Browse Forums General Discussion 1 Mar 01, 2010 3:25 pm Hi, I'm new to the forum, hoping to get some good advice. I'm planning to build an outdoor fire place which will intergrate into a brick wall. I'd also like to incorperate some stone work into it. I'm not very familiar with the stone type products on the market now and how they would hadle a fire/ heat application. Should I avoid stone cladding? Will the adhesive be effected by the heat, expansion and contraction? Any advice and suggestions would be appreciated. Re: Outdoor fire place and materials 2Mar 01, 2010 4:14 pm Mantas if you find out any details from elsewhere while researching this please post what you find out as i would be interested in doing this as well. Re: Outdoor fire place and materials 3Mar 01, 2010 5:09 pm Check with your local council before going too far ahead as you may find what it is you are intending to build is not legal. There are very strict laws in regards to any type of burning off on private property. Re: Outdoor fire place and materials 4Mar 01, 2010 5:22 pm klscomps may well be correct if you are in a suburban area and of course even if you are not there may well be fire restrictions. Re: Outdoor fire place and materials 5Mar 02, 2010 5:53 am Yeah, I will definitely check with council. As far as I know we are not affected by the new fire set back laws. I live on a suburban lot right on the coast in Port Stephens (the rain capital of NSW). We are subject to total fire bans on certain days but that's about it. Re: Outdoor fire place and materials 6Mar 02, 2010 8:41 am Hi Mantas, it is not actually to do with any new fire regulations. These laws have been in force for many years and have more to do with pollution related issues. They came into force years ago when people used to have backyard incinerators etc. I would be very surprised if there are any councils around who don't enforce them. They relate to all sized blocks - not just acreage. Make sure you clear it with council exactly what you intend building as I know the fine with our council is $1,000 for your first offence and gets more serious if you are caught a second time. Those on acreage in our shire have to obtain a permit if they wish to have a burn off and there are very strict conditions attached to the permits. If I was in your situation I would speak to council and if it seems possible put it in writing with a draft of your proposed build so that you are covered if there is any discrepancy down the track. Re: Outdoor fire place and materials 7Mar 02, 2010 9:27 am I think what he intends to build is an outdoor fireplace incorporated into a brick wall (a lot of display houses are doing this) and not an area to burn off material. I'm interested in hearing the outcome of this also. Sorry for not being of any help ---------------------------------------- Building the PD Lisbon 24 http://www.porterdavis.com.au/#homeviewer/lisbon/24 Blog of our progress. http://lisbon24.blogspot.com/ Homeone build thread https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=28665 Re: Outdoor fire place and materials 8Mar 02, 2010 12:24 pm Have done some outdoor pizza ovens, one of them was built into a wall. With a bit of modification you could use as fire place. If interested i'll post a link later Landscape Design & Construction http://cherub.squarespace.com/ Re: Outdoor fire place and materials 9Mar 02, 2010 12:39 pm Oooh, yes please. I'm interested. We're planning a pizza oven and wood fired BBQ. We're also wondering about using some sort of stone cladding and wondering how it will hold up to the heat. 'chelle We have a hand-over date...15/10...but I won't hold my breath! http://people-in-glass-houses.blogspot.com/ Re: Outdoor fire place and materials 10Mar 02, 2010 6:12 pm A lot of my 'research' is net based at the moment, I haven't really spoken to anyone yet (welcome to 2010) Basically I'm fishing for ideas and advice. i have noticed that a lot of these out door fire places are enclosed. Basically an indoor set up transtered out doors. I'm wondering if this is to avoid any issues with councils, safety, compliance ect. I was thinking of a pizza oven too. My chef mate all but talked me out of it today. It seems like a lot of work to cook a pizza. Novel idea though if you could be bothered. I think I'd rather crack a beer around my fire and order one at our local wood fired pizza shop. BTW. I appreciate the feed back. Re: Outdoor fire place and materials 11Mar 03, 2010 10:38 am The other thing that I have noticed is that alot of the display home "open fires" are the simulated gas fireplaces. (funny when they also have a wood stack next to it) I'm interested to see the outcome if the council has issues, as you don't need a permit to put in a Coonara or similar as far as I'm aware. As far as materials are concerned, my experiance is from bush camping and bush huts, where they usually use solid bricks for their fireplaces. Some people don't have time to do the job right the first time, but seem to have plenty of time to fix their mistakes. Build Thread Re: Outdoor fire place and materials 12Mar 05, 2010 5:45 am Heres a link to some photos of pizza ovens, There is also a downloadable plan for one of them https://cherub.squarespace.com/pizza-ovens/ Landscape Design & Construction http://cherub.squarespace.com/ Re: Outdoor fire place and materials 13Mar 06, 2010 10:21 am Thanks for that cherub. Great diagrams, I didn't realize they were so big. Seems like a lot of work and I'm not sure that I'm serious enough about my pizzas for that. I have ruled out stone cladding on the fire place itself, I'm sure the adhesive won't handle the heat. I think I'll go with a rendered brick fire place and chimney with block work and stone cladding on the adjacent walls. Also looks like trip to council which I was hoping to avoid. That's a fantastic result! Happy you got it sorted out. cheers Simeon 6 8646 in the stormwater pit or the drain? Those dont look like theyd fit in the drain. Separately, the pits do get stuff in them during the course of the build. For the most… 1 7942 We are tossing up between a Jarrahdale radiant wood fire (the Pioneer) and a convection wood fire (Innovator or Countryman) but cannot decide on which type of wood fire is… 0 5254 |