Browse Forums General Discussion Re: Ducted Vaccum - Is It Worth It? 21Jul 06, 2009 2:55 pm Thanks everyone for your help!!!! Wendy The stumps are in the ground! Builder due back on site on 2 September 2009!! Building Due to start around the 1 August 2009 360 metre Driveway rocked and ready! Contracts Signed On 30 June 2009 Take one day at a time Re: Ducted Vaccum - Is It Worth It? 22Jul 06, 2009 4:33 pm Ducted vacuum systems have strengths and weaknesses. The thing is, each and every installation can and will have different performance levels. It all depends upon the design and how well it is engineered in each case. The greater the distance, and number of bends in the piping, the more frictional losses of airflow you have, so with a large 2 storey house, the furthest inlet may have very poor vacuum performance. Actually, most systems I've come across, don't have real great vauum or airflow. But there are a number of good points. Primarily, that the air is exhausted outside of the home (if designed properly) which helps with indoor air quality, by not recirculating fine allergens within the home. Also, they are generally quite user-friendly and convenient. They usually have short-comings with respect to vacuuming carpets, in that they lack the agitation that is required to remove embedded soiling. They are great for superficial vacuuming, but ideally, a good powerhead attachment would be used in conjunction with it, to improve deep soil recovery from carpets. IN SUMMARY, I reckon they are a great idea, as long as it is well engineered. Get a few quotes on your house design, and look carefully at the plans to see which design minimises bends, and has the shortest piping. Choose the options with the most powerful motors (ideally twin vac motors , with the highest 'air-watts' specifications). I'd tend to prefer bag-free vac canisters. And if you have much carpets, I'd suggest you get either a 'Turbo-cat' turbine brush attachment, or an electric powerhead attachment. Ash. Re: Ducted Vaccum - Is It Worth It? 23Jul 07, 2009 11:34 am bronco3429 stefnmick Install it before you plaster its so much easier. Also all ducted vacumes have 12 volts running to each outlet and if you get the right hose this can power the turbo head. Do you think its possible to install the ducted vaccum tube around in the walls where you need it to be, plaster, then install the hose connection points in BUT not purchase the system? We are thinking this might be an expense that we can put off. You can definitely install all the pipes ect and leave them in the walls until you buy a motor for it. The hardest thing installing a ducted vacuum in an existing house is getting the pipes down the walls. If you wanted you could even just install the pipes down the walls before the plaster and then once your settled connect all the pipes in the roof ect. But its definitely easier to do it all when the house is being built. Good luck Re: Ducted Vaccum - Is It Worth It? 24Jul 07, 2009 11:41 am This is essential.... Whoever is fitting the piping, MUST cut pipes neatly, and smooth off all daggy bits from the ends of pipes, and all elbows & fittings properly glued/sealed so there are no obstructions and it's all air-tight. Ash. Re: Ducted Vaccum - Is It Worth It? 26Jul 08, 2009 2:10 pm I received the following answer from the company that is doing ours Smart Systems SA on Henley Beach Road, Mile End when I asked the question about the power brush thing. Hi, This is a common story, fundamentally they are both correct and incorrect. Quick answer, we have Air driven Power Heads which are very good on our PU250 and above series, the one you are getting! The common problem with air driven power heads is a lot of them are cheap crap, you get what you pay for. Ours are $220 each and with the high airflow unit(PU250) they work well. Cheap air driven with low air flow units = not much fun You can get 240V power heads that require power points at each inlet, or a short cord to the nearest power point! 240V units are expensive $ 550 + ( just for hose and head!) Flip side, a good floor tool with lots of suction will work just as good, just a little harder to push around. A High quality High air flow ducted vac will outperform any portable Both in Litres per second and sealed Vacuum, and all the dirty air is removed not recycled. Re: Ducted Vaccum - Is It Worth It? 27Jul 08, 2009 2:39 pm Fundamentally, THEY are both correct and incorrect! YES there are various air-driven turbine heads that are not much chop. That is why I said, TURBO-CAT as can be seen here http://www.turbocats.com/products/turbocat/index.html. They are very good BUT must have good high airflow to be effective. Air-driven turbine heads are a waste of time if you don't have good consistent airflow to maintain their speed. Electric powered POWER-HEADS are more expensive, but I'm sure not that expensive, and yes, they would need a power-point. It is NOT TRUE that a good ducted system is as good as one with an efficient power-head. To remove deeply embedded soil & grit from carpets, AGITATION is required. And the final comment about a ducted system outperforming portable units is just unsubstantiated sales hype. Here's the BEST option.... Have a well engineered, high performance ducted sytem fitted, as discussed. This will do most tasks very well. Also, but a good upright Dyson vacuum cleaner with HEPA filter. Give your carpets a good thorough vacuum with this about every one to two months, especially in the traffic ways. You will SEE the stuff that the Dyson gets out, even after all your vacuuming with the ducted system. Or (as I said before) have a turbo-cat or powerhead that you can put on every month or two to give those traffic ways a good going over. Ash. Re: Ducted Vaccum - Is It Worth It? 28Jul 08, 2009 2:48 pm Here's a company that is worth looking at. They sell the turbo-cat as well as full ducted systems. http://www.aussievac.com.au/ Ash. Re: Ducted Vaccum - Is It Worth It? 30Jul 22, 2009 11:15 am haven't asked our supplier yet but has anyone seen the Vacpan thing in a brushed s/steel look ? We are having a S/S look kicker and think the black or white one might look a bit out of place. Re: Ducted Vaccum - Is It Worth It? 31Jul 22, 2009 11:20 am vid haven't asked our supplier yet but has anyone seen the Vacpan thing in a brushed s/steel look ? We are having a S/S look kicker and think the black or white one might look a bit out of place. I did vid, we paid extra for it. White is standard and they just clip the SS over the top. Please don't ask how much it was I didn't ask but I don't think it was much. Re: Ducted Vaccum - Is It Worth It? 32Jul 22, 2009 11:23 am SuH vid haven't asked our supplier yet but has anyone seen the Vacpan thing in a brushed s/steel look ? We are having a S/S look kicker and think the black or white one might look a bit out of place. I did vid, we paid extra for it. White is standard and they just clip the SS over the top. Please don't ask how much it was I didn't ask but I don't think it was much. Thanks SuH. Re: Ducted Vaccum - Is It Worth It? 33Jul 22, 2009 12:41 pm vid haven't asked our supplier yet but has anyone seen the Vacpan thing in a brushed s/steel look ? We are having a S/S look kicker and think the black or white one might look a bit out of place. I bought one online for $20.00. Built the Eden Brae Cambridge 34 Family with Boston Corner Facade Re: Ducted Vaccum - Is It Worth It? 35Jul 22, 2009 2:34 pm SuH Did anyone get a hose sock for theirs, I have one but I don't like it, it's picking up all the fluff from my rugs I have seen quilted ones, has anyone else seen quilted ones We are getting one with ours but I think it is stretchy and quite thin, I guess it might be a bit annoying but I imagine that the fluff will lessen as the rugs get older and have been vacuumed more Re: Ducted Vaccum - Is It Worth It? 36Jul 22, 2009 4:01 pm vid SuH Did anyone get a hose sock for theirs, I have one but I don't like it, it's picking up all the fluff from my rugs I have seen quilted ones, has anyone else seen quilted ones We are getting one with ours but I think it is stretchy and quite thin, I guess it might be a bit annoying but I imagine that the fluff will lessen as the rugs get older and have been vacuumed more Yes, mine is stretchy too, like a thick stocking...covered in fluff. Re: Ducted Vaccum - Is It Worth It? 37Jul 22, 2009 4:29 pm SuH Did anyone get a hose sock for theirs, I have one but I don't like it, it's picking up all the fluff from my rugs I have seen quilted ones, has anyone else seen quilted ones We got one. Quite thick grey stocking. Have no issues with fluff as we don't have rugs. Our carpet isn't causing any fluff issues. Built the Eden Brae Cambridge 34 Family with Boston Corner Facade Re: Ducted Vaccum - Is It Worth It? 38Jul 22, 2009 5:16 pm This is what i bought online. It's applied by self-adhesive. Sticks on, no probs. 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