Solid plastering around door frames - help... so confused :(

catb9 · Aug 18, 2023 12:56 pm

Hi
Just wondering if anyone has had plastering like this done around door frames?

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Some of them have only been done on one side. How would it get painted? The frames should be semi-gloss white, and the walls are Lexicon quarter. this would mean 2 different depths of wall colour..?? I don't know if my symmetrical particularness can survive this...

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chippy · Aug 18, 2023 1:35 pm

Hi Cat. By the look of that I assume you are in WA.
Unfortunately that is fairly common particularly in toilets where there is a small gap next to the frame.
I agree it looks horrible and really it's the plasterer being lazy. It's very hard to get into the little gap and trowel and finish the float and set, so they build it out to the frame.
A good plasterer will take the time and have tools that let them get in there but the majority of project homes will get finished like that.
And yes, it will be up to the painter to try and make it look somewhat decent.

catb9 · Aug 18, 2023 3:12 pm

chippy

Hi Cat. By the look of that I assume you are in WA.
Unfortunately that is fairly common particularly in toilets where there is a small gap next to the frame.
I agree it looks horrible and really it's the plasterer being lazy. It's very hard to get into the little gap and trowel and finish the float and set, so they build it out to the frame.
A good plasterer will take the time and have tools that let them get in there but the majority of project homes will get finished like that.
And yes, it will be up to the painter to try and make it look somewhat decent.

Hi, thanks for your reply. Do you think that given it's a custom build of around $650k, I should pursue a more quality finish?

catb9 · Aug 18, 2023 3:14 pm

chippy

Hi Cat. By the look of that I assume you are in WA.
Unfortunately that is fairly common particularly in toilets where there is a small gap next to the frame.
I agree it looks horrible and really it's the plasterer being lazy. It's very hard to get into the little gap and trowel and finish the float and set, so they build it out to the frame.
A good plasterer will take the time and have tools that let them get in there but the majority of project homes will get finished like that.
And yes, it will be up to the painter to try and make it look somewhat decent.

Also, directly behind one door, with the same gap of 45mm, it is finished perfectly - so we know he's capable

Ashington Homes · Aug 18, 2023 3:29 pm

chippy

Hi Cat. By the look of that I assume you are in WA.
Unfortunately that is fairly common particularly in toilets where there is a small gap next to the frame.
I agree it looks horrible and really it's the plasterer being lazy. It's very hard to get into the little gap and trowel and finish the float and set, so they build it out to the frame.
A good plasterer will take the time and have tools that let them get in there but the majority of project homes will get finished like that.
And yes, it will be up to the painter to try and make it look somewhat decent.

Holy crap that looks terrible! Thanks for the explanation chippy.

But why don't they put the architraves on after setting and sanding? just flip the order

catb9 · Aug 18, 2023 3:44 pm

Ashington Homes

chippy

Hi Cat. By the look of that I assume you are in WA.
Unfortunately that is fairly common particularly in toilets where there is a small gap next to the frame.
I agree it looks horrible and really it's the plasterer being lazy. It's very hard to get into the little gap and trowel and finish the float and set, so they build it out to the frame.
A good plasterer will take the time and have tools that let them get in there but the majority of project homes will get finished like that.
And yes, it will be up to the painter to try and make it look somewhat decent.

Holy crap that looks terrible! Thanks for the explanation chippy.

But why don't they put the architraves on after setting and sanding? just flip the order

Not just me then? The site manager blew it off... like too bad, that's how it's done. The metal door frames are bricked in by the brickies, but on the plans there is no gap - as in the door frame is built to the edge. But it's also completely random where it's been done AND we paid $1200 extra for those modular frames! If they absolutely had to, I would have considered flushing in the frames, but only if the entire wall got done to maintain a level finish. Sadly, we were never consulted - as usual.

Ashington Homes · Aug 18, 2023 3:47 pm

catb9

Ashington Homes

chippy

Hi Cat. By the look of that I assume you are in WA.
Unfortunately that is fairly common particularly in toilets where there is a small gap next to the frame.
I agree it looks horrible and really it's the plasterer being lazy. It's very hard to get into the little gap and trowel and finish the float and set, so they build it out to the frame.
A good plasterer will take the time and have tools that let them get in there but the majority of project homes will get finished like that.
And yes, it will be up to the painter to try and make it look somewhat decent.

Holy crap that looks terrible! Thanks for the explanation chippy.

But why don't they put the architraves on after setting and sanding? just flip the order

Not just me then? The site manager blew it off... like too bad, that's how it's done. The metal door frames are bricked in by the brickies, but on the plans there is no gap - as in the door frame is built to the edge. But it's also completely random where it's been done AND we paid $1200 extra for those modular frames! If they absolutely had to, I would have considered flushing in the frames, but only if the entire wall got done to maintain a level finish. Sadly, we were never consulted - as usual.

i just sent that photo to my business partner, and we nearly wet ourselves with laughter at how bad some builders are and what they try and get away with.

Have some pride in your work for gods sake!

Not sure what else to say other than I would be getting it ripped off and reset.

catb9 · Aug 18, 2023 4:11 pm

Yep, no pride.. and no respect for other tradies. Everyone trade seems to have to deal with whatever surprises the previous trade left for them. We've had some shockers on our build - check this out

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Ashington Homes · Aug 19, 2023 12:19 pm

catb9

Yep, no pride.. and no respect for other tradies. Everyone trade seems to have to deal with whatever surprises the previous trade left for them. We've had some shockers on our build - check this out

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I'm not sure what to say about that!

You must have other issues there as well

building-expert · Aug 19, 2023 2:15 pm

If this is a custom build then I would expect the builder to set out the door frame closer to the wall to avoid the gap between architrave and the wall and or specify wider architraves. I many case where a gap does happen but is less than 18mm the usual remedy is a timber fillet which will look acceptable. I think the builder parked his brain in neutral when setting out the door frames.