Browse Forums General Discussion 1 Feb 25, 2009 9:36 am Until june, the federal and NSW state governments are giving generous rebates on Electric Hot water Units with heat pumps when they are installed as a replacement for an electric storage unit. As of 2010 traditional electric storage units (above 90 liters) will be a thing of the past. Manufacturers will only be making units with heat pumps over 90 liters. A Rheem HDI- 310 costs (retail) $3790. Until June the total rebate is $3548. Installation costs would most likely be between $200 and $400 . I imagine its similar in other states. Re: (almost) Free electric hot water units for NSW 2Feb 25, 2009 9:41 am AWESOME POST vvs mand!!
Thanks for the heads up.. Re: (almost) Free electric hot water units for NSW 4Feb 25, 2009 10:12 am Just made it an announcement!! Re: (almost) Free electric hot water units for NSW 5Feb 26, 2009 4:11 pm If you go to http://www.hotwaterrebate.com.au you can work out how much rebate you get! Yay Our Blog! http://cityplantation.blogspot.com | Building the Havana 485 with Plantation Homes (Henley) Re: (almost) Free electric hot water units for NSW 6Feb 26, 2009 5:54 pm yes, the rebate figures I gave relate to sydney. (is there anywhere else?) the rebates vary according to different climatic regions. The prices I quoted were from Reece, so theres room to bargain. dealing with reece can be like doing business in a middle eastern bazaar.
Im sure theres other brands available, but from my experience, I'd recommend staying away from Dux, if indeed they make a heat pump. Re: (almost) Free electric hot water units for NSW 7Mar 01, 2009 8:18 pm Which one of the hot water systems is better? Gas, solar, or heat pump?? I've got no idea... and I've got a electric hot water system in my place so maybe it's a good time to upgrade?? Thanks guys! Re: (almost) Free electric hot water units for NSW 8Mar 25, 2009 8:32 pm some estates specify solar or gas. Some estates specify solar only with electric boosted or gas boosted. Electric is more expensive to run & the tank size for gas is smaller than electric. (basically you don't need such a large tank to do the job) Re: (almost) Free electric hot water units for NSW 9Mar 30, 2009 4:35 pm Quote: Electric is more expensive to run & the tank size for gas is smaller than electric. Thats the thing about electric hot water units powered by a heat pump. They are cheaper to run than a gas storage unit. Re: (almost) Free electric hot water units for NSW 11Apr 10, 2009 7:58 pm Gester If you go to http://www.hotwaterrebate.com.au you can work out how much rebate you get! Yay IS there a similar website with all the different systems on it??? That one only has Dux systems. We're looking at getting a gas boosted, solar hot water system, as we will be on gas bottles where we are building. Re: (almost) Free electric hot water units for NSW 12Apr 10, 2009 10:54 pm Quote: How much you can save on heat pump each year? Thats kind of a stupid question. It depends on the amount of hot water you use. A heat pump uses 65% less energy than a conventional electric hot water unit. Re: (almost) Free electric hot water units for NSW 13Apr 11, 2009 8:22 pm vvs mand Quote: How much you can save on heat pump each year? A heat pump uses 65% less energy than a conventional electric hot water unit. That's a kind of stupid answer to a reasonable question. If you were to read the thread, you'd notice the question related to the gas vrs heat pump statement in the post previous. Perhaps you may like to give a percentage comparison between heat pump and gas. Then your reply could be something other than rude and intangible. I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken! Re: (almost) Free electric hot water units for NSW 14Apr 12, 2009 2:23 am Quote: That's a kind of stupid answer to a reasonable question. Why? His question, "How much you can save on heat pump each year?" is akin to asking how long is a piece of string. The answer is relative to how much hot water one uses in a year. No matter how you want to interpret it. If you read the entire thread, you'd realise that its primarily about replacing an electric storage hot water unit with a heat pump and not about comparing gas hot water storage units with heat pumps. Re: (almost) Free electric hot water units for NSW 15Apr 12, 2009 7:54 am vvs mand If you read the entire thread, you'd realise that its primarily about replacing an electric storage hot water unit with a heat pump and not about comparing gas hot water storage units with heat pumps. Fair enough. As you started the thread, I agree. Perhaps though, readers of this thread are thinking about the alternative choices. The alternatives under the federal $1600 rebate scheme are not just heat pump, but gas and solar too! A discussion about costing benefits would benefit us all. I'd certainly like comparison info between heat pump and gas. But to return to your original intent, another cost implication with heat pump for people to factor in, is a heat pump is far more efficient at heating in warmer temperatures, therefore they are normally run during the day (normal tariff 11 in Qld @ 14.81c/kW/h) as opposed to an element electric which is often run during the night (off-peak tariff 31 in Qld @ 6.04c/kW/h). You may find though, that it is viable and permissible to connect to another controlled tariff (like tariff 33 in Qld @ 8.89 c/kW/h) which is generally available during the day (off for a max of 6 hours per day normally around peak usage times). This, coupled with a spring reserve timer, and you are close to achieving the price of full off peak with the benefits of a heat pump. You'll need to work this out with your electrician early though. For Qlders, the Govt announced on Thursday, they are creating a new solar hot water system incentive (part of an election commitment ) where they will deliver 200 000 heavily subsidized solar HWS over the next 3 years. The figures mentioned so far are $100 for pensioners and concession card holders and $500 for others. Sounds good but I'm not sure if this includes gas and heat pump units. For the record, I'm sold on the heat pump. Ian I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken! Re: (almost) Free electric hot water units for NSW 16Apr 12, 2009 9:42 am Many thanks guys! Sorry but I'm not "he" but "she" and I'm not an Aussie and not a professional person. To be honest, I'm lack of those knowledge. Thank you for clarifying all these. Re: (almost) Free electric hot water units for NSW 17Apr 12, 2009 3:38 pm Quote: The alternatives under the federal $1600 rebate scheme are not just heat pump The installation costs of a heat pump are far cheaper than that of a solar unit. Although the rebates are similar, the cost of a solar unit is more expensive and the installation costs are far more expensive. Expect to pay more than $1300 over the rebate for a solar unit installed (varies accordingly) With a heat pump, the installed cost is around $600 above rebate. (for a straight changeover) In sydney the entire rebate is $3548. It varies from region to region. And gas doesnt really come into it, as the rebate is given for changing over from electric to solar or heat pump. Re: (almost) Free electric hot water units for NSW 18Apr 13, 2009 7:18 am vvs mand And gas doesnt really come into it, as the rebate is given for changing over from electric to solar or heat pump. True. I was thinking about the Brisbane City Council rebate......sorry for the digression! I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken! Re: (almost) Free electric hot water units for NSW 19Apr 13, 2009 7:46 am vvs mand Quote: The alternatives under the federal $1600 rebate scheme are not just heat pump The installation costs of a heat pump are far cheaper than that of a solar unit. Although the rebates are similar, the cost of a solar unit is more expensive and the installation costs are far more expensive. Expect to pay more than $1300 over the rebate for a solar unit installed (varies accordingly) According to Origin Energy the yearly savings from solar could be anything from $300 to$700. So your increased initial installation costs would quickly be rewarded- a case of 'spend a dollar to save two' methinks. Re: (almost) Free electric hot water units for NSW 20Apr 13, 2009 3:07 pm wiremu According to Origin Energy the yearly savings from solar could be anything from $300 to$700. So your increased initial installation costs would quickly be rewarded- a case of 'spend a dollar to save two' methinks. 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