Browse Forums General Discussion 1 Sep 26, 2009 7:26 pm I have my colours appointment on Monday and this is my last chance to change anything on the plans (within outside walls). The first pic is of my plan that I have altered slightly. http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq129/EljayC/revisedfloorplanSept09.jpg The second pic is of the current plan and I have marked where I have done the alterations. http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq129/EljayC/PlansSept09.jpg Changes are: Squared off the kitchen bench Reversed the small linen cupboard so now it faces into the kitchen and it will be a back up pantry And I have opened up the rumpus/family area. Please let me know what you think. If you can see anything else in there that you think I should really change, please let me know and I'll have a look at it. The only other thing I can think about is maybe swapping the ensuite sink and shower over. So Sink will be near window and shower in front of door. Thanks EDIT: Have added the option - New revised plan, but keep rumpus seperate Deposits paid 29/4/09 Land settlement 12/08/09 Build contract signed 24/08/09 Colours done 28/09/09 BLOG-http://www.eljaysbuild.blogspot.com/ Re: Poll: Plan changes, let me know what you think :) 2Sep 26, 2009 8:16 pm I only preferred the new plan because of the squared kitchen change. The curved one that you had previously is so outdated (in my opinion), but there are some exceptions. Think joles and kek's kitchens with the curve.. really nice. I think in your design, your much better off doing a square finish. For me, personally the rumpus opening is WAY too open now. This is a major problem for furniture placement, privacy and zoning. To me Im finding it difficult as to where your TV and couches could possibly go in that rumpus, its now become very unworkable, especially with the windows there too. The dining now also doesnt have its own distinct feel - as in the dining doesnt occupy its own space.. its shared with the family room. Do you get what Im saying? If I were you, I would slide the linen/extra pantry to the right, hence move the hallway opening to the right. The current placement of the opening to minor bedrooms is horrible.. this is pretty much where the dining table will be. Very inconvenient. Hope that helps. Re: Poll: Plan changes, let me know what you think :) 3Sep 26, 2009 8:22 pm Salt&PepperMkII I only preferred the new plan because of the squared kitchen change. The curved one that you had previously is so outdated (in my opinion), but there are some exceptions. Think joles and kek's kitchens with the curve.. really nice. I think in your design, your much better off doing a square finish. For me, personally the rumpus opening is WAY too open now. This is a major problem for furniture placement, privacy and zoning. To me Im finding it difficult as to where your TV and couches could possibly go in that rumpus, its now become very unworkable, especially with the windows there too. The dining now also doesnt have its own distinct feel - as in the dining doesnt occupy its own space.. its shared with the family room. Do you get what Im saying? If I were you, I would slide the linen/extra pantry to the right, hence move the hallway opening to the right. The current placement of the opening to minor bedrooms is horrible.. this is pretty much where the dining table will be. Very inconvenient. Hope that helps. Ditto Kitchen change - good! Rumpus/family openness - way too open. I am all for open floor plans, but if it becomes too open then its just a huge sapce that is hard to work with. I prefer to have rooms with the option of separating them if needed, ie. double doors or something. Think about if you have kids that want to watch different movies (that's how I make all my decisions! ) Caz & Co ALL MOVED IN!! Now comes all the hard work-decorating.... [b]Blog: http://cazoraz.blogspot.com/ Settling in Thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=36993 Re: Poll: Plan changes, let me know what you think :) 4Sep 26, 2009 8:30 pm Agree with the others. Love the kitchen change, so much more modern, but the rumpus, I would possibly, if in your budget, have cavity sliders so you can either have it open as one big room, or closed off. Re: Poll: Plan changes, let me know what you think :) 5Sep 26, 2009 8:49 pm I put the entrance to the secondary bedrooms there, because I don't think that the "meals" area is big enough to have a dining table there anyway?! I don't know. I've never seen my house, I'm working on plans only here, I've never seen a display home of it. But going on measurements, I doubt that I'd be able to fit a dining table into the meals area then have a couch or whatever in the family part? Am I on the right track?? I don't know. Hard to visualise as I've never seen it. My plan was to have the dining table in the "family" area. I'd be spending most of my time in the rumpus room. I asked about putting in cavity sliders in the opening to the rumpus room and they said the widest they could go is 2x820, the same as what I have on the study & theatre room. I didn't think this was wide enough. I agree, I like to seperate them...but thought I should open it up more because it is a fairly small family/meals area. I'm just so confused! Deposits paid 29/4/09 Land settlement 12/08/09 Build contract signed 24/08/09 Colours done 28/09/09 BLOG-http://www.eljaysbuild.blogspot.com/ Re: Poll: Plan changes, let me know what you think :) 6Sep 26, 2009 9:38 pm I know what you mean Ejay you go cross-eye looking a your plans after a while, I would def keep you ensuite vanity where it is we had this placement in our last place and it works well, plus it looks better looking a vanity unit instead of shower when the door is open. I agree with how you opened up the rumpus I would be putting my table opposite the kitchen instead of the corner as well, as you will use it so much more. If you need spot for the tv you could make the gap between the two rear windows wider, that way you can see the tv from the kitchen. All I would add is a cavity slider between the family & minor rooms 2 reason great for zoning aircon & the other give the minor room some privacy & noise reduction. Good luck, Cheers Lou http://take2-customdesigndownslope.blogspot.com 07-10-09 omg they have cut the block 14-05-10 we finally have the keys Re: Poll: Plan changes, let me know what you think :) 7Sep 26, 2009 9:54 pm I dont think the kitchen change is a big deal: its such a small change, just haveing it squared off on the corner instead of angled - personal preference only, doesnt change function of house at all I think the entry to minor bedroom area is fine where it is, as you say, you would probably put dining table nearer the other end anyway, in what the plan calls "family" , and then you could probably fit a small couch or a desk or a buffet in the "meals" section. I understand the advantages of being able to separate the rumpus room with double sliding or bifold doors but it really depends on what you intend to use the room for - you have a home theatre for TV which can be closed off so if you prefer an all open space area for casual liveing that would be fine. I am now going to contradict myself about the doors to close it off - I think you have to go all or nothing - either have it so doors close it or remove that wall altogether, right down to the linen press and have it as one large area, in which case I would do flooring same as family/meal/kitchen, it appears on plan to be carpet in there. Does that make sense? Re: Poll: Plan changes, let me know what you think :) 9Sep 27, 2009 1:07 am I would personally move the door from the garage so you arrive into the foyer, not the hall.... Prefer the square kitchen bench. I too prefer more separate rooms, good for hiding mess! Re: Poll: Plan changes, let me know what you think :) 10Sep 27, 2009 1:28 am CarolineJ I would personally move the door from the garage so you arrive into the foyer, not the hall.... Prefer the square kitchen bench. I too prefer more separate rooms, good for hiding mess! I didn't even think about the garage door, hmmmm would you put it in the middle part of the foyer, or level to were it steps out into the hallway? Would make it closer to the light switch too. Anyone else second this? Thanks Deposits paid 29/4/09 Land settlement 12/08/09 Build contract signed 24/08/09 Colours done 28/09/09 BLOG-http://www.eljaysbuild.blogspot.com/ Re: Poll: Plan changes, let me know what you think :) 11Sep 27, 2009 1:36 am jaelee Hi, my two cents worth ... have you thought about a double entry front door? You have the room with a lovely entrance. Good luck. I have thought about it, but the single comes standard. With everything else costing so much (I now have to pay to get rendering), I don't think I can stretch the budget. But I will ask at colours on Monday. Thanks Deposits paid 29/4/09 Land settlement 12/08/09 Build contract signed 24/08/09 Colours done 28/09/09 BLOG-http://www.eljaysbuild.blogspot.com/ Re: Poll: Plan changes, let me know what you think :) 12Sep 27, 2009 2:32 am I agree with the others about the kitchen, and def leave the rumpus as is. I know you don't think it will fit a table there, but without the wall, the whole area looses purpose. I don't think i'd move the garage door or change the ensuite either! A thankful person is a happy person. [/color]My hobby design blog: http://aviewondesign.blogspot.com/ Re: Poll: Plan changes, let me know what you think :) 13Sep 27, 2009 7:58 am I like Helyns idea of taking the wall out all together and tiles instead of carpet. It will make it a lovely open plan area. I think you are right about not being able to fit a table and couches in that area. Have you measured it out on your floor at home? Or seen a room the same size in a different display house? You already have another living area (theatre) and for a house that size I dont think you need three. Re: Poll: Plan changes, let me know what you think :) 14Sep 27, 2009 8:09 am I'd also consider having a way to close off the study so that if it had to be used as an additional bedroom it could be or if you wanted to close off your study "mess". Re: Poll: Plan changes, let me know what you think :) 15Sep 27, 2009 9:46 am Annietom I agree with the others about the kitchen, and def leave the rumpus as is. I know you don't think it will fit a table there, but without the wall, the whole area looses purpose. I don't think i'd move the garage door or change the ensuite either! Kitchen change is a def, still confused about that wall. I just love open areas after having my last house that was so small and pokie and all I wanted to do was rip out some walls lol I want it open but also want to close it off if I need to (because of dog) I think I'm leaning towards leaving the wall there now. Ari Have you measured it out on your floor at home? Or seen a room the same size in a different display house? You already have another living area (theatre) and for a house that size I dont think you need three. I have tried to measure it out in the house I'm in at the moment, I don't think the area is to small..its not large either. I think my plan is to basically live in the rumpus area (I'm on my own), have the dining table in the "family" area and in the corner where it has "meals" put a small corner unit there with a small tv so I can watch from the kitchen. I put the theatre in the plans with Cavity sliding doors more for resale later on. I probably will only use it for either a more formal dining room or a ironing room. So would you suggest getting rid of the theatre room altogether? kexkez I'd also consider having a way to close off the study so that if it had to be used as an additional bedroom it could be or if you wanted to close off your study "mess". Yep Have cavity sliding doors on the study and the theatre. All of them can be closed off. Have a cavity slider between the kitchen and hall where the theatre is and also another one leading into the the other bedrooms & bathroom. Deposits paid 29/4/09 Land settlement 12/08/09 Build contract signed 24/08/09 Colours done 28/09/09 BLOG-http://www.eljaysbuild.blogspot.com/ Re: Poll: Plan changes, let me know what you think :) 16Sep 27, 2009 12:22 pm The only thing I can add is re the ensuite layout: whatever you do in there, make sure you have space for towel rails, shelves or whatever else you may want to add. You often see bathrooms with nowhere to put a towel rail, or where the only large enough space is miles away from the shower. Re: Poll: Plan changes, let me know what you think :) 17Sep 27, 2009 12:51 pm I am going to go completely against the grain here with the kitchen. I would keep it as the curved corner for one simple reason... safety. It is curved for a reason, it is a high traffic area where you cut the corner.... draw a line of walking paths.... coming down the hallway into the rumpus or to go to the sliding door off the meals, the natural path is to cut that corner. If it was me, I'd hit my hip 9 times out of 10 as I came around that corner (I am really clumsy). Not such a bid deal for an adult. But if you are ever going to have kids in the house, especially toddlers, it is a nasty accident waiting to happen as the bench corner is eye level. If the natural traffic flow was straight past the bench it wouldn't be a problem, but from your plan the flow is around the bench. Just another perspective. I leave you to fend for yourself, figure things out yourself. Terrence Malick Re: Poll: Plan changes, let me know what you think :) 18Sep 27, 2009 2:35 pm joles I am going to go completely against the grain here with the kitchen. I would keep it as the curved corner for one simple reason... safety. It is curved for a reason, it is a high traffic area where you cut the corner.... draw a line of walking paths.... coming down the hallway into the rumpus or to go to the sliding door off the meals, the natural path is to cut that corner. If it was me, I'd hit my hip 9 times out of 10 as I came around that corner (I am really clumsy). Not such a bid deal for an adult. But if you are ever going to have kids in the house, especially toddlers, it is a nasty accident waiting to happen as the bench corner is eye level. If the natural traffic flow was straight past the bench it wouldn't be a problem, but from your plan the flow is around the bench. Just another perspective. Totally agree with Joles, nothing worse than sharp corners Building with Homebuyers Centre El Questro! My building thread..viewtopic.php?f=31&t=19421 Brickies started 5/10 Re: Poll: Plan changes, let me know what you think :) 19Sep 27, 2009 4:08 pm Eljay[quote="Ari Have you measured it out on your floor at home? Or seen a room the same size in a different display house? You already have another living area (theatre) and for a house that size I dont think you need three. I have tried to measure it out in the house I'm in at the moment, I don't think the area is to small..its not large either. I think my plan is to basically live in the rumpus area (I'm on my own), have the dining table in the "family" area and in the corner where it has "meals" put a small corner unit there with a small tv so I can watch from the kitchen. I put the theatre in the plans with Cavity sliding doors more for resale later on. I probably will only use it for either a more formal dining room or a ironing room. So would you suggest getting rid of the theatre room altogether? [/quote] No no no, dont get rid of the theatre. That's what I was calling the 2nd living area. I would live in the house exactly like you said...sofas, tv in the rumpus area and dining table in the "family" area. What I would do though is Helyn's suggestion of taking out the rumpus/family wall all the way back to the linen to open it right up. I dont think the family by itself is big enough for a decent size table and sofas, tv etc. Gosh do you regret asking? Everyones giving you different opinions! Do you have a Henley display centre near you? I know the "Living" in Henley's Monterey is about the same size as your "family" room. Re: Poll: Plan changes, let me know what you think :) 20Sep 27, 2009 5:38 pm I really like separate toilets. They're convenient, means someone taking a long shower doesn't stress out anyone else and the bathroom can retain a much cleaner feel. But... In this case the main bathroom is really very pokey and small for what is otherwise quite a spacious house. In fact I think it's alarmingly undersized. It's easy to see that by simply taking out the dividing wall, and squaring off the room with the main hallway you suddenly have a luxury sized bathroom. 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