Hi guys,
My builder is getting ready for rendering the external walls, and asked me to choose from Dulux colours. On the scope of work I signed with the builder, it’s ROCKCOTE acrylic render. Does ROCKCOTE acrylic render have the same colour range to choose from as Dulux ? Which brand is better ? I’m looking at the tranquil retreat or terrace white from Dulux colour range. I was told by a rendering company yesterday that ROCKCOTE acrylic render cost $10 per square meter as it requires primer whereas Dulux acrylic render doesn’t, but the end result is the same? Any advice will be really appreciated.
Many thanks,
Judy
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Browse Forums General Discussion  22 Mar 2021 59 Loyal Member Re: Acrylic render: Dulux or ROCKCOTE 3May 05, 2023 9:44 pm  alexp79What are your external walls made of? IMHO any render requires primer. Hi Alex, thanks for the reply. my external wall is brick. Sorry for the typo in my post, i meant I was told rockcote acrylic render cost $10 more than dulux. Today I called a couple more renderers , they told me the prices of the two brands are the same. Which one do you Recommend? Judy 04 May 2017 1,883 NSW Gold Member Re: Acrylic render: Dulux or ROCKCOTE 4May 06, 2023 1:30 am I don't think there is much difference, frankly. For brick I would rather go with traditional sand cement or lime cement and spray 1.5-2 mm of silicon or silicon silicate decorative texture over. Not a big fun of acrylic renders, they are in the bottom of the food chain as it gets to durability and longevity, also mostly they are applied manually, therefore, higher labor costs. But, unfortunately, there is not much options in Australia as the market is completely monopolised by Rockcote and Dulux here. 01 Aug 2019 150 Bronze Member Re: Acrylic render: Dulux or ROCKCOTE 5May 06, 2023 9:37 am hi, need to get a scope of works from the builder/renderer first, generally most will not follow the specification from manufacturer. If choose a Dulux colour you CANNOT get same colour from Rockcote, They can mix the same formula but they do not have have Dulux Base or Dulux Tints this is important for repairs, painting timber, molds, trims, pergolas later on in life about 95% of rendered homes have incorrect colour on them the best way is to paint walls with whatever brand the colour comes from, Taubmans colour=Taubmans Paint, Dulux colour=Dulux Paint, Rockcote colour=Rockcote Paint 22 Mar 2021 59 Loyal Member Re: Acrylic render: Dulux or ROCKCOTE 6May 07, 2023 12:37 pm alexp79I don't think there is much difference, frankly. For brick I would rather go with traditional sand cement or lime cement and spray 1.5-2 mm of silicon or silicon silicate decorative texture over. Not a big fun of acrylic renders, they are in the bottom of the food chain as it gets to durability and longevity, also mostly they are applied manually, therefore, higher labor costs. But, unfortunately, there is not much options in Australia as the market is completely monopolised by Rockcote and Dulux here. Hi Alex, thanks for the reply. Is this silicon render? Does it last longer than acrylic render? And what about the cost compared with acrylic render? Many thanks, Judy 22 Mar 2021 59 Loyal Member Re: Acrylic render: Dulux or ROCKCOTE 7May 07, 2023 12:43 pm Mirrmu83hi, need to get a scope of works from the builder/renderer first, generally most will not follow the specification from manufacturer. If choose a Dulux colour you CANNOT get same colour from Rockcote, They can mix the same formula but they do not have have Dulux Base or Dulux Tints this is important for repairs, painting timber, molds, trims, pergolas later on in life about 95% of rendered homes have incorrect colour on them the best way is to paint walls with whatever brand the colour comes from, Taubmans colour=Taubmans Paint, Dulux colour=Dulux Paint, Rockcote colour=Rockcote Paint Hi Mirrmu83, Many thanks for the reply. This is for the colour for the rockcote hydro tech coloured renders. I was told by rockcote store that this is the sealer with texture I can choose, but they have colour charts which have the same names as dulux, such as the terrace white or tranquil repress, which are the two colours im trying to choose from. Many thanks, Judy 01 Aug 2019 150 Bronze Member Re: Acrylic render: Dulux or ROCKCOTE 8May 07, 2023 4:07 pm yes, if you want dulux colour you need a dulux product. Rockcote do not have the base and tints that Dulux have. the specification sheet for hydrotech recommends a sealer before the texture if not painting. Better off painting after texture, your walls will stay cleaner, easier to repair. best to get sample pots, paint them out on cardboard for reference, side by side 22 Mar 2021 59 Loyal Member Re: Acrylic render: Dulux or ROCKCOTE 9May 07, 2023 10:25 pm Mirrmu83yes, if you want dulux colour you need a dulux product. Rockcote do not have the base and tints that Dulux have. the specification sheet for hydrotech recommends a sealer before the texture if not painting. Better off painting after texture, your walls will stay cleaner, easier to repair. best to get sample pots, paint them out on cardboard for reference, side by side Did you mean the hydrotech specification recommends a primer before the texture? They have told me the steps should be acrylic render , primer, then coloured hydrotec. And you suggest painting after texture, that means step 4? Or skip primer , adding sealer after coloured hydrotec instead ? Many thanks, Judy Re: Acrylic render: Dulux or ROCKCOTE 10May 08, 2023 10:21 am SavagepuppyHi guys, My builder is getting ready for rendering the external walls, and asked me to choose from Dulux colours. On the scope of work I signed with the builder, it’s ROCKCOTE acrylic render. Does ROCKCOTE acrylic render have the same colour range to choose from as Dulux ? Which brand is better ? I’m looking at the tranquil retreat or terrace white from Dulux colour range. I was told by a rendering company yesterday that ROCKCOTE acrylic render cost $10 per square meter as it requires primer whereas Dulux acrylic render doesn’t, but the end result is the same? Any advice will be really appreciated. Many thanks, Judy Hi Judy I had a long to chat to my renderer this morning who was working on my site today ( my guy is a rendering guru) and I have some answers for you: 1. Rockcote is better than Dulux as you can get a nicer finish in his opinion. 2. You can choose any colour you like with Rockcote, same with Dulux 3. Primer is only used on larger walls so it doesn't dry out too quickly. It has no affect on the quality of the render or the ability for the render to adhere to the walls. So in most cases you probably don't need the primer. Rockcote is a tad more expensive, but we have been using it on our homes for years and we never have had an issue. I hope this helps a bit Cheers Simeon Architectural Homes & Duplexes - specialising in custom designing homes to your budget Get a Free Onsite Consultation Today or send a PM for information, questions or advice. 04 May 2017 1,883 NSW Gold Member Re: Acrylic render: Dulux or ROCKCOTE 11May 08, 2023 11:15 am SavagepuppyHi Alex, thanks for the reply. Is this silicon render? Does it last longer than acrylic render? And what about the cost compared with acrylic render? Many thanks, Judy I don't think you can get them in Australia easily, but silicone renders are more expensive, more durable and they are also self-cleaning. But they can be machine sprayed instead of manually applied, so 400 sqm house can be done in a half a day by a team of two (however, they are usually sprayed over the existing base coat, which, in its turn, can be also machine applied). So the labour costs eventually can be much cheaper. 01 Aug 2019 150 Bronze Member Re: Acrylic render: Dulux or ROCKCOTE 12May 08, 2023 3:29 pm Savagepuppy Mirrmu83yes, if you want dulux colour you need a dulux product. Rockcote do not have the base and tints that Dulux have. the specification sheet for hydrotech recommends a sealer before the texture if not painting. Better off painting after texture, your walls will stay cleaner, easier to repair. best to get sample pots, paint them out on cardboard for reference, side by side Did you mean the hydrotech specification recommends a primer before the texture? They have told me the steps should be acrylic render , primer, then coloured hydrotec. And you suggest painting after texture, that means step 4? Or skip primer , adding sealer after coloured hydrotec instead ? Many thanks, Judy Rockcote suggest primer (tinted) if don't paint/seal after texture. Painted walls at the end is best outcome. Hydrotech is most likely a silicone texture render, Dulux used to make one called Powerfinish (not sure if still in the product line). They do repel water better than standard texture, will still absorb water if rains enough (are porous) Texture companies can make every colour on the paint tinting database, categorically cannot give you the same colour as a Dulux product. 22 Mar 2021 59 Loyal Member Re: Acrylic render: Dulux or ROCKCOTE 13May 08, 2023 4:09 pm Mirrmu83 Savagepuppy Mirrmu83yes, if you want dulux colour you need a dulux product. Rockcote do not have the base and tints that Dulux have. the specification sheet for hydrotech recommends a sealer before the texture if not painting. Better off painting after texture, your walls will stay cleaner, easier to repair. best to get sample pots, paint them out on cardboard for reference, side by side Did you mean the hydrotech specification recommends a primer before the texture? They have told me the steps should be acrylic render , primer, then coloured hydrotec. And you suggest painting after texture, that means step 4? Or skip primer , adding sealer after coloured hydrotec instead ? Many thanks, Judy Rockcote suggest primer (tinted) if don't paint/seal after texture. Painted walls at the end is best outcome. Hydrotech is most likely a silicone texture render, Dulux used to make one called Powerfinish (not sure if still in the product line). They do repel water better than standard texture, will still absorb water if rains enough (are porous) Texture companies can make every colour on the paint tinting database, categorically cannot give you the same colour as a Dulux product. Hi Alex, Thanks for the reply again. I had a chat with the builder, he said he will use primer, then hydrotec which comes with colour and sealer as well. A Renderer I spoke with yesterday told me even though rockcote specifications specify to use primer before hydrotec, he thinks if the builder allows for three coats, he would rather skip the primer, and add clear paint ( sealer) on top of hydrotec instead . He said the end result will be a lot better in terms of water proof and easiness to clean and maintain, lasts longer too. My builder wants to follow the specifications, the Renderer is saying the specifications are rubbish, he hands on experience tells him what works the best. Which way do you think I should go with? Btw, I’m having a hard time trying to decide on a white to go with monument window and door frames, and monument garage door. Any suggestions. At the moment, I have seen how terrace white looks, it can be very bright on a sunny day. Then tranquil retreat, I haven’t seen how it looks over a whole house, but I would imagine it might be too dark on the whole. House? Any other white you would suggest ? Many thanks, Judy Suggestions please for acrylic rendering Color to match austral brick urban one pepper. Pic for reference. Thanks 0 12869 Has anyone had experience with using this surfacing? I have read it can stain easily. 0 15606 4 7336 |
