Browse Forums General Discussion 1 Oct 29, 2008 7:57 pm I know this question will show how truly naive I am to the whole building your own home process, but I figure the only stupid question is the one you don't ask, so here goes...
When I look at listings for vacant land do the dimensions advertised include the nature strip and footpath area? Even if there is no footpath on the block yet? Do I need to allow for these when considering what size house plan could fit on a particular block? Is nature strips and footpaths all a standard size? Is 'minimum setback' measured from the road or from the footpath? Many thanks in advance... J. Re: Land Size / Dimensions... 2Oct 29, 2008 8:01 pm Hi Jennifer!
When you look at listings for vacant land the dimensions shown should be for the land itself that you will own if you buy it. things such as nature strip footpath etc is owned by council so the land dimensions should not include this. Minimum setback is not measured from the road or footpath etc but from the begining of where the 'pegs' are set out which identifies where your land begins.. hope im making sence and helped!! Re: Land Size / Dimensions... 3Oct 29, 2008 8:02 pm Welcome to the forum...
There are never stupid questions...just stupid answers... Vacant land area is based on the titled area or the bit that you own....so no it doesn't include the footpath or nature strip. Setbacks are from the titled boundary...which is sometimes slightly in from where the footpath is laid....150 mm-ish maybe more but not much more. Go to a new estate and have a look at were the boundary pegs (the short square ones in the ground) you'll see that they are in from the road. mmm....donuts Homer Simpson 1956- Links: Site Costs Ready Reckoner | H1 Addiction Medical Advice | Château TDL: The Backyard Re: Land Size / Dimensions... 4Oct 29, 2008 8:05 pm ok your response made more sense and sounded so much better than mine!!!
at least someone around here knows how to explain things good Re: Land Size / Dimensions... 5Oct 29, 2008 8:21 pm Samira ok your response made more sense and sounded so much better than mine!!! at least someone around here knows how to explain things good Oh but you answered more quickly...this is starting to sound like... Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ mmm....donuts Homer Simpson 1956- Links: Site Costs Ready Reckoner | H1 Addiction Medical Advice | Château TDL: The Backyard Re: Land Size / Dimensions... 6Oct 29, 2008 9:30 pm TDL seems to always have the good smart answers! Idiots are fun, that's why there is one in every village! - Dr. House - Re: Land Size / Dimensions... 7Oct 30, 2008 9:27 am yeah i have noticed Mike is like a walking talking wikipedia! Seems to know all the answers which certainly comes in handy Re: Land Size / Dimensions... 8Oct 31, 2008 9:09 am I have a different view.
It depends on what vacant land you are talking about. In my area, there are still a few vacant bits of land here and there, in developed areas. In these ads they will include all of the land including nature strip and footpath. My title for my land in Ryde includes the nature strip and footpath area in the dimensions. Greg Re: Land Size / Dimensions... 9Oct 19, 2009 6:49 pm Sorry to bump this topic back up, but we're having a bit of a panic. Our titled land is in a brand new estate and when we bought it, there were no footpaths etc. At land settlement all appeared to be normal, but the slab's just been poured and when we went to view it, we could see it from its placement that the estate and builder have counted the side footpath in the land allotment. Our setbacks etc give us about 1.4m from the building line to the land boundary. So imagine our surprise last night when we saw that the footpath down the side (we're on a corner block) is more like 40 cm from the building line. Land's already settled, slab is already in place, and between that and the front footpath being counted in land title as well, we've lost a strip of about 26 x 1m and 16 x 1m. Not in a million years did we receive any information that indicated that the side boundary would count the nature strip and footpath in our land, but that's what's happened. The block next door has not had any development to it yet, but we imagine it's been sold as well. We're building Evadene, for the record... I've contacted our conveyancer but we imagine it's too late. Help? Building the home formerly known as the PD Lawson II (Barwon) in Evadene, Tarneit Site commenced: 05/10/2009 | Base complete: 19/10/2009 | Frame complete: 23/10/2009 | Lockup complete: 23/11/2009 | Fixing complete: 08/12/2009 Re: Land Size / Dimensions... 10Oct 19, 2009 10:07 pm Pretty sure you're a bit too late. Where are you located? I think if yoere in the Sydney area of NSW that your titled land would include all the way from the street(s) to other boundaries. Even if it didn't I don't think there's a lot you can do at this stage exept to stop and redesign your site, council approvals, etc. You need to find out how you are titled, and what your land area includes. Greg Re: Land Size / Dimensions... 11Oct 19, 2009 10:31 pm lazywriterbum Sorry to bump this topic back up, but we're having a bit of a panic. Our titled land is in a brand new estate and when we bought it, there were no footpaths etc. At land settlement all appeared to be normal, but the slab's just been poured and when we went to view it, we could see it from its placement that the estate and builder have counted the side footpath in the land allotment. Our setbacks etc give us about 1.4m from the building line to the land boundary. So imagine our surprise last night when we saw that the footpath down the side (we're on a corner block) is more like 40 cm from the building line. Land's already settled, slab is already in place, and between that and the front footpath being counted in land title as well, we've lost a strip of about 26 x 1m and 16 x 1m. Not in a million years did we receive any information that indicated that the side boundary would count the nature strip and footpath in our land, but that's what's happened. The block next door has not had any development to it yet, but we imagine it's been sold as well. We're building Evadene, for the record... I've contacted our conveyancer but we imagine it's too late. Help? The footpaths can't possibly be included in your land dimensions on your title. Either your builder has made an error in where they've poured your slab, or the developer has put the footpaths in the wrong place, or your pegs were moved ....or maybe there's some confusion about the setbacks in your plans. I'm sure your conveyancer can help you to sort it out. If you look closely at the stage diagrams for Evadene, you can see that footpaths and nature strips are marked on them - and the land dimensions are shown for the lots, not including those areas. I can't post an image to show you what I mean, theyr'e too large, but if you click on this link, you can see that footpaths are definitely not included in the land dimensions: http://www.evadene.com.au/uploads/A4-st-2-evadene-flyer_proof090409_3-2.jpg It looks like a totally normal stage plan for a Victorian estate - if you look at Lot 120 for example, the dimensions are 12.5m x 32m, excluding any footpaths or other public areas. When we bought our land, it was just a paddock - no roads, not footpaths, no nothing, but the pegs were in place and we trekked through mud to check our dimensions. After the roads etc were built, the pegs were replaced in the same spots, same dimensions. Try not to panic, I'm sure there's an explanation - and if it's a mistake on the part of your builder, they'll fix it. It wouldn't be the first time a wrongly placed slab has had to be jackhammered and extra concrete poured. Oops. Re: Land Size / Dimensions... 12Oct 23, 2009 12:48 am OK, to update... Our CSC had updated our file to say the slab had been poured already: it hadn't. We saw the footings etc in place on Saturday in preparation for pouring, and when I posted I'd just looked at the PD 24/7 tool which told me the slab had, indeed, been poured... and the CSC had emailed that morning to indicate that was the case. So we drove over there, remeasured it after seeing it wasn't actually poured and breathing a sigh of relief, and got on the phone. Everything was slightly off but not by as much as we'd thought because the footings extended quite a bit further than the slab was to be poured and because the temp fencing and peg lines were really dug in the wrong place as well. Somehow it managed to get sorted out within a day or two (not sure how) but we visited earlier and saw the slab's poured, it's in the right spot now, and the frame's nearly done. Hooray. ...I can't believe my husband nearly convinced me it wasn't "a big deal" if we lost a bit of land down the side! Building the home formerly known as the PD Lawson II (Barwon) in Evadene, Tarneit Site commenced: 05/10/2009 | Base complete: 19/10/2009 | Frame complete: 23/10/2009 | Lockup complete: 23/11/2009 | Fixing complete: 08/12/2009 Re: Land Size / Dimensions... 13Oct 23, 2009 7:25 am lazywriterbum OK, to update... Our CSC had updated our file to say the slab had been poured already: it hadn't. We saw the footings etc in place on Saturday in preparation for pouring, and when I posted I'd just looked at the PD 24/7 tool which told me the slab had, indeed, been poured... and the CSC had emailed that morning to indicate that was the case. So we drove over there, remeasured it after seeing it wasn't actually poured and breathing a sigh of relief, and got on the phone. Everything was slightly off but not by as much as we'd thought because the footings extended quite a bit further than the slab was to be poured and because the temp fencing and peg lines were really dug in the wrong place as well. Somehow it managed to get sorted out within a day or two (not sure how) but we visited earlier and saw the slab's poured, it's in the right spot now, and the frame's nearly done. Hooray. ...I can't believe my husband nearly convinced me it wasn't "a big deal" if we lost a bit of land down the side! Yay! 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