Browse Forums General Discussion Re: Termite Protection with Blue frame 2Nov 17, 2009 7:30 pm Yep, we have a blue frame, it is treated pine. It was standard for our house. I have seen many more frames though that haven't been treated, so I assume it is an upgrade, or maybe not even an option with many builders We also have a kordon barrier around the slab. There are many types of termite protection, these are just a couple. buzz Re: Termite Protection with Blue frame 4Nov 18, 2009 4:14 pm Technically its not treated pine rather termite treated framing. The treatment level is H2-F or H2-S and mostly sold under the names T2 or Terminator framing among others. It is NOT treated against fungal rot and decay and is only suitable for internal usage. It is treated with Bifenthrin (same chemical used in ant sand) and applied in a linseed oil mix. The framing comes with a 25 year guarantee (transferrable) against infestation. The guarentee is provided by the chemical manufacturer - not the timber supplier or manufacturer. It is only around 10% dearer than regular pine framing so foe for a small outlay is a good investment. Some councils don't require any other termite barrier if using all termite treated products (particle board flooring for example is also available termite treated) Re: Termite Protection with Blue frame 6Nov 18, 2009 7:33 pm Our neighbours told us their house is full of termites, so we opted for the treated timber upgrade. It is about $2500 for us. But worth it if we plan on being here for a while! We'll also have the standard termite barriers in place. Kristi Living the dream. 4 horsey acres in the country. What's the next project??? Re: Termite Protection with Blue frame 7Jun 03, 2010 12:45 am With the treated timbers, is that something that can be harmful to kids or pets? I have a couple cats who tend to scratch at things like that, and if it were exposed on the outside of the house, they would surely get at it. Re: Termite Protection with Blue frame 8Jun 03, 2010 9:13 am Or there is the other type of blue frame ... Bluescope Steel Some people don't have time to do the job right the first time, but seem to have plenty of time to fix their mistakes. Build Thread Re: Termite Protection with Blue frame 9Jun 18, 2010 8:22 pm rserpkin With the treated timbers, is that something that can be harmful to kids or pets? I have a couple cats who tend to scratch at things like that, and if it were exposed on the outside of the house, they would surely get at it. It can only be used internally hidden inside your walls. The chemical is housed in linseed oil making it safe for handling etc. Re: Termite Protection with Blue frame 10Jun 20, 2010 9:28 pm Four our build the were basically 3 choices.. normal, the blue frame or steel. I've had termites before and HATE them. We went with steel Built Liberty 42 - Handover 26th Feb 2010 forum thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=17243 Re: Termite Protection with Blue frame 11Jun 20, 2010 10:52 pm If the termite protection is a coating of chemical and linseed oil can anyone explain what happens to the ends that are exposed when cut before the frame is erected? Are the exposed ends coated as well after cutting? Re: Termite Protection with Blue frame 12Jun 21, 2010 12:28 pm When the H2S product was first released on the market, there was a release from the CSIRO (who conducted all the testing) stating that unlike H3-H6 treated pine, resealing of cut ends is not necessary. To me this makes sense as the resealing of treated pine outdoors is to stop it rotting, not vermin. I guess there is enough penetration of the chemical as well as the fact at some point not far into a frame you will have to cross through a sealed face. Re: Termite Protection with Blue frame 13Jun 21, 2010 8:46 pm I believe "blue" H2-F is an envelope treatment (only a coating on the exterior of the timber) applied by dipping the timber in the treatment solution, and although the CCH website says the cut ends don't need to be resealed I have been told numerous times by other sources that they do. The "red" H@ (or H2-S, the S refering to "only to be used south of the Tropic of Capricorn") treatment has the permethrin imprgnated into the timber by putting the timber and permethrin (in a solution of solvent, LOSP) in a pressure vessel which forces the chemical solution into the timber. I believe this "red" treatment to be the better of the 2, although I am by no means an expert (just a broken backed mechanic who spent a lot of time fixing forklifts at a timber treatment plant). Have a look at the following websites for reference - http://www.chhwoodproducts.com.au/laserframeterminatorred/ http://www.chhwoodproducts.com.au/laserframeterminatorblue/ By the way, I used predominately red on my owner builder project, about 10% dearer than the blue, which was about 10% dearer than the plain timber. Peter H Re: Termite Protection with Blue frame 14Jun 21, 2010 9:22 pm The red H2-S is produced for use north of the Tropic of Capricorn, the blue H2-S for south of it. If the unsealed cut ends was an issue, why would they offer a 25 year guarentee? Even though yes, it is an envolope treatment (as is H2 and H3 LOSP) penetration of a few millimetres is still achieved. Re: Termite Protection with Blue frame 15Jun 22, 2010 6:24 pm Hi Guys, Thanks for all the input. The blue was recommended by a scientist friend who is known world wide and his expertise is in timber eg termites, borer etc. so I say go for blue if you want protection from the little blighters. Re: Termite Protection with Blue frame 16Jun 22, 2010 6:52 pm For the minimal extra exspense its worth it Re: Termite Protection with Blue frame 17Jun 23, 2010 8:57 am Does anyone know how well the treatment on the blue timber survives with the frame exposed to the wind and rain for 6 weeks, including bottom plates sitting in puddles of water? Re: Termite Protection with Blue frame 18Jun 23, 2010 4:37 pm It is no different in that regard to normal untreated pine framing. Thats probably the single biggest issue as far as confusion goes with this product - it is only treated against termite infestation, not fungal rot/decay Re: Termite Protection with Blue frame 19Jun 23, 2010 4:51 pm Richo Or there is the other type of blue frame ... Bluescope Steel I'd recommend against steel if you are in bushfire zones - unlike wood which just burns, the steel softens and warps under the heat of fire and then the roof collapses a lot quicker. I know firies here in WA aren't big fans. Yes, neither is termite damage that is not covered by your house insurance. 3 6586 This is 100% true. You can not hang anything on steel frames. very frustrating 8 8023 |