Browse Forums Safer Living Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 81Feb 07, 2015 5:37 pm i'm planning to buy HikVision DS-7716NI-SP/16 NVR http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Hikvisio ... 00384.html there is a good thread on HD CCTV camera on whirlpool forum. Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 83Feb 07, 2015 10:13 pm mirz i'm planning to buy HikVision DS-7716NI-SP/16 NVR http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Hikvisio ... 00384.html there is a good thread on HD CCTV camera on whirlpool forum. any idea on the difference between the DS-7716NI-SP/16 and the DS-7716NI-SP which seems to be about $80 cheaper? http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Hikvision-original-English-version-NVR-DS-7732NI-SP-DS-7716NI-SP-DS-7708NI-SP-Embedded-NVR/32230038807.html Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 84Feb 07, 2015 11:18 pm Very interested in this thread, I'll be watching the outcome, I've been researching the hikvision and they look like good cameras. Didn't realise the ones from aliexpress where the same which is good. IP CCTV system recommendations 85Feb 07, 2015 11:39 pm Hikvisions are great but be aware of cheap ones on eBay etc. there is a spate of people knocking them off commercial installations and possible trying to resell. Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 86Feb 08, 2015 7:43 am Oran Park 660 Corner mirz i'm planning to buy HikVision DS-7716NI-SP/16 NVR http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Hikvisio ... 00384.html there is a good thread on HD CCTV camera on whirlpool forum. any idea on the difference between the DS-7716NI-SP/16 and the DS-7716NI-SP which seems to be about $80 cheaper? http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Hikvision-original-English-version-NVR-DS-7732NI-SP-DS-7716NI-SP-DS-7708NI-SP-Embedded-NVR/32230038807.html I'm on my mobile and can't read much between the two here to compare. Hikvision NVR has series like 76, 77, 79. And then number of channels, like 4, 8, 16, 32. One camera needs 2 channels. For example if you want 4 cameras then you will need 8 channels nvr. In above case you will need to buy 7608 model, and 7616 for up to 8 cameras. but on aliexpress when shopping, pls take care for usual stuff: 1. Seller has sold items in past (orders) and feedback. 2. Some sellers advertise on less price but has high delivery charges. 3. Some seller has a bit higher price but free slow delivery. It's usually a good optio if you aren't in rush. Slow delivery takes about 3 weeks to Melbourne. 4. You can online chat with seller, ask them to package all items you are after and negotiate price and delivery. 5. Aliexpress holds your money until you receive items and give them confirmation to release money to seller. Hope above information would help you. I'm not sure if posting link to another forum is allowed on H1, as lot of other forums don't allow this? You can go to whirlpool and go to gadgets section. I think they are running 4th thread on this now. It's a very thread over there. Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 88Feb 12, 2015 7:14 pm Bels My order of 7 Hiks just made it out before the 2 week Chinese New Year Holiday. Pity my Dahua PTZ didn't. They're all going to be hooked up to my Synology NAS using Surveillance Station. Is the surveillance station is that a program? Is it free or does it cost? That's something I considered for when I do my system is get there recorder or straight to a nas or computer. Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 89Feb 12, 2015 7:52 pm Nic and Shell 1 Bels My order of 7 Hiks just made it out before the 2 week Chinese New Year Holiday. Pity my Dahua PTZ didn't. They're all going to be hooked up to my Synology NAS using Surveillance Station. Is the surveillance station is that a program? Is it free or does it cost? That's something I considered for when I do my system is get there recorder or straight to a nas or computer. Surveillance Station itself is free to install, you get 2 licences free and you pay a licence per camera for any additional camera. As to whether to use a NVR, NVR software on a computer or record straight to a NAS, it's really personal preference. I already had the NAS just sitting there holding data and being under utilised so it was easy to look to Surveillance Station. If all your cameras are of the same brand (eg. either Hikvision or Dahua) you can utilise their own branded NVR software (Hikvision is iVMS and Dahua is PSS) which is free to use up to 16 cameras or so and just loaded on a PC. Then there is Blue Iris, Milestone, etc which is paid software or licenced per camera and also run on a PC. Otherwise the NVR from the respective brand also does the job and is more of an all in one solution. hth Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 90Feb 12, 2015 7:53 pm Nic and Shell 1 Is the surveillance station is that a program? Is it free or does it cost? That's something I considered for when I do my system is get there recorder or straight to a nas or computer. Surveillance Station is a piece of software usually bundled on NAS units from Synology and QNap. It is generally free for 1 - 2 channels, then each extra camera you connect will require another license. It will automatically use the NAS as it's recording storage. Alkira Homes - The Olivia Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 91Feb 13, 2015 11:15 pm Cool thanks for the responses. Is it costly for a license per channel? It's something I will keep looking into, I'm not rushed so plenty of time for now, lol Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 92Feb 13, 2015 11:18 pm Nic and Shell 1 Cool thanks for the responses. Is it costly for a license per channel? It's something I will keep looking into, I'm not rushed so plenty of time for now, lol Yes that's correct. Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 93Apr 23, 2015 11:59 am Bels My order of 7 Hiks just made it out before the 2 week Chinese New Year Holiday. Pity my Dahua PTZ didn't. They're all going to be hooked up to my Synology NAS using Surveillance Station. One of the great things about QNAP/Synology NAS is Surveillance Station. I know with QNAP, you can use their cloud services to register your NAS. I then use that service and the Vmobile app on my Android/Apple devices to monitor my cameras (and house) over the internet. Opens up a lot of possibilities. I'd recommend having a fisheye camera at the entrance and living area, if your alarm goes off (they can hooked up via the internet and a phone app too), you can then connect to your cameras, check for any activity and call police. You could also connect some of your entry, living room and backyard lighting to Z-Wave and turn it on remotely as well. Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 94Apr 23, 2015 12:36 pm Hi Guys, sounds great Just have a question regarding physical connectivity: will you all be wiring it thru the NBN..? If so, if the power is cut, will you have UPS's to support operation/LAN & WAN access..? Not sure how to solve this problem... Or if there is a simple solution you might know of..? Thanks heaps Sent using Tapatalk Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 95Apr 23, 2015 12:39 pm BJ88 we terminate the IP camera cabling to the patch panel, this way you have versatility in that the recorder unit can be moved to any and every room that has a data point. Can you elaborate on how this works? If you have 8 cameras, then I would assume you would have 8 cat6 leads going into the back of the NVR? If you run the cameras back to the patch panel how do you get those 8 lines back to the NVR? Assuming the room where you put the NVR would have to have 8 data points? Cheers, Paul (& Lisa) Parkhill 36 by ClarendonHomes in Coomera Retreat H1 Build Thread And Blog Building Blogs List - Go Ahead And Add Yours!! Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 96Apr 23, 2015 12:51 pm Youll need a seperate POE switch depending on what sort of cameras you use. Normally you would put the Qnap NAS next to the data ports where they get cabled back to. And all connect to the same switch. One thing I looked at is the price difference between a Qnap/Synology NAS vs. a Hikvision/Dahua NVR. The Qnap solution In theory is better as you have backup redundancy and a place for file storage and Media playback, but you need to supply your own POE switch for camera power and the NAS only supplies 2 free camera licenses. All extra cameras are $60-$70 each camera license. Using Tapatalk Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 97Apr 23, 2015 2:21 pm Roomeat Can you elaborate on how this works? If you have 8 cameras, then I would assume you would have 8 cat6 leads going into the back of the NVR? If you run the cameras back to the patch panel how do you get those 8 lines back to the NVR? Assuming the room where you put the NVR would have to have 8 data points? All your 8 cameras would have separate Cat6 cables running back to a central POE switch (or normal /w POE injectors) - your NVR would then hang off the same switch via a single Cat6 cable, whether it's a PC, NAS (QNAP) or dedicated NVR unit. With this configuration it wouldn't matter where in the house the NVR unit is located, as long as it is plugged into the same switch as the IP Cameras. Hope that helps. Alkira Homes - The Olivia Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 98Apr 23, 2015 2:31 pm Roomeat BJ88 we terminate the IP camera cabling to the patch panel, this way you have versatility in that the recorder unit can be moved to any and every room that has a data point. Can you elaborate on how this works? If you have 8 cameras, then I would assume you would have 8 cat6 leads going into the back of the NVR? If you run the cameras back to the patch panel how do you get those 8 lines back to the NVR? Assuming the room where you put the NVR would have to have 8 data points? As a general rule, all your cabling should run from a data point back to a single point in your house That single point should have some ventilation and low dust That single point will have some sort of cabinet with a patch panel The numbers on the patch panel will equate to the number on the data point IE. Living Room 1 Data point = Living Room 1 on the patch panel From that patch panel you would run another cable into a switch located in the cabinet IE. Ports 1-10 on the patch panel have a cable plugged into any port on the switch That switch means that your devices connected to the cables can now talk to each other regardless of location So let's say your cameras are connected to Ports 1-8. Now let's say you have a data point in your living room, port 9. You plug your NAS/NVR into Port 9, then at the patch panel you plug Port 9 into the switch. Because that switch is your central communicator your cameras and NAS/NVR can now talk, it doesn't matter where your NAS/NVR is located. It can be in the cabinet, but it can also be located in the living room. PS. If your NAS/NVR is located in the cabinet, you would just plug it directly into the switch. Also with that sort of cabling, you can run a normal Telstra/voice line to any datapoint in the house from your patch panel. Voice will run easily over CAT6/CAT5E. A long as the Telstra/voice line is in your cabinet. Just to clear up some points earlier about POE camera points externally, you don't need a data point, just a CAT6/CAT5E cable coming out of your eave and wall where the camera will be drilled into. That cable will be neatly connected to the camera to make it all water resistant. Also you can either have a POE switch, or purchase cheap POE injectors which are very quite. These would be located in your cabinet. Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 99Apr 23, 2015 2:44 pm PixiGT Hi Guys, sounds great Just have a question regarding physical connectivity: will you all be wiring it thru the NBN..? If so, if the power is outage, will you have UPS's to support operation/LAN & WAN access..? Not sure how to solve this problem... Or if there is a simple solution you might know of..? Thanks heaps Sent using Tapatalk Most UPS don't have enough power to run for long periods. Realistically they are a short term proposition to neatly shut down devices until power is restored. To keep a POE camera running during a power cut, you would need to have your switch, POE injectors and NAS/NVR running, plus if you plan to use the internet, your ADSL router. If you have them in different locations, that mean more expensive UPS. Having big enough Solar panels fixes that problem during the day. But at night is the real problem. In the meantime, let's see what the Gigafactory delivers over the next few years... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigafactory Re: IP CCTV system recommendations 100Apr 23, 2015 3:11 pm candycandy PixiGT Hi Guys, sounds great Just have a question regarding physical connectivity: will you all be wiring it thru the NBN..? If so, if the power is outage, will you have UPS's to support operation/LAN & WAN access..? Not sure how to solve this problem... Or if there is a simple solution you might know of..? Thanks heaps Sent using Tapatalk Most UPS don't have enough power to run for long periods. Realistically they are a short term proposition to neatly shut down devices until power is restored. To keep a POE camera running during a power cut, you would need to have your switch, POE injectors and NAS/NVR running, plus if you plan to use the internet, your ADSL router. 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