Browse Forums General Discussion Re: Help with paint question 3Aug 27, 2007 3:47 pm Probably poor preparation of the surface (loose dust, cornice cement not cured etc) or it's simply a lack of applying a suitable sealer/binder to save time when painting.
Either way, unless you taped the paint within a few days of it being applied, it should not come off. In June this year (in winter = longer drying time) I painted one wall, taped it the next day to paint the adjacent feature wall, and never had that prob. Re: Help with paint question 4Aug 27, 2007 3:55 pm Our handover was in mid-June so the paint has been there for at least 2 months!
Looks like the quality of work has been very poor. We also used an edge painter on one of the walls, and the little wheels moving against the cornice caused some paint to fall off as well. Grrrr... not sure if we have any recourse to the builder. There is a maintenance period of 6 months, but if they say it's our own fault, I'm not sure if there's anything we can do... Re: Help with paint question 5Aug 27, 2007 4:14 pm How bad is the damage and how big is the area to be fixed?
May be it's much cheaper and quicker to fix it yourself if it's only a small area... Re: Help with paint question 6Aug 27, 2007 4:57 pm If it was 2 months after application that it occurred, then it's definately a substrate issue - which is either one of the 2 things I noted above:
1. Poor prep (dust/dirt etc) 2. Lack of proper sealer/binder coats & poor quality paint. Re: Help with paint question 7Aug 27, 2007 5:06 pm Thanks guys
I'll try to talk to my builder again, and tell them that I got the opinion of some experienced friends Hopefully they will be willing to fix it and otherwise we'll have to give it a go. The area is an average size bathroom and the damage is pretty much all around the cornice. It is just terrible that this happened after our first paint experience... and we have the whole house to go, sigh! Re: Help with paint question 8Aug 27, 2007 6:44 pm scoofy Our handover was in mid-June so the paint has been there for at least 2 months! Looks like the quality of work has been very poor. We also used an edge painter on one of the walls, and the little wheels moving against the cornice caused some paint to fall off as well. Grrrr... not sure if we have any recourse to the builder. There is a maintenance period of 6 months, but if they say it's our own fault, I'm not sure if there's anything we can do... If the paint is coming off just from the wheels of a edge painter then this is very poor indeed. As commodorenut mentioned it either a dirty surface or incorect paint. Get them to fix it, it certainly is not your fault. Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: Help with paint question 9Aug 27, 2007 6:53 pm Yep - poor paint job - I suspect the painter went - OK I'm only doing half the job - quick and dirty and they don't have a leg to stand on.
See if you can get an experts opinion to look at it and see of why the paint is comming off. Steve Re: Help with paint question 11Aug 28, 2007 12:18 pm Also tell your builder you got everything published on the Internet...
Just have a look at your photo, that was indeed quite unprofessional... Now I got one more thing to check/worry about my construction... Re: Help with paint question 12Aug 28, 2007 12:45 pm Most builders just use a spray gun and so the painter just gets the job done as quick as possible. Cheap paint is also more likely.
We had a similar problem. We switched to different types of masking tape, initially a blue tape and then a purple tape (both quite expensive). They were expensive but they pretty much did the trick provided we were careful not to just rip the tape off after. Another thing to do is run a blade where the tape and new paint intersect to break any link. Good luck getting the builder to fix it, I doubt they will and even if they do, they will likely deliberately do a bad job. They have their money and you are now just a difficult customer. Re: Help with paint question 13Aug 30, 2007 7:58 pm I feel for you……and to be perfectly honest……it may come back to the painter.
I NEVER mask! It really comes down to tools of the trade and what you use to do the job. When I’m doing a special paint job…….not just painting my terracotta pots. I use a very expensive paint brush, with long bristles and it has to be very soft! They are the best to cut in with. Did the painter leave the left over paint behind? He should have…..after all you paid for it! I would be taking it…..if you have it, to a paint shop to compare colours to the original colour you chose. Did he water it down????? There are only two GOOD reasons to your lifting. 1) Prep was very average. 2) The paint has no substance to it. If it turns out to be the later……good luck as time goes by with your paint work. I hope your builder comes through for you, if he does, ask to get the paint mixed yourself! Good luck! Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: Help with paint question 14Aug 31, 2007 10:09 am Hey Michelle,
Long time no see. Glad you're back. In our case, part of the problem was with painting squares on the wall and free hand was really just too hard even with the best brush I could find. You can see what I am referring to on our blog - hope you like lime green and yellow - no I'm not kidding ) One thing I did find is that there is a lot of difference in quality between the stuff the builders used and the stuff we brought. We had quite a lot of left over paint the the builders left us and we used some tint with some of that. That stuff peels off way too easily. I think builders quite often go with the cheap stuff because they know that they can get away with it. Not sure what we can do about it. Keep posting. Re: Help with paint question 15Aug 31, 2007 10:17 am 3xb…….very correct, SOME builders and painters are guilty of this, it also keeps your quote down slightly when they do this…..(MAYBE)
That’s why I always tell my clients to insist on good quality paints…and to make sure you LOOK at the paint tins while they are being used. I personally told my painter not to bring any other brand of paint to my home unless it was Dulux, OR he spoke to me first about whatever reason he couldn’t use Dulux. I hate to say, but they ALL need KEEPING an eye on! Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Builder reply 16Aug 31, 2007 1:28 pm Hi All,
I finally managed to speak with the maintenance supervisor. I explained the situation and he said, why would you put masking tape on a cornice? He said he never puts tape on a cornice and doesn’t know anyone who does. I then replied saying that we used a good quality blue tape and that the tape is designed to be put over paint, and that I suspected no primer had been applied. He said that the cornice is plasterboard, and that they would have applied a white water-based sealer and 2 coats of flat white water-based ceiling paint. He also said most likely our tape wasn’t suitable for water-based paints. He mentioned he would check with their registered painter to see what he thought. Could any of the more experienced members give their opinion on this? I’m not very happy with his reply and according to one of my workmates the paint shouldn’t come off this easily if it has been primed. Michelle, no paint has been left behind by the builder but they use Solver paints. Thanks Scoofy Re: Help with paint question 17Aug 31, 2007 1:33 pm Solver paints……..I want touch it! Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: Help with paint question 18Sep 13, 2007 3:40 pm Personally, I've had no problems with any of the cheaper paints. We recently painted our lounge room using British Paints and it turned out a treat. Not only this, but despite being a 'flat' paint, marks are easily gotten rid off. We masked the ceiling when we did the walls and no paint came off what so ever. We did prime properly, though and I've every doubt that your builder's painter did not do this.
We bought a brand new house a couple of years ago (biggest mistake of our lives) and everything was done poorly, from the plumbing to the cabinets, to the paint. The most obvious, of course, was the paint, which had oversprayed onto tiles etc. If I were to build a house again, I'd keep all of the tradespeople on a tight leash and probably either paint the house myself or hire a painter independently of the builder. I simply do not trust builders to engage the services of a good painter... DIY, Home Maintenance & Repair Peeling paint on your house exterior, whether it's siding, stucco, or another material, can stem from several factors. Common… 1 8663 DIY, Home Maintenance & Repair Hi, thought I'd repaint the inside of my house as the paint is cracking in some areas and comes off easily in some spots but other spots require a little more effort.… 0 5885 DIY, Home Maintenance & Repair Hi there, I just recently received my new house from my builder. We handed the house to another company to deal with the… 0 21643 |