Browse Forums General Discussion 1 Apr 07, 2009 1:47 pm Good reason to get a propper cabler in to wire up your homes. not to mention have at least Cat6 run in your house Read this just before, 90% of Aust to get FTTH and the other 10% to get 100mb - 12mb. Govt to build national broadband network The federal government will establish its own company to build the national broadband network. Prime Minister Kevin Rudd made the announcement during a joint press conference with Communications Minister Stephen Conroy and Finance Minister Lindsay Tanner in Canberra this morning. Mr Rudd described the announcement as "historic", describing broadband as the core of 21st century infrastructure. The network, described as the single biggest infrastructure project in Australian history, will be built in partnership with the private sector. Private sector investment in the new network will be capped at 49 per cent. Not one of the private consortia tendering for the network met the government's requirements, Mr Rudd said. The Acacia consortium, comprising wealthy businessmen and telco veterans, had been regarded as frontrunner for the project ahead of Optus and Canadian telco Axia NetMedia. The nation's largest telco, Telstra, was excluded from consideration after it failed to meet tender guidelines. But it will be invited to take part in the new process, Senator Conroy said. The new company will invest up to $43 billion in the network over eight years. The government will make an initial investment of $4.7 billion in the company but intends to sell its interest within five years after the network is fully operational. Rollout of the network is expected to start in early 2010. The new network will deliver fast speed broadband to 90 per cent of the country through optical fibre. The service would be up to 100 times faster than that currently available, Mr Rudd said. "It will connect all other houses and business in Australia with next generation wireless and satellite technologies that will deliver broadband speeds of 12 mega-bits per second," he told reporters. Building the network will take seven to eight years, Mr Rudd said. Tasmania will be the first state to benefit, with work expected to start mid-2009. "Every person and business in Australia, no matter where they are located, will have access to affordable, fast broadband at their fingertips," Mr Rudd said. Mr Tanner said the new company would be broadly equivalent to Australia Post. "We would anticipate the company would borrow on its own account," he told reporters. The initial government investment of $4.7 billion will be drawn from the Building Australia Fund. Additional equity, if required, would be financed by Aussie Infrastructure Bonds, a move Mr Tanner described as "entirely sustainable". "The key thing here is Australia can't afford not to do this," Mr Tanner said, adding it was a capital-constrained world. Kinda building related.. Mods feel free to move to anywher eelse if you feel it doesn't belong here Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: Govt to build national broadband network 2Apr 07, 2009 2:14 pm How do I exactly prepare for this fiber optic FTTH that Keven plans to build? In my building plans I'm assuming ADSL so a normal phone point will do. How do I prepare for fiber optic FTTH?
Re: Govt to build national broadband network 3Apr 07, 2009 2:14 pm Great news for everyone, If this was to start tommorrow we are still 3 to 4 years beind the rest of the world but the proposed FTTN that was on the table with RFP process would have put Australia10 to 15 years behind everyone else.. The right and brave decision. Re: Govt to build national broadband network 4Apr 07, 2009 2:15 pm reaver How do I exactly prepare for this fiber optic FTTH that Keven plans to build? In my building plans I'm assuming ADSL so I've assumed a normal phone point will. How do I prepare for fiber optic FTTH? To early to do anything, just go ahead as would have done yesterday. Re: Govt to build national broadband network 5Apr 07, 2009 2:20 pm IMO to prepare for FTTH you shoud leave a space of 1m square clear with at leats 2 double power outlets next to it with no other cabling in that secion of the wall cavity Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: Govt to build national broadband network 6Apr 07, 2009 2:26 pm Pugs IMO to prepare for FTTH you shoud leave a space of 1m square clear with at leats 2 double power outlets next to it with no other cabling in that secion of the wall cavity Your workplace will be buzzing today over this announcement.... Re: Govt to build national broadband network 7Apr 07, 2009 2:42 pm yes myself who is the owner/ MD and the Installer I are very excited.... Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: Govt to build national broadband network 8Apr 07, 2009 4:30 pm Opens the door for further negotiations with Telstra now... My bet is it will end up in the too hard basket and never happen. Re: Govt to build national broadband network 10Apr 07, 2009 7:13 pm oztish We already have FTTH in our housing estate. But we have no choice of service provider for internet nor home phone. I hope this brings us pricing competition. Telstra is going to reduce pricing for FTTH by Christmas anyway, when it merges the offers with cable. So I think the cable prices are pretty decent for what you get. Re: Govt to build national broadband network 11Apr 07, 2009 7:44 pm triple j had a talk about thos today on Hack http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/hack/ well worth the download. Andrew Re: Govt to build national broadband network 12Apr 07, 2009 9:01 pm wakeboardandy Opens the door for further negotiations with Telstra now... My bet is it will end up in the too hard basket and never happen. Negotiate what? They don't build networks Re: Govt to build national broadband network 13Apr 07, 2009 9:08 pm andrew1977au triple j had a talk about thos today on Hack http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/hack/ well worth the download. Andrew Where's the link on that page? It's only got last weeks Re: Govt to build national broadband network 14Apr 07, 2009 9:14 pm click on TUESDAY dude, pick one of the options, try windows. Re: Govt to build national broadband network 15Apr 07, 2009 9:19 pm andrew1977au click on TUESDAY dude, pick one of the options, try windows. Thats last weeks, so covers nothing about today as they are talking about FTTN and the problems and benefits of that not FTTH theres a fair bit of difference between the two. Re: Govt to build national broadband network 16Apr 07, 2009 9:52 pm ausfatcat wakeboardandy Opens the door for further negotiations with Telstra now... My bet is it will end up in the too hard basket and never happen. Negotiate what? They don't build networks $$$$, the government can't afford it.. Telstra can... For the goverment to go ahead with this they can't do it without Telstra. If they could have they would have awarded the tender today. Re: Govt to build national broadband network 17Apr 07, 2009 9:54 pm ausfatcat andrew1977au click on TUESDAY dude, pick one of the options, try windows. Thats last weeks, so covers nothing about today as they are talking about FTTN and the problems and benefits of that not FTTH theres a fair bit of difference between the two. it was on the radio today, they do pre-record Hack. Andrew Re: Govt to build national broadband network 18Apr 07, 2009 9:59 pm wakeboardandy $$$$, the government can't afford it.. Telstra can... For the goverment to go ahead with this they can't do it without Telstra. If they could have they would have awarded the tender today. You are misinformed mate..... Telstra assets = 32 billion Telstra debt = 13 billion They couldn't afford, no-one can except for the gov. Part of the anouncement was the max single shareholder would be 15%. RFP process was flawed from the start they only asked for bids of FTTN which was fine 4 years ago but not today. Telstra offered to put 2 billion for the project origonally for FTTN (projections to cost 15 billion to build) this FTTH will cost 25 billion plus. Half of the whole idea of the RFP and this anouncement is to break Telstra's monopoly in the market not to recreate it. The absolute most Telstra could play in this build is to buy 15% stake and allow access to conduits, whcih with the overal picture is minimal. Re: Govt to build national broadband network 19Apr 07, 2009 10:02 pm andrew1977au it was on the radio today, they do pre-record Hack. Andrew I listened to it, they talk about is the FTTN proposals not the current FTTH project again different issues (they talk a lot about using the copper loop which isn't required with FTTH). I believe you it aired to day but what they are talking about has no relevance any more, and doesn't really relate to the new network. Re: Govt to build national broadband network 20Apr 07, 2009 10:08 pm ausfatcat You are misinformed mate..... Telstra assets = 32 billion Telstra debt = 13 billion They couldn't afford, no-one can except for the gov. Part of the anouncement was the max single shareholder would be 15%. RFP process was flawed from the start they only asked for bids of FTTN which was fine 4 years ago but not today. Telstra offered to put 2 billion for the project origonally for FTTN (projections to cost 15 billion to build) this FTTH will cost 25 billion plus. Half of the whole idea of the RFP and this anouncement is to break Telstra's monopoly in the market not to recreate it. The absolute most Telstra could play in this build is to buy 15% stake and allow access to conduits, whcih with the overal picture is minimal. What you are saying is the goverment is starting up a new Telstra with the money they made from selling Telstra... Anyway, good luck them getting this through the senate. And it wouldn't be the labor party if they didn't go and put the country in massive debt.. The government thought they were great standing up to Telstra by excluding them, until the realised that only Telstra was capable of building the FTTN. So they decide to make up this unrealistic proposal today to save face and to not embarrass themselves... Once it gets blocked in the senate, they can just say, well we at least tried.. Thank you so much everyone. This all makes a lot of sense. 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