The CARLISLE HOMES & SPECTRA General Information Thread
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I'm a newbie here.
First of all, I would like to say this forum is very helpful.
I'm planning to build with Carlisle in South East area, knockdown and build (KDBR)
I visited couple display homes of Carlisle and spoke to their sale consultant and one of consultant told me the site cost will be around 60k while other told me around 50k !! My question is how do we know daftly how much of the site cost so we can negotiate?
I haven't decided on which home design of Carlisle (between Sheraton 48 and Granada 41) that we should build yet so I didn't register my details with any consultant.
My question is should we work with the consultant at the Display Home that we like and will build that home design? Or should we work with the consultant at Keysborough which is close to our current house so we can save the travel time? Or which consultant at which site do you recommend?
Thanks!
To those whose build has started - how are you finding the speed of construction? Ours is going at a snails pace and will be well over the contract end date.
Hi there if you wouldn't mind me asking which area of Melbourne you are building and what house design? We have our contract appointment next week and all we are hearing is how slow it is at the moment🤦♀️
To those whose build has started - how are you finding the speed of construction? Ours is going at a snails pace and will be well over the contract end date.
Hi there if you wouldn't mind me asking which area of Melbourne you are building and what house design? We have our contract appointment next week and all we are hearing is how slow it is at the moment🤦♀️
We are in South East suburbs. We will be covered by delay damages which will help with the rent situation but the delay completely messed up our plans. When is your expected site start?
To those whose build has started - how are you finding the speed of construction? Ours is going at a snails pace and will be well over the contract end date.
Hi there if you wouldn't mind me asking which area of Melbourne you are building and what house design? We have our contract appointment next week and all we are hearing is how slow it is at the moment🤦♀️
We are in South East suburbs. We will be covered by delay damages which will help with the rent situation but the delay completely messed up our plans. When is your expected site start?
We are building in SE (Circa Clyde north) as well. Contract is next week CLE told us site start 6 weeks. Fingers crossed. For both of us🤞
I'm planning to build with Carlisle in South East area, knockdown and build (KDBR)
I visited couple display homes of Carlisle and spoke to their sale consultant and one of consultant told me the site cost will be around 60k while other told me around 50k !! My question is how do we know daftly how much of the site cost so we can negotiate?
I visited couple display homes of Carlisle and spoke to their sale consultant and one of consultant told me the site cost will be around 60k while other told me around 50k !! My question is how do we know daftly how much of the site cost so we can negotiate?
I suspect a lot of the project builders like CH are padding their margins in these so called on-site costs so they can advertise a lower sticker price on their houses. The CH breakdown is complete BS, things like traffic management and just an extra general surcharge on KDR. If you start to take a knife to this, they might squeal, it just depends who blinks.
Btw you do need a soil report and survey to have an rough idea. I am lucky enough to have M grade soil and less than 300mm fall across entire site, however being a KDR as well, it's almost always P grade.
My onsite costs were $17K and that's includes double glazing on all windows in a 46 square house (bad orientation). So the $50K figure is bunk unless they are building on swamp land with a 3M fall.
I'm planning to build with Carlisle in South East area, knockdown and build (KDBR)
I visited couple display homes of Carlisle and spoke to their sale consultant and one of consultant told me the site cost will be around 60k while other told me around 50k !! My question is how do we know daftly how much of the site cost so we can negotiate?
I visited couple display homes of Carlisle and spoke to their sale consultant and one of consultant told me the site cost will be around 60k while other told me around 50k !! My question is how do we know daftly how much of the site cost so we can negotiate?
I suspect a lot of the project builders like CH are padding their margins in these so called on-site costs so they can advertise a lower sticker price on their houses. The CH breakdown is complete BS, things like traffic management and just an extra general surcharge on KDR. If you start to take a knife to this, they might squeal, it just depends who blinks.
Btw you do need a soil report and survey to have an rough idea. I am lucky enough to have M grade soil and less than 300mm fall across entire site, however being a KDR as well, it's almost always P grade.
My onsite costs were $17K and that's includes double glazing on all windows in a 46 square house (bad orientation). So the $50K figure is bunk unless they are building on swamp land with a 3M fall.
Good to know, thanks kirashogun for your information! Enjoy your build journey!
skycloud
We are in the earily stages of building (a week into Frame). I think there is something going on as it took a month between our slap finishing and frame starting. It's not only our bulding i can see another Carlisle house in our estate and there seems to be very little movment compared to other bulding around them.
I can see houses that started weeks after our house already have roof titles done.
Could be a worker shortage, not sure.
Hi We are in the earily stages of building (a week into Frame). I think there is something going on as it took a month between our slap finishing and frame starting. It's not only our bulding i can see another Carlisle house in our estate and there seems to be very little movment compared to other bulding around them.
I can see houses that started weeks after our house already have roof titles done.
Could be a worker shortage, not sure.
Hi All, for a double story with standard ducted heating (i.e. no upgrade) do you get two network controls (one on each floor) or just one?
We upgraded our ducted unit to 5 or 6 star, can't remember and had zoning as well. Spent like nearly 4k for the zones and heating unit and found out it was 1 controller which is a joke! . When the heating guys came out to commission the gas we asked them to install one for us. About $150 definitely cheaper to get another added afterwards.
Hi skycloud
We are in the earily stages of building (a week into Frame). I think there is something going on as it took a month between our slap finishing and frame starting. It's not only our bulding i can see another Carlisle house in our estate and there seems to be very little movment compared to other bulding around them.
I can see houses that started weeks after our house already have roof titles done.
Could be a worker shortage, not sure.
We are in the earily stages of building (a week into Frame). I think there is something going on as it took a month between our slap finishing and frame starting. It's not only our bulding i can see another Carlisle house in our estate and there seems to be very little movment compared to other bulding around them.
I can see houses that started weeks after our house already have roof titles done.
Could be a worker shortage, not sure.
Thanks for sharing. Yes, looks like they have severe shortage of trades. Otherwise does not make sense for them to pay us delay damages and still delay completion.
Hi everyone. Can anyone recommend an experienced Sales consultant from Carlisle homes? I'd prefer someone that is located in the east.
Thanks Pearz. I remember the colours person telling us there will be 2 controllers for double storey houses. Clearly that's not the case. Also she had told 2 zones by default in standard heating option - one whole house, 2nd downstairs only - have to wait and see whether that's the case. Should have got that in writing. Thanks for your tip on getting the additional controller through the heating installation folks.
Hi skycloud
Here is our Heating and Cooling from our Tender... We got it part of a sales promo. which had a cost of $4k:
Hope this helps.
Provide 14.7 kW (Nominal cooling capacity), Single phase Brivis add on refrigerated air conditioning to 14 points as per promotion, including:
Larger ducts and duct insulation to suit refrigerated cooling.
Upgrade of the heating unit from the Brivis Compact Classic to 5 Star unit;
2 zone motors and;
2 Networker controllers (thermostat) in lieu of 1 programmable controller, to provide a 2 zone, ZonePlus system.
Refrigerated air conditioning to be controlled via ducted heating units Network controller thermostats located as shown on final drawings.
Provide single phase 32 AMP isolator to Living external wall for installation of external condenser unit on concrete pad.
Provide wall mounted duct to conceal refrigeration pipes, control cable and condensation drain fixed to the external wall.
Zone 1 = First Floor
Zone 2 = Ground Floor
Note: minimum of 2 points per zone due to minimum air flow required to operate refrigerated cooling unit.
To ensure effective operation, one zone at a time should be operated with refrigerated cooling, both zones may be operated with heating.
Hi everyone. Can anyone recommend an experienced Sales consultant from Carlisle homes? I'd prefer someone that is located in the east.
We went through Mario who works from head office but can travel to a display home for walkthrough. We found him very good - he is very experienced as well.
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