Browse Forums General Discussion Re: Architraves around windows and doors OR square edge plaster? 14Dec 31, 2008 1:59 am I'd say architraves look better, to me its like framing a picture,, plus I got a quote recenlty from the plasterers and to have them square it all off cost about $2k more,, unsure how much the architraves cost though.
I reckon it gives the window frame a bit more structure too. Re: Architraves around windows and doors OR square edge plaster? 15Dec 31, 2008 7:17 am I like the modern look however when I build a house i try to think of how it will look in the long term. I belive architraves are a more solid finish.
To me they are more than just cosmetic. To me they do the following. 1. Hold plaster to wall and make door frames stiffer and stronger. architraves allow nails and fixing to be installed perpendicular to the forces of the door weight making door jambs harder to pull away over time. 2. Windows they make the reveals stronger. If kids climb on the reveal the reveal is less likely to be pushed down, especially if the carpenter hasnt put enough packers/support under the window reveal. 3. Expansion and contraction. No two materials expand and conctract at the same rate. So like mentioned before this will be prone to cracking. 4. architraves hide errors and in perfections. Say for example that during the build the reveals have warped a little. architraves give you the opportunity to push the reveal into position and then fix with a nail gun through the architraves. 5. Regarding price you can not ask a build how much for a new product. To reduce cost you need to reduce time overall and future maintence. You should be getting the installers involved and asking them for price. Builders are only project managers and business operators, for new poducts they can only guess. In Aust labour expensive, if you can reduce labour some how you are doing well. 6., From what is talked about painters are the only people to save time. Also if you dont have architraves will you have skirting?? if you still have skirting how do you finish this off when they meet the door jambs??? Re: Architraves around windows and doors OR square edge plaster? 16Dec 31, 2008 1:04 pm chuth77 I guess then the diffiuclty will be painting the reveal? Do you have any sketches of the section? Or is it too early pending patents etc? When the reveal is aluminium it will be as a component of the door so will look right. When it is a plaster return it will be the same as a plaster wall. Too soon for sketches but looking at the responses we may need to keep the traditional timber and have the plaster as well. Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Architraves around windows and doors OR square edge plaster? 17Dec 31, 2008 1:19 pm borg I like the modern look however when I build a house i try to think of how it will look in the long term. I belive architraves are a more solid finish. To me they are more than just cosmetic. To me they do the following. 1. Hold plaster to wall and make door frames stiffer and stronger. architraves allow nails and fixing to be installed perpendicular to the forces of the door weight making door jambs harder to pull away over time. The house frame supports the door or window, the architraves are really just for cosmetics. borg 2. Windows they make the reveals stronger. If kids climb on the reveal the reveal is less likely to be pushed down, especially if the carpenter hasnt put enough packers/support under the window reveal. The plaster would require packing probably more than the reveal. The windows would be attached to the framework directly rather than nailed through the reveal. The windows and doors would actually be more secure by being attached directly to the frame. Traditionally windows are attached to reveals with staples and these are the structural fastening for the windows and doors. borg 3. Expansion and contraction. No two materials expand and conctract at the same rate. So like mentioned before this will be prone to cracking. The plaster would be returned into a pocket allowing it and the aluminium to move independently. borg 4. architraves hide errors and in perfections. Say for example that during the build the reveals have warped a little. architraves give you the opportunity to push the reveal into position and then fix with a nail gun through the architraves. You won't be able to "push the reveals" if the reveals have been properly packed as they should be. Plaster reveals and good timber reveals won't warp. borg 5. Regarding price you can not ask a build how much for a new product. To reduce cost you need to reduce time overall and future maintence. You should be getting the installers involved and asking them for price. Builders are only project managers and business operators, for new poducts they can only guess. In Aust labour expensive, if you can reduce labour some how you are doing well. Already organised on this one, we have a lot of good advice from our customers. borg 6., From what is talked about painters are the only people to save time. Also if you dont have architraves will you have skirting?? if you still have skirting how do you finish this off when they meet the door jambs??? There are a lot of savings on plastering and painting - homework already done. Yes skirting is an issue but square cut or mitre would seem to be OK. Thanks Ed "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Re: Architraves around windows and doors OR square edge plaster? 18Dec 31, 2008 1:43 pm Well this is unfair …..I put a vote just for fun… I have no idea what you are on about, get real...
But now the poll won’t let me vote again. Ok my view is this. 1) Depends on the style and age of the home as weather I would like to see archs. 2) I prefer archs around doors, but depending on the window and it purpose, I like to see the decretive windows with NO archs. Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: Architraves around windows and doors OR square edge plaster? 19Dec 31, 2008 1:43 pm Hi EcoClassic
Are you able to post a picture of what it would look like...not the one you are designing but a window that is square set? I picked the architrave option only because I know what it looks like. The no architrave option sounds very expensive (although it’s not apparently) and would not pay thousands dollars more for a look that I don’t really know anything about? That is just my first initial response to the survey. However....if I had a picture to compare it to a window or door with architraves then I might likely to pick the seamless option. I think it also depends on the style of housing you are building. I was 'semi' aware of the no architrave look but was told that is was a hassle, relied on master trdesman to get it just right and expensive. If you could provide a product that was neither any of the above, then I would have considered it. Mrs B Re: Architraves around windows and doors OR square edge plaster? 20Dec 31, 2008 2:13 pm Mrs B Hi EcoClassic Are you able to post a picture of what it would look like...not the one you are designing but a window that is square set? I picked the architrave option only because I know what it looks like. The no architrave option sounds very expensive (although it’s not apparently) and would not pay thousands dollars more for a look that I don’t really know anything about? That is just my first initial response to the survey. However....if I had a picture to compare it to a window or door with architraves then I might likely to pick the seamless option. I think it also depends on the style of housing you are building. I was 'semi' aware of the no architrave look but was told that is was a hassle, relied on master trdesman to get it just right and expensive. If you could provide a product that was neither any of the above, then I would have considered it. Mrs B Pics? Hmmm, should have thought of that... I will see what I can find and get back... "ECOECO" At 'EcoEco', we design windows, we design the best windows, we do it for you, so that when you’re happy we are happy. Tel. 1800 326 326 Hello everyone, After some suggestions and ideas about how to put a concrete path around the drop edge beam area on our new build. We are required to have a concrete path… 0 11043 I already have the doors and architraves installed as pictured. My question is which size n type of skirting would go with the architraves? I originally wanted a winder,… 0 2905 Depends... Brick veneer required the window to be attached to the house frame, this is usually achieved by screwing through the timber reveal into the frame. There are… 1 4623 |