Browse Forums General Discussion 1 May 06, 2007 3:19 pm Hi all. We are considering extensions/ recladding our 1960's shadowline home. My question is, we suspect the shadowline may contain asbestos. Can we safely clad with colourbond directly over the top using battens or must we remove all of the shadowline first?
Cheers Col Re: External shadowline cladding 2May 06, 2007 4:57 pm Hi lost dog….
Hate to say it…but colorbonding over the top is done all the time. It’s probably the easiest way of dealing with the asbestos problem. I’ve been on a few projects where they have opted to do this. It’s perfectly safe as well. Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: External shadowline cladding 3May 06, 2007 8:59 pm My completely questionable thought about asbestos is that it is only a problem whilst it is in powder form and is airborne. This is where it is inhailed into the lungs and you know the rest.
Based on this, I would think that as long as the people working on a project know that it is there, and that they take the appropriate precautions, it isnt a major issue. Only certified people in Vic can dispose of it in the proper and safe way. BUT I MIGHT BE WRONG AND I WONT BE OFFEDNDED IF I AM CORRECTED. Given the nature of asbestos, If someone in the know could provide some more info that would be great. Thanks Adrian B Re: External shadowline cladding 4May 06, 2007 9:17 pm You are very correct about having it dealt with correctly!!!
I was contracted to do a small bathroom reno for a client, I rang around getting quotes from builders and asking how they were intending to discard and dump the asbestos. One told me he would just dig a hole somewhere and bury it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He most certainly did not get the job!!! Asbestos needs to be treated as though it is going to “rip your head off” the minute you look away! BUT…having said that, if everyone knows the dangers and are aware of it, and are suited up correctly there is NO danger! IF you want to drill holes and poke your face in the hole with no mask on and have a sniff around…..well more fool that person! Covering the problem is fine, as long as you are not drilling; cutting…..ect you will be ok. ALWAYS wear protective clothing whenever you are dealing with asbestos Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: External shadowline cladding 5May 07, 2007 8:53 am Asbestos cladding is safe as long as it is not drilled, ground, broken or anything that can release the asbestos fibres.
How can you attach colorbond cladding over the top without drilling through the asbestos? Glue it on? Seems unlikely. Remember, if removing old fibro, do everything to keep the dust down. Wet the sheets, try to remove them without breakage (centrepunch the nails through the board), wear a decent mask (P2 type, available at Bunnings, not the cheap non-marked dust mask), put it in a plastic lined and covered bin, and tell the Skip people it contains asbestos so it gets buried at the tip. Asbestos is NOT a case where a few fibres inhaled are OK, and heaps will kill you. ONE fibre may be enough to do the damage. Re: External shadowline cladding 6May 07, 2007 10:23 am Baton up for the colorbond…..just wear protective clothing,
from head to toe!!! It’s not a hard thing, not a fashion statement either, but all the correct clothing is easily bought from suppliers. Then burn it after use. Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: External shadowline cladding 7May 07, 2007 10:27 am Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: External shadowline cladding 8May 07, 2007 5:41 pm Adrian B Only certified people in Vic can dispose of it in the proper and safe way. BUT I MIGHT BE WRONG AND I WONT BE OFFEDNDED IF I AM CORRECTED. Given the nature of asbestos, If someone in the know could provide some more info that would be great. Thanks There are type A & type B licences. Home owners can remove & dispose of [i think without looking it up again] in Vic 10m2 without a licence. There was an in depth discussion either on here or woodwork forums previously. Peter Clarkson - AusDesign Australia www.ausdesign.com.au This information is intended to provide general information only. It does not purport to be a comprehensive advice. Re: External shadowline cladding 9May 07, 2007 9:02 pm In NSW, you can remove 200m2 without a licence. From July 2007, this will reduce to 50m2 and from July 2008, it will reduce further to 10m2.
Here is some good information: http://www.workcover.nsw.gov.au/NR/rdon ... e_0315.pdf If you are not confident of containing the dust, don't touch it. Our rules are quite lax compared to some American states. I was watching This Old House the other week and they had to remove some bonded asbestos. The stuff we considered relatively safe. They had to do the full negative pressure enclosure, plastic cocoon etc to get rid of some lino type stuff. Over the top. Re: External shadowline cladding 10May 15, 2007 7:09 pm Thank to everyone who replied. I have been away for a while and haven't had net access. Your answers have given me a lot of pointers. Great to see that people are willing to help out. This is a brilliant site.
Col Re: External shadowline cladding 11May 15, 2007 7:37 pm Lost Dog This is a brilliant site. That it is!! The information here is mostly invaluable..... Matt Re my second point – yes exactly. And often it may take additional time if the manufacturer recommends no more than X meters… 3 5611 Standard uninsulated double brick has an R value of around 0.7. An insulated standard 90mm stud timber frame can have an R value of around 2.7. Even if you insulate a… 17 11994 The spacing of the studs looks pretty large especially for a load bearing wall. 3 11103 |