Hello,
We are onto KDR in Victoria and in the process of collecting contracts from various builders. We have been given below items estimated in bulk, but would really like to know how much on average individual item costs.
- Silt and pollution retention barrier.
- Termite protection
- Re-establishment survey + re-pegging
- Temporary power
- Reconnection to existing sewer point
- Storm water connection
- Double Handling.
- Crushed rock to driveway during construction,
- Tree Protection Zone - Council tree 3m height in natures trip
- Occupancy permit for footpath
- Tigertailing, spotter and dogman
- Permit to work to overhead power lines
Hey
Kotex Welcome to the forum
If you are on a Fixed Price or
Lump Sum Contract then the Builders service providers, trade and suppliers will not give you that information.
Try an alternate contract form such as Cost plus, etc. then get 3 Builders to quote competitively, make sure you have complete control of all the Drawings, Engineering, Species, etc
OT, You can give the builders access to your on line service providers portals for pricing
Cheers
Chris
Thanks for that reply.
Our situation is we are going with a volume builder and got the site cost estimated - it is very much higher than the original estimate.
If i get to know the above itemize costs, I will be in a more comfort to negotiate a bit with the builder. All above items are very much standard stuff, I believe someone must have got some sense on cost associated to that at least after the work finished and invoiced.
Items are lumped together so owners can't scrutinise individual costs, so there is no negotiating. LOL, if you get them to knock off a bit here.. then they'll add it elsewhere, eg siteworks, engineering, variations.
After contracts are signed and before the Builder starts on site, your whole build is repriced using forecast price increases, trade rates and availability... the builder will come back to you for those price increases in one form or another.
basically you pay the variation increase or cancel before they start on site...BTW, most battlers just pay up
OT, With Cost Plus contracts all costs are disclosed if you are unhappy with a builders quote you can go get your own, then pay the builders margin, etc. Cost plus works extremely well for all parties when using 3D Bim.
Cheers
Chris
Thanks again - ok, disappointing process.
Do you know major volume builders like to go with Cost plus contracts ?
The process is what it is ....everything in the quote and contract favours the builder
Who owns copyright of the drawings?
If they are yours you can select any builder to quote, if they belong to the builder then all bets are off others quoting
A word of caution on cost plus, you will require very good documents ( your own), ie, drawings engineering, specis, data, costs. and site supervision to keep on top.
Volume builders haven't changed with the times they tend to keep everything to the bar minimum in costs and wages that's how they roll.
OT, The salesman would be the first and highest paid person in the building company... they bring in the DEALS... They are also allowed to make mistakes on the designs and quotes.
Apologies I digress,
Contact the service providers in your state for Water, Electricity , Council , etc. via their builders/ guest net, pay the fees and if you send in your plans they will firm up all the above.
Cheers
Chris
Thank you..all make sense