Browse Forums General Discussion 1 Apr 09, 2024 7:55 am Hello everyone We are planning to build 2 storey home in Brisbane inner north. We finalised two quotes from two custom builders. They are about same price with similar inclusions. However builder 1 is providing steel frames with Hebel for downstairs and builder 2 providing brick with timber frames What do you reckon is best , ideally from my research steel frame with brick is ideal option and either of them won't work that combination Anyone here have any suggestions? Thanks Re: Hebel + steel frame vs brick+ timber frame 2Apr 09, 2024 1:38 pm Personally I’m not a fan of steel (as a building designer) for thermal performance as steel is highly conductive and thermal bridging needs to be considered and controlled with thermal breaks, and from a sustainability point of view. If you’re concerned about termites, you can get timber frames and trusses with H2-F treatment, in addition to a physical barrier like Kordon, which has a lifetime warranty if maintained. Hope this helps! Building Designer | Sunshine Coast www.draftroom.com.au Re: Hebel + steel frame vs brick+ timber frame 3Apr 10, 2024 7:06 am DraftRoom Personally I’m not a fan of steel (as a building designer) for thermal performance as steel is highly conductive and thermal bridging needs to be considered and controlled with thermal breaks, and from a sustainability point of view. If you’re concerned about termites, you can get timber frames and trusses with H2-F treatment, in addition to a physical barrier like Kordon, which has a lifetime warranty if maintained. Hope this helps! Thank you , also heard that steel frames make knocking noise ? Do you have any experience with Hebel? Is it durable as bricks + rendering Re: Hebel + steel frame vs brick+ timber frame 4Apr 10, 2024 7:27 am Bk3064 DraftRoom Personally I’m not a fan of steel (as a building designer) for thermal performance as steel is highly conductive and thermal bridging needs to be considered and controlled with thermal breaks, and from a sustainability point of view. If you’re concerned about termites, you can get timber frames and trusses with H2-F treatment, in addition to a physical barrier like Kordon, which has a lifetime warranty if maintained. Hope this helps! Thank you , also heard that steel frames make knocking noise ? Do you have any experience with Hebel? Is it durable as bricks + rendering You’re welcome, I’ve heard steel frames can make ticking noises with thermal expansion or contraction, though I have never personally experienced it. We recently completed a small project on the Sunshine Coast that was steel frame and Heble construction and it turned out really well. See link below for some project photos: https://www.draftroom.com.au/projects/k ... y-dwelling Building Designer | Sunshine Coast www.draftroom.com.au Re: Hebel + steel frame vs brick+ timber frame 5Apr 10, 2024 7:52 pm Timber frame with brick veneer is what I would choose.. The one advantage hebel has is that its cheaper if you want rendered walls. Rendered Hebel is now approaching the same price as face brick in Victoria. It has worse noise insulation, is brittle and more prone to visible cracks if the house moves on reactive soil (although this can happen with brick). Re: Hebel + steel frame vs brick+ timber frame 6Apr 11, 2024 12:08 am stefcep Timber frame with brick veneer is what I would choose.. The one advantage hebel has is that its cheaper if you want rendered walls. Rendered Hebel is now approaching the same price as face brick in Victoria. It has worse noise insulation, is brittle and more prone to visible cracks if the house moves on reactive soil (although this can happen with brick). Thanks I had similar feedback from lot of people . I think with steel frame hanging heavy items is not recommended I am not sure how much truth in that Re: Hebel + steel frame vs brick+ timber frame 7Apr 11, 2024 12:10 am DraftRoom Bk3064 DraftRoom Personally I’m not a fan of steel (as a building designer) for thermal performance as steel is highly conductive and thermal bridging needs to be considered and controlled with thermal breaks, and from a sustainability point of view. If you’re concerned about termites, you can get timber frames and trusses with H2-F treatment, in addition to a physical barrier like Kordon, which has a lifetime warranty if maintained. Hope this helps! Thank you , also heard that steel frames make knocking noise ? Do you have any experience with Hebel? Is it durable as bricks + rendering You’re welcome, I’ve heard steel frames can make ticking noises with thermal expansion or contraction, though I have never personally experienced it. We recently completed a small project on the Sunshine Coast that was steel frame and Heble construction and it turned out really well. See link below for some project photos: https://www.draftroom.com.au/projects/k ... y-dwelling Looks amazing, however I think for double story application I think noise matters , we have a patio which makes ticking noises all the time, some times they are as loud as someone threw a big stone . If we get similar noises with steel then it's lot of ticking noises Re: Hebel + steel frame vs brick+ timber frame 9Apr 18, 2024 4:52 am Bk3064 stefcep Timber frame with brick veneer is what I would choose.. The one advantage hebel has is that its cheaper if you want rendered walls. Rendered Hebel is now approaching the same price as face brick in Victoria. It has worse noise insulation, is brittle and more prone to visible cracks if the house moves on reactive soil (although this can happen with brick). Thanks I had similar feedback from lot of people . I think with steel frame hanging heavy items is not recommended I am not sure how much truth in that This is 100% true. You can not hang anything on steel frames. very frustrating Architectural Homes & Duplexes - specialising in custom designing homes to your budget Get a Free Onsite Consultation Today or send a PM for information, questions or advice. Hi I am wanting some opinions about the build of a steel shed I am going to get one about 4.5 x 2.5 m steel shed and the height will be about 2.3-2.4m high The one I am… 0 14814 Hi, We have a single story MacDonald Jones house, on a waffle pod slab with steel frame. Are we able to build a second story extension? Other info is we are 900mm from… 0 8963 1 6871 |