the developer before construction could begin. It was no big deal, approval only took a couple of days - but I'm guessing that some builders or owners simply bypass the variation approval process. It annoys me no end when I see red fake brick driveways or cheap temporary letterboxes, or facades with no render or paint to be seen - all of which breach the covenants. And don't get me started on the ONE house with a beige roof, when every other is dark grey. It isn't just about interpretation or personal taste. You sign a contract agreeing to abide by the loooooong list of restrictive covenants that apply to the land. So if someone doesn't like the restrictions, they can go buy land somewhere else where they're free to build whatever they like and leave the rest of us to enjoy our lovely neighbourhood. Re: New estates.. building old looking houses 16Mar 14, 2010 10:58 am kek I remember speaking to a neighbour in our old estate and what they had to go through when they built their house to get it aproved. Very strict. Covenants are there to protect everyones investments Re: New estates.. building old looking houses 17Mar 14, 2010 12:20 pm kek It isn't just about interpretation or personal taste. You sign a contract agreeing to abide by the loooooong list of restrictive covenants that apply to the land. So if someone doesn't like the restrictions, they can go buy land somewhere else where they're free to build whatever they like and leave the rest of us to enjoy our lovely neighbourhood. TOTALLY AGREE It's always the minority that ruin it for the majority!!! Sleven Moved into our Atlantique MkII 36 by Carlisle Homes Re: New estates.. building old looking houses 18Mar 14, 2010 12:33 pm Quote: Our estate is brand new and there are new houses built that look 20 years old Rather than looking 20years old, I'd say these houses are probably just very basic... after all, not all new home builders can afford to tick every box on extras list. I guess it's important to remember that no matter how nice your home, there's always going to be someone who thinks it looks like a big piece of crap And I don't think it matters what estate you were to build in, as there's always going to be houses you don't like; if you like your own, then that's all that should matter As far as covenants go surely we all have a bit of common sense here to realise that unless they stipulate you can ONLY build a house ONE particular way, that there will always be a bit of variation in what people build. If you look at your estate covenants and what they set out, then compare that to the houses built that aren't to you taste, you'd likely find they actually comply with the covenants guidelines. Re: New estates.. building old looking houses 19Mar 14, 2010 4:39 pm IkonInteriors Quote: Our estate is brand new and there are new houses built that look 20 years old Sorry, I dont think posting pics of other people's houses - especially when you have just said how much you dislike them - is a very good idea Re: New estates.. building old looking houses 20Mar 14, 2010 4:51 pm IkonInteriors As far as covenants go surely we all have a bit of common sense here to realise that unless they stipulate you can ONLY build a house ONE particular way, that there will always be a bit of variation in what people build. If you look at your estate covenants and what they set out, then compare that to the houses built that aren't to you taste, you'd likely find they actually comply with the covenants guidelines. Not at all... if the house complies with the covenants, it can still be ugly and tasteless - but that's a whole other thing. It doesn't take a genius to understand that pale, pale beige is NOT the same as dark grey. The setback from the kerb is 4m. It is council land to provide an area for services like sewer main, gas mains, water mains, underground power or poles for overhead power,… 4 2396 Thanks for the response! However, it's have been sorted. But for others benefit here is what we had to do. Unfortunately, it's not straightforward. BCC washed their hands… 3 7205 Is it possible to render an old corrugated iron shed.I have heard that it can be done if it is covered with chicken wire first.Not sure of the ratio of the render mix and… 0 4896 |