Browse Forums Owner Builder Forum Re: owner/builder woes 2Jun 14, 2008 7:45 am Building an architect designed home out of Insulated Concrete Forms on acreage in semi-rural SE Melbourne. Developer approval obtained, engineering complete, getting quotes Re: owner/builder woes 6Jun 14, 2008 9:37 pm thanks for the informative reply minx and you are absolutely not describing me!
we decided to owner build cause DH is a bricklayer(and a good one) with many aquaintances through mirvac.. my son is an apprentice carpenter. DH did glen waverley and is now working at waterways my DH also has played darts for the last 20 years or so and has many social contacts. so we started with friends brother, surveyor another friend levelled the site. DH work contact for slab, plumber nephew...sales rep for bowens, really good price for frame, trusses and aluminium windows. good friends friend is sparky. DH, son and friend erected frame,truss and installed windows. DH doing bricklaying ongoing. next stage...use a company with no contacts, as we were not to concerned about the roof, just needed it DONE so the first time we used a company with no contact , we are very dissatisfied. once our roof is on, DH and my son will install the ducted vac, install the insulation. brother in law to plaster, render, this is his profession. long term darts mate to paint, (choice of 3 painters that we have known for a long time) DH best friends friend is a concretor another nephew is glazier and in the flat pack industry. so he will sort out our laundry, kitchen bathrooms DH to install all tiling DH has contact through mirvac for heat/cooling so the only other thing that we have to deal with with no contact is carpets. oh and my sister in law is 2IC in a curtain /blind company, so thats covered as well and now I know what a noggin is and a lintel as well Jo Re: owner/builder woes 7Jun 14, 2008 11:48 pm Err....zonk...need some new acquaintances.....you have a very useful circle of friends....note to self take up darts.
Hey...there's a thought blow dart the tiler.... mmm....donuts Homer Simpson 1956- Links: Site Costs Ready Reckoner | H1 Addiction Medical Advice | Château TDL: The Backyard Re: owner/builder woes 8Jun 15, 2008 9:07 am Hi Zonk
Sorry to hear or your woes. The roof was our sticking point as well. Have done OB before for a reno and had the same sort of problems. Anything hubby didn't so himself we had problems with Hopefully Monday will bring you good news Anne Grandview 36 on Beautiful Bribie Site Start Dec 5th 2007 Projected completion May 12th 2008 NOPE Handover 24th June 2008 Moved in 11th July 2008 Wating on one final thing - Still - Oct 2009 Re: owner/builder woes 9Jun 15, 2008 7:53 pm Hi Zonk, you sound like you have it all set up like me
I'm glad that it wasn't you that I have described but you would be amazed at the amount of people that owner build and have no construction experience what so ever. It really turns into disaster. By trying to save money, they end up spending more. I have heard all the horror owner builder stories. Good luck with the rest of your house. I have learned so many valuable lessons along the way. The biggest lesson I learned was that I got ripped off or scammed should I say and it cost me 15 grand. What you are experiencing with your roof, I had worse with my stair maker. After 8 months he still had not started my Jarrah staircase. My partner and I went to his factory and ended up in a screaming match with him. Deposit was paid and upon closer inspection of his files, my job was second last with at least 6 others before me. His excuse was that my stairs were architectual designed and he was unsure. Mind you every time I phoned (at least 4 occasions) I got the whole i'll be starting them in two weeks. He never did. He made a smaller set of stairs and my partner was trying to tell him that one of the stringers was bowed and it needed to be fixed. It took over an hour to explain this problem. He refused to come out to look as he said he was so busy he didn't have time. It would of been quicker for him to come out, than the time we spent going through all the drama there. He then pulled out the "what do you want to do about it". At that point my partner lost the plot and was saying do i have to tell you how to do your job. I kid you not he was telling him to use this saw, that saw, this chisell to fix it etc. Could you believe he tried to get my partner to fix the stringer. In the end my partner told him you BETTER be on site on this day and that time, no excuses with a new stringer. Sure enough he came out and fixed it. It wasn't so hard when he got out there and did it. I ended up getting another guy to do my main stairs. He and his business partner finished making it in a week and took a day to install it. Might I add that this was all for stairs only. I'm getting stainless steel ballustrades so they didn't have to worry about that. For getting ripped off 15k and the whole stair thing happening, at those times I wish I had a builder doing my job. Re: owner/builder woes 10Jun 16, 2008 6:24 pm I am yet to start my ob project and am finding it difficult just to get quotes, most dont reply and others i cant get hold of and dont return my calls, Is it that busy out there that the tradies just dont want the work? My house is not small by any means so its not exactly chump change for them.
would I be likely to get a better quote for supply & install directly from the tiling company or through a tiler? also tiling rep tols me it would probably be cheaper for me to organise gutters etc through someone other than them. I'm going to give the concretor /brickie one last ring, you think for a $120k job just for concrete /brickwork he'd be a bit more motivated. Re: owner/builder woes 11Jun 16, 2008 9:14 pm hi all,
just a quick reply, more time t/row to reply at length...I would NEVER have agreed to owner build had we not had the extensive circle of family/friends/freinds of friends/ lined up. tdl...I will give your recommendation some serious thought . DH talked to main supervisor (mirvac) currently building waterways in melb today...supervisor said to DH, look over there... DH yes... supervisor "30 plus homes build being held up waiting for roof tilers" ok, so its not just us, its happening to mirvac too, If mirvac cant get roof tilers, how the hell will I? yikes! note to self....dont panic, its only a roof deep breaths now, Jo Re: owner/builder woes 13Jun 16, 2008 9:33 pm Thanks Paula,
I will post t/row regards todays dramas re: roof tiles I have had another glass of wine now... I am feeling very "whatever" but t/row I will be ready to do whatever it takes to get our roof on Jo Re: owner/builder woes 14Jun 17, 2008 9:13 pm My problems where with my house restumpers they where ment to finish the job mid FEB but they wouldn't turn up when they said they would.
so basicly a 6 week job took them 4 months to complete! My advice to anyone 'specically OB's is to put time penalties into your contracts so that things don't drag on... I had a quick drive by today 15Jun 17, 2008 10:54 pm and.....
yippee! roof tiles were being delivered I am now the proud owner of 388 m2 of boral striata (profile)colour on gunmetal grey roof tiles...or I will be when I pay the tiling company I half expected the tiling co to ring me today demanding progress payment, but they didnt. I rang DH , he went on site on the way home, half the house has had battens installed.safety rails are all up on the roof. DH brought me home 1 tile to make sure it was the correct profile and colour. so as the tiling co have now paid for the tiles (on account of course) 30 days? 60 days probably...maybe 90 who knows? they will now ask for progress payment (80%) yeah right. I would really like to see someone on the roof and someone on the ground with an elevator t/row then tiling co will get their 80 % on delivery its great to know the tiles are there, just need the roof tilers now tiling co would not have ordered tiles if they could not install phew....no more sleepless nights over roof tiles Jo.... hmmm what can I worry about now? Re: I had a quick drive by today 18Jun 18, 2008 7:56 am zonk phew....no more sleepless nights over roof tiles hmmm what can I worry about now? Tile thieves? Simon Building an architect designed home out of Insulated Concrete Forms on acreage in semi-rural SE Melbourne. Developer approval obtained, engineering complete, getting quotes Re: owner/builder woes 20Jun 18, 2008 8:50 pm Paula Ok so make sure DS wants to be a roof tiler. Will be in demand and will make a fortune!! On a serious note, hope it doesnt take too long for you. I've heard that roof tilers dont get paid much..so nobody want to be a roof tiler. The only way you will make money atm is to be your own boss and advertise for your own work Best Price Wardrobes Sliding door robes | Walk in robes Deco panel | Mirror | Melamine 26 to 28 Cottage lane Hackham M: 0402 927 376 http://www.bestpricewardrobes.com.au Trade welcome Hi VK, Think it's worth investing time in an Owner Builder course to equip you with basic knowledge on Australian Building Industry and its regulations. Also, I suggest… 11 24867 Hi all. Anyone know when the $11,000 limit was set in legislation for renovations in QLD? Ive been renovating for 5 years now and this was the limit back then. As we know,… 0 4791 |