Is anyone building with steel frames
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Under main roof 360m2, with 230m2 of verandah and outdoor area under roof also...
Who are you going to build with Robbuilding?
These were November pricing....
Under main roof 360m2, with 230m2 of verandah and outdoor area under roof also...
Under main roof 360m2, with 230m2 of verandah and outdoor area under roof also...
Total home size 600 m2...
Rough budget pricing...
Yours is a huge home!!!
You should be paying around $42,000 for steel and around $35,000 for timber (something wrong with your timber quote for your size home methinks). Steel is roughly 15% higher... Try Stoddarts... if they can't come close, then buy from Victoria (Steel Frame Solutions)... cartage maybe $6,000.
Ed
Steel on the other hand, 90mm framing, and 600 stud spacing... Cheapest quote has been $85k in November.... Went as far south as Newcastle for pricing, but local guys were cheapest...
www.nash.asn.au (National Association of Steel Homes) will give you a list of those in your area.
There are other advantages apart from the termite issue. With steel, all the angles will be dead straight so there is no need for tradies to spend ages making good before the finish. Also electricians and plumbers like steel frames as the pre-drilled holes mean they don't have to drill any holes themselves. Steel permits slightly bigger spans than timber as it is stronger, this lends well to modern open plan living.
For me, the main advantage of using steel is I can erect the frame myself with one other person assisting, as it is light enough for me to lift entire frames and trusses myself.
I have had quotes for a roughly 400m2 2 storey house of between $29k and $66k. The difference is because one company (the aforementioned Steel Frame Solutions) cannot make intermediate floors apparently and therefore quoted for everything except this!!! Goodness alone knows how they manage to be the sole supplier to J G King.....
JB
There are several steel frame suppliers. There are other advantages apart from the termite issue. With steel, all the angles will be dead straight so there is no need for tradies to spend ages making good before the finish. Also electricians and plumbers like steel frames as the pre-drilled holes mean they don't have to drill any holes themselves. Steel permits slightly bigger spans than timber as it is stronger, this lends well to modern open plan living.
For me, the main advantage of using steel is I can erect the frame myself with one other person assisting, as it is light enough for me to lift entire frames and trusses myself.
I have had quotes for a roughly 400m2 2 storey house of between $29k and $66k. The difference is because one company (the aforementioned Steel Frame Solutions) cannot make intermediate floors apparently and therefore quoted for everything except this!!! Goodness alone knows how they manage to be the sole supplier to J G King.....
JB
There are several steel frame suppliers. www.nash.asn.au (National Association of Steel Homes) will give you a list of those in your area.
There are other advantages apart from the termite issue. With steel, all the angles will be dead straight so there is no need for tradies to spend ages making good before the finish. Also electricians and plumbers like steel frames as the pre-drilled holes mean they don't have to drill any holes themselves. Steel permits slightly bigger spans than timber as it is stronger, this lends well to modern open plan living.
For me, the main advantage of using steel is I can erect the frame myself with one other person assisting, as it is light enough for me to lift entire frames and trusses myself.
I have had quotes for a roughly 400m2 2 storey house of between $29k and $66k. The difference is because one company (the aforementioned Steel Frame Solutions) cannot make intermediate floors apparently and therefore quoted for everything except this!!! Goodness alone knows how they manage to be the sole supplier to J G King.....
JB
There are other advantages apart from the termite issue. With steel, all the angles will be dead straight so there is no need for tradies to spend ages making good before the finish. Also electricians and plumbers like steel frames as the pre-drilled holes mean they don't have to drill any holes themselves. Steel permits slightly bigger spans than timber as it is stronger, this lends well to modern open plan living.
For me, the main advantage of using steel is I can erect the frame myself with one other person assisting, as it is light enough for me to lift entire frames and trusses myself.
I have had quotes for a roughly 400m2 2 storey house of between $29k and $66k. The difference is because one company (the aforementioned Steel Frame Solutions) cannot make intermediate floors apparently and therefore quoted for everything except this!!! Goodness alone knows how they manage to be the sole supplier to J G King.....
JB
Steel Frame Solutions makes commercial steel framing too. And the reason SFS does all of JG King homes is that they are a wholly owned subsidiary. I am surprised if they can't accommodate you.
Ed
Except for a couple of long wall sections i was able to handle/stand all wall frames by myself and this was the same with the trusses (11m long and up to 2.5m high) after I had assistance to place them up on the walls.
I don't think we will choose a builder until at least we know they will provide a steel frame/truss home for us... our previous experiences and the horror stories we have heard about the damage termites cause is too vivid in our minds.
Talinsmum we haven't found our builder yet does your Newcastle builder come down the Central Coast or Lake Mac?
Talinsmum we haven't found our builder yet does your Newcastle builder come down the Central Coast or Lake Mac?
yes they do - plus they have display houses in Newcastle/Port Stephens/Maitland & Central Coast area.....
A woman at work is building her house with the same people and they are on the lake
They are a project builder but a smaller one ... we really like their floor plans!
Check out McDonald Jones Homes ..... as I said, steel frames are what they build (but will do timber frames if you ask - rather than the other way around)
Fiona
I have had quotes for a roughly 400m2 2 storey house of between $29k and $66k. The difference is because one company (the aforementioned Steel Frame Solutions) cannot make intermediate floors apparently and therefore quoted for everything except this!!! Goodness alone knows how they manage to be the sole supplier to J G King.....
JB
Steel Frame Solutions makes commercial steel framing too. And the reason SFS does all of JG King homes is that they are a wholly owned subsidiary. I am surprised if they can't accommodate you.
Ed
Ed, I have found out why Steel Frame Solutions can't accommodate me, and anyone building with J G King should take note of this.
Although their frames and trusses are made of steel, their subfloors are apparently made of timber posistrut-type construction. This doesn't really help the termite issue, and there's a number of other reasons why I wouldn't be happy with this compromise.
JB
I have had quotes for a roughly 400m2 2 storey house of between $29k and $66k. The difference is because one company (the aforementioned Steel Frame Solutions) cannot make intermediate floors apparently and therefore quoted for everything except this!!! Goodness alone knows how they manage to be the sole supplier to J G King.....
JB
Steel Frame Solutions makes commercial steel framing too. And the reason SFS does all of JG King homes is that they are a wholly owned subsidiary. I am surprised if they can't accommodate you.
Ed
Ed, I have found out why Steel Frame Solutions can't accommodate me, and anyone building with J G King should take note of this.
Although their frames and trusses are made of steel, their subfloors are apparently made of timber posistrut-type construction. This doesn't really help the termite issue, and there's a number of other reasons why I wouldn't be happy with this compromise.
JB
What you say makes sense... Why don't you tell them - I have seen the steel variety not far from their HO in Ballarat. They are easy to manufature.
Ed
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