Browse Forums General Discussion 1 Oct 03, 2020 9:52 pm Hi, I have been dealing with a good sales consultant at Metricon, he mentioned that I can't use CDC as my floor / building size exceeds the max limit for the block size e.g. 350m2 floor space on a 709m2.block. only option is through council. I want to use a CDC as I am being told council will want me to create a step down to garage, as when levelling land that the fill would be too high on garage side (limit 500mm) this would cost 20k on top of 25k site costs. Anyone able to shed some light on this? Build is in Box Hill, Sydney. Re: Metricon telling me I can't use CDC is this correct? 2Oct 04, 2020 7:45 am Have you checked what permissions you require that can be found in your Section 149 Planning Certificate? This will contain information on how the property can be developed and whether there are restrictions on the development. Ring/email your local council Building department and check with them. They should be able to give you a response to your question. I would want to be finding out this myself especially if the builder is saying you will need to pay an extra 20k. Builders have many 'tricks' to add more costs, especially with the footings. Be informed. Re: Metricon telling me I can't use CDC is this correct? 3Oct 04, 2020 8:25 am Hey Bcr83 The Builder doesn't want you to get your own CDC OT, Unfortunately, Sales consultants aren't qualified to give Planning, Building and Engineering advice Their job is to get your (initial) deposit for the Preparation of Plans, after that the Builders Job is to build and maximise profits rather than go broke on the free giveaways the salesman's promised. It's one of the oldest sales tricks in the book New Homes Sales tricks and techniques Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Metricon telling me I can't use CDC is this correct? 4Oct 04, 2020 8:27 am Thanks both, yes definitely wasn't sure hence me coming on here. My land hasn't settled yet it doesn't a couple of weeks so I don't even have the 149 certificate. I gather I can speak to council and they should be able to tell me exactly what can be done. Admittedly the consultant showed me from what I thought was council specifics for that area in terms of zoning and how that applied to CDC limits Re: Metricon telling me I can't use CDC is this correct? 7Oct 07, 2020 11:44 am Bcr83 Thanks Stewie will do mate here's the gross floor area table from Part 3 of the General Housing code : 3.9 Maximum gross floor area of all buildings Quote: Quote: (1) The maximum gross floor area of all buildings on a lot is shown in the following table—
you can exclude a few areas such as one car space and some other things ( see below definition) gross floor area has the same meaning as it has in the Standard Instrument. However, in Part 3, 3B, 3C or 3D it means the sum of the floor area of each floor of a building measured from the internal face of external walls, or from the internal face of walls separating the building from any other building, measured at a height of 1.4m above the floor, and includes habitable rooms in a basement or an attic, but excludes the following— Quote: (a) any storage area, vehicular access area, loading area, garbage area or services located in a basement, Quote: (b) 1 car parking space per dwelling (including access to the parking space), Quote: (c) any terrace or balcony with outer walls less than 1.4m high, Quote: (d) voids above a floor at the level of a storey or storey above, Quote: (e) any common area intended to be used by occupants of the building to access dwellings on higher or lower storeys of the building such as a stairwell or lift shaft. Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au Re: Metricon telling me I can't use CDC is this correct? 10Oct 07, 2020 11:56 am Bcr83 That's really helpful, the consultant took out the void and a few other things e.g. one car space. Would storage areas be defined as WIR's?? unfortunately not, but you do measure from the internal walls which might save you a few sqm and you can exclude your alfresco. also in relation to your other question max cut and fill is 600mm whats the fall across your site? Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au Re: Metricon telling me I can't use CDC is this correct? 11Oct 07, 2020 12:02 pm Bcr83 I am doing a Metricon Waterford 51 on a 712sqm block. We got it 388m2 which is a out the 335 I just had a look at the plans and it looks like Metricon have milked the standards as much as possible. The house is 473 sqm and they have managed to pull 85 sqm out, so it sounds like they are trying. There are a few inefficient hallways that could be tightened up to get that area down a bit but I assume thats probably part of the reason why you love the design Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au Re: Metricon telling me I can't use CDC is this correct? 12Mar 29, 2021 10:22 pm Bcr83 Hi, I have been dealing with a good sales consultant at Metricon, he mentioned that I can't use CDC as my floor / building size exceeds the max limit for the block size e.g. 350m2 floor space on a 709m2.block. only option is through council. I want to use a CDC as I am being told council will want me to create a step down to garage, as when levelling land that the fill would be too high on garage side (limit 500mm) this would cost 20k on top of 25k site costs. Anyone able to shed some light on this? Build is in Box Hill, Sydney. Hi, I was hoping you could enlighten me on which avenue you went with in terms of getting the Waterford 51 approved re:floor space. Did you end up going with council instead of CDC? Also did you have to shrink the house down so comply with max floor space regulations? If so where did you modify? We are looking at building the Waterford 51 in Cherrybrook- CDC will only allow 357m2 and council- 380m2. Would greatly appreciate your insight! Thanks!! Re: Metricon telling me I can't use CDC is this correct? 13Mar 30, 2021 8:13 am Niro88 Bcr83 Hi, I have been dealing with a good sales consultant at Metricon, he mentioned that I can't use CDC as my floor / building size exceeds the max limit for the block size e.g. 350m2 floor space on a 709m2.block. only option is through council. I want to use a CDC as I am being told council will want me to create a step down to garage, as when levelling land that the fill would be too high on garage side (limit 500mm) this would cost 20k on top of 25k site costs. Anyone able to shed some light on this? Build is in Box Hill, Sydney. Hi, I was hoping you could enlighten me on which avenue you went with in terms of getting the Waterford 51 approved re:floor space. Did you end up going with council instead of CDC? Also did you have to shrink the house down so comply with max floor space regulations? If so where did you modify? We are looking at building the Waterford 51 in Cherrybrook- CDC will only allow 357m2 and council- 380m2. Would greatly appreciate your insight! Thanks!! Hi Niro88 I just went and read The Hills DCP 2012 ( link below) , I am sure someone who knows more will tell me if I am wrong, but it would seem that they dont have an FSR control but rather work on a site coverage model, so 45% building footprint is allowed. That would mean for a 700sqm site you can have 315sqm on the ground floor and conceivable the same up stairs or at leat 200 sqm which would give you youre 51 sq house. I would suggest speaking to Metricon as they do a lot of work out there or even your own town planner. I can send you a number if you like for some independent professional advice. Just let me know https://www.thehills.nsw.gov.au/Buildin ... ntrol-Plan cheers Simeon Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au Hi All, see above image. 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