Browse Forums General Discussion 1 Jul 28, 2021 2:07 am Hi I am looking to build my double storey house in Western Sydney. I have a swimming pool adjacent to the house (only 400mm coping away from the hosue). As this is a corner block and the pool is on the secondary frontage of the house, access shouldn't be an issue building the pool after the house is built. However, my concern is, even though I will have to put deeper piers in the building near the pool, will I be facing any issue building the pool after the house is built? I tried to discuss this with couple of pool builders. One is saying, as the pool is so close to the house, it would be risky to do the pool shell letter. While other builder is saying we can do the house first and then built the pool. Can anyone advise from your experience if I can do the pool after the building is completed even though it is very close the building? Will I face any issue if I do the pool later given there is no access issue at all. Re: Pool adjacent to house can be before or after the house? 2Jul 28, 2021 5:55 am boneym Hi I am looking to build my double storey house in Western Sydney. I have a swimming pool adjacent to the house (only 400mm coping away from the hosue). As this is a corner block and the pool is on the secondary frontage of the house, access shouldn't be an issue building the pool after the house is built. However, my concern is, even though I will have to put deeper piers in the building near the pool, will I be facing any issue building the pool after the house is built? I tried to discuss this with couple of pool builders. One is saying, as the pool is so close to the house, it would be risky to do the pool shell letter. While other builder is saying we can do the house first and then built the pool. Can anyone advise from your experience if I can do the pool after the building is completed even though it is very close the building? Will I face any issue if I do the pool later given there is no access issue at all. Hi BoneyM As long as you have access and the structural engineer for your house has designed your piers to accomodate the pool I guess it's possible to do it later, but there is not a snowflakes chance in hell that I would ever put a pool in that close after the house has been completed. I wouldn't want to risk the damage that could occur from the excavator hitting the house, or damage to the piers from jack hammering rock ( assuming you are in rock), to concrete splashing on your new walls etc or many other things that can go wrong. We always do our pools first for these reasons. Its very easy to cover the pool shell whilst you build and yes the water will be a green swamp, but that is easier to fix than a damaged house. Good luck and happy building Simeon Architectural Homes & Duplexes - specialising in custom designing homes to your budget Get a Free Onsite Consultation Today or send a PM for information, questions or advice. Re: Pool adjacent to house can be before or after the house? 3Jul 28, 2021 2:52 pm Ashington Homes boneym Hi I am looking to build my double storey house in Western Sydney. I have a swimming pool adjacent to the house (only 400mm coping away from the hosue). As this is a corner block and the pool is on the secondary frontage of the house, access shouldn't be an issue building the pool after the house is built. However, my concern is, even though I will have to put deeper piers in the building near the pool, will I be facing any issue building the pool after the house is built? I tried to discuss this with couple of pool builders. One is saying, as the pool is so close to the house, it would be risky to do the pool shell letter. While other builder is saying we can do the house first and then built the pool. Can anyone advise from your experience if I can do the pool after the building is completed even though it is very close the building? Will I face any issue if I do the pool later given there is no access issue at all. Hi BoneyM As long as you have access and the structural engineer for your house has designed your piers to accomodate the pool I guess it's possible to do it later, but there is not a snowflakes chance in hell that I would ever put a pool in that close after the house has been completed. I wouldn't want to risk the damage that could occur from the excavator hitting the house, or damage to the piers from jack hammering rock ( assuming you are in rock), to concrete splashing on your new walls etc or many other things that can go wrong. We always do our pools first for these reasons. Its very easy to cover the pool shell whilst you build and yes the water will be a green swamp, but that is easier to fix than a damaged house. Good luck and happy building Simeon Thanks Simeon. If the pool shell is done before the build, is there any issue to get the right floor level? Because my home builder is pushing me to do it later saying doing it later will help getting the right floor level of the pool and it will make his life easy as scaffolding wouldn't need to sit in the pool shell and we wouldn't need to clean the rubbish inside the pool shell etc. btw, house builder is not doing the pool. Re: Pool adjacent to house can be before or after the house? 4Jul 28, 2021 3:35 pm Hi boneym, Have you asked Daddy Pool? 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using siphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost, siphonic, eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Pool adjacent to house can be before or after the house? 5Jul 28, 2021 4:17 pm boneym Ashington Homes boneym Hi I am looking to build my double storey house in Western Sydney. I have a swimming pool adjacent to the house (only 400mm coping away from the hosue). As this is a corner block and the pool is on the secondary frontage of the house, access shouldn't be an issue building the pool after the house is built. However, my concern is, even though I will have to put deeper piers in the building near the pool, will I be facing any issue building the pool after the house is built? I tried to discuss this with couple of pool builders. One is saying, as the pool is so close to the house, it would be risky to do the pool shell letter. While other builder is saying we can do the house first and then built the pool. Can anyone advise from your experience if I can do the pool after the building is completed even though it is very close the building? Will I face any issue if I do the pool later given there is no access issue at all. Hi BoneyM As long as you have access and the structural engineer for your house has designed your piers to accomodate the pool I guess it's possible to do it later, but there is not a snowflakes chance in hell that I would ever put a pool in that close after the house has been completed. I wouldn't want to risk the damage that could occur from the excavator hitting the house, or damage to the piers from jack hammering rock ( assuming you are in rock), to concrete splashing on your new walls etc or many other things that can go wrong. We always do our pools first for these reasons. Its very easy to cover the pool shell whilst you build and yes the water will be a green swamp, but that is easier to fix than a damaged house. Good luck and happy building Simeon Thanks Simeon. If the pool shell is done before the build, is there any issue to get the right floor level? Because my home builder is pushing me to do it later saying doing it later will help getting the right floor level of the pool and it will make his life easy as scaffolding wouldn't need to sit in the pool shell and we wouldn't need to clean the rubbish inside the pool shell etc. btw, house builder is not doing the pool. What we do is get our surveyor to peg out the slab and mark the FFL ( finished floor level of the slab) and also mark out the corners of the pool and the finished height of the coping). We have done this a number of times and have never had an issue. We then cover the pool shell with a combination of treated 100x25 planks and then cover that in in formply. This works a charm. You can scaffold around it, you will still end up with a small amount of debri in the pool but you just vacuum that clean in the end. I hope this makes sense. I can email you some photos of what it looks like if you like Cheers Simeon Architectural Homes & Duplexes - specialising in custom designing homes to your budget Get a Free Onsite Consultation Today or send a PM for information, questions or advice. Re: Pool adjacent to house can be before or after the house? 6Jul 29, 2021 12:39 pm boneym Hi I am looking to build my double storey house in Western Sydney. I have a swimming pool adjacent to the house (only 400mm coping away from the hosue). As this is a corner block and the pool is on the secondary frontage of the house, access shouldn't be an issue building the pool after the house is built. However, my concern is, even though I will have to put deeper piers in the building near the pool, will I be facing any issue building the pool after the house is built? I tried to discuss this with couple of pool builders. One is saying, as the pool is so close to the house, it would be risky to do the pool shell letter. While other builder is saying we can do the house first and then built the pool. Can anyone advise from your experience if I can do the pool after the building is completed even though it is very close the building? Will I face any issue if I do the pool later given there is no access issue at all. + Following Re: Pool adjacent to house can be before or after the house? 7Jul 29, 2021 4:09 pm boneym Ashington Homes boneym Hi I am looking to build my double storey house in Western Sydney. I have a swimming pool adjacent to the house (only 400mm coping away from the hosue). As this is a corner block and the pool is on the secondary frontage of the house, access shouldn't be an issue building the pool after the house is built. However, my concern is, even though I will have to put deeper piers in the building near the pool, will I be facing any issue building the pool after the house is built? I tried to discuss this with couple of pool builders. One is saying, as the pool is so close to the house, it would be risky to do the pool shell letter. While other builder is saying we can do the house first and then built the pool. Can anyone advise from your experience if I can do the pool after the building is completed even though it is very close the building? Will I face any issue if I do the pool later given there is no access issue at all. Hi BoneyM As long as you have access and the structural engineer for your house has designed your piers to accomodate the pool I guess it's possible to do it later, but there is not a snowflakes chance in hell that I would ever put a pool in that close after the house has been completed. I wouldn't want to risk the damage that could occur from the excavator hitting the house, or damage to the piers from jack hammering rock ( assuming you are in rock), to concrete splashing on your new walls etc or many other things that can go wrong. We always do our pools first for these reasons. Its very easy to cover the pool shell whilst you build and yes the water will be a green swamp, but that is easier to fix than a damaged house. Good luck and happy building Simeon Thanks Simeon. If the pool shell is done before the build, is there any issue to get the right floor level? Because my home builder is pushing me to do it later saying doing it later will help getting the right floor level of the pool and it will make his life easy as scaffolding wouldn't need to sit in the pool shell and we wouldn't need to clean the rubbish inside the pool shell etc. btw, house builder is not doing the pool. Thats a typical builder response. He just wants to do his thing without any extra hassle and then leave the extra work to someone else later. You should 100% do the pool first for the reason Simeon outlined. The pool shell will normally become a structural part of the footings. All parties (builder and pool builder) should be working from a set datum so getting the right heights is simple. Pool builders do it all the time and as Simeon mentioned if you get the surveyor to do the set out of the pool and heights then it's all good. The pool shell is covered during construction but it may have to be done with some scaffolding if you are going double storey next to the pool. The pool does end up with water and rubbish in it but thats standard and the pool builder just cleans it out before the final finish. It just takes a little bit more planning, and there will be some extra costs for the cover and scaffolding but a decent builder should know that putting the pool in first is going to give the best outcome and shouldn't be phased by it. I would expect that the actual pool construction would be cheaper doing it first so overall cost probably won't be that different. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Pool adjacent to house can be before or after the house? 8Jul 29, 2021 4:39 pm As noted above definitly possible and probably preferred to do the pool first. In fact we recently moved into our newly built home which is tightly wrapped around pool on 2 sides. The upper level extends over 1/3 of the pool also. Our builder was clear the pool should go in first. Our builder actually met with pool builder to agree how it would all work and ensure they were on same page with finished heights etc. The hard pool cover isnt a big deal and they are built to handle walking over etc. The cover was over our pool for about 6 months and there wasnt too much rubbish in there. Re: Pool adjacent to house can be before or after the house? 9Jul 30, 2021 7:18 pm supersleuth As noted above definitly possible and probably preferred to do the pool first. In fact we recently moved into our newly built home which is tightly wrapped around pool on 2 sides. The upper level extends over 1/3 of the pool also. Our builder was clear the pool should go in first. Our builder actually met with pool builder to agree how it would all work and ensure they were on same page with finished heights etc. The hard pool cover isnt a big deal and they are built to handle walking over etc. The cover was over our pool for about 6 months and there wasnt too much rubbish in there. Thanks super sleuth. If you don't mind, could you please advise how much it cost you for the hard cover for 6 months? Re: Pool adjacent to house can be before or after the house? 10Nov 05, 2021 11:59 am boneym supersleuth As noted above definitly possible and probably preferred to do the pool first. In fact we recently moved into our newly built home which is tightly wrapped around pool on 2 sides. The upper level extends over 1/3 of the pool also. Our builder was clear the pool should go in first. Our builder actually met with pool builder to agree how it would all work and ensure they were on same page with finished heights etc. The hard pool cover isnt a big deal and they are built to handle walking over etc. The cover was over our pool for about 6 months and there wasnt too much rubbish in there. Thanks super sleuth. If you don't mind, could you please advise how much it cost you for the hard cover for 6 months? Really sorry mate just saw your question now. Probably too late but for anyone else, cost was $1400 for 6 months hardcover. We are building a second dwelling and are currently selecting window and door frames. We want to blend into the forest and also bring out the stone work and the fake wood… 0 24016 Hmm, it really depends. 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