Browse Forums Building A New House 1 May 23, 2023 10:57 am Architectural Homes & Duplexes - specialising in custom designing homes to your budget Get a Free Onsite Consultation Today or send a PM for information, questions or advice. Re: How I lost $100,000 and why I will never use steel frame 3May 23, 2023 11:41 am Architectural Homes & Duplexes - specialising in custom designing homes to your budget Get a Free Onsite Consultation Today or send a PM for information, questions or advice. Re: How I lost $100,000 and why I will never use steel frame 6May 23, 2023 12:46 pm Architectural Homes & Duplexes - specialising in custom designing homes to your budget Get a Free Onsite Consultation Today or send a PM for information, questions or advice. Re: How I lost $100,000 and why I will never use steel frame 9May 23, 2023 1:03 pm Architectural Homes & Duplexes - specialising in custom designing homes to your budget Get a Free Onsite Consultation Today or send a PM for information, questions or advice. Re: How I lost $100,000 and why I will never use steel frame 13May 24, 2023 8:30 pm Ardo So why no more steel frames? It was just one company, not s reflection on the steel frame industry. Hi Ardo, We have used two steel companies now, and I do hear that there are some good ones out there, but there are a lot of cowboys as well. We could keep trying more companies till we find a good one but when they all require such large payments up front before they start the design it's a big risk. But there are other issues we don't like as well, namely: 1. Speed - so far it seems to take 8-12 weeks minimum to get your frames from deposit stage to site and then there are so few tradies here in Sydney who erect steel frames that you then need to wait for them to be ready if they are committed on other jobs. Yes we pre book them but it is very hard to get an accurate delivery date so if the framing companies miss their date you lose the tradies to another job. A good timber framing crew can erect a double story home in 3 weeks. You put your order into one of the many timber yards here in Sydney and you will have your material on site in a day or two. 2. Weakness of the frames - Overall I believe there is no difference, however we are struggling to attached wall hung vanities and TV units to steel frames. As the steel frame is a U or C channel and the gauge of steel is quite thin, screws don't have the same purchase as they do with a 90 x 45 stick of timber. So heavy wall hung joinery is less off an option. 3. General lack of flexibility for onsite modifications - this one is self explanatory, but is a big one when you are doing custom homes and the clients come to site all the time and want changes when things don't look how they imagined on 2d plans. I could add more, but it's been a long day Cheers Simeon Architectural Homes & Duplexes - specialising in custom designing homes to your budget Get a Free Onsite Consultation Today or send a PM for information, questions or advice. Re: How I lost $100,000 and why I will never use steel frame 14May 26, 2023 10:02 am Question has anyone live in a steel frame double storey house and happy about it? I really can't imagine the noise. For me a simple example I build a timber frame house but the joist they put metal strap on it "X" shape for extra support. When you walk on it etc.. it just "rings" LOL... BUilder had to cut open the particle board and theeasy fix just put silicone between the metal strap and the timber joist. Supervisor said the strap was tight. Isn't it suppose to be.. I think he also learned his lesson and in future any house he mgd he will make sure he put silicone in between. I can imagine steel frame house will have all sort of sound. I have colorbond roof already feels it's much noisier than a concrete tile roof.But for roof I think I'm willing to accept it since I can't imagine in 2023 people use concrete as their roof for a new house. Re: How I lost $100,000 and why I will never use steel frame 16May 29, 2023 3:23 pm That sucks! Hope it all works out. Good to move away from steel anyway for all your reasons, but it's also thermally poor. Re: How I lost $100,000 and why I will never use steel frame 17May 29, 2023 3:23 pm That sucks! Hope it all works out. Good to move away from steel anyway for all your reasons, but it's also thermally poor. As is per usual for many of the past failed RWH regulations, it is probably traceable to a bureaucrat who's ego overrode the need to seek the appropriate expert… 1 1400 Hi I am wanting some opinions about the build of a steel shed I am going to get one about 4.5 x 2.5 m steel shed and the height will be about 2.3-2.4m high The one I am… 0 14728 For your reference Performance Labels: Window assemblies in housing, except timber windows, must be labelled so the label can be seen when it is in situ. For timber… 6 10252 |