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Do I need to buy more hardware?

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Wateman
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PostPosted: May 01, 2012 10:09 pm 
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So I have attached a picture of the cabinet our builder has installed for our smart wiring. We are in a FTTH estate, and like an earlier poster, I have no idea how to work this!
Our fibre is getting connected this week, and we will be going with iPrimus, who provide a free wireless N router.
My question is, do I need more to make this work? It will the router and whatever else is done upon connection be enough? I get the feeling we may need more, but it doesn't feel right that we would need to get more on top of what the builder installed and what the fibre company and the ISP install.
Also, Is there anything I can do with this while waiting for the fibre connection? I.e. stream movies from my pc to my tv, as both are connected to data points. Or am I just being impatient? Lol

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PostPosted: May 02, 2012 1:04 pm 
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Depending on the number of ports your router has, I reckon you'll need a gigabit switch based upon the patch panel in the photo.

Is your TV a smart TV - its not as simple as hooking your PC and TV and streaming movies - codecs etc will play a big factor. You may require a media player for your TV (a PS3 is a very basic one to consider)

You will also need to have the router in place so that it can all talk to each other.

Probably a good idea to wait and get a professional in for the initial setup and guide you through setting up a LAN and wireless network that is also secure. You don't want anyone stealing that beautiful fast interweb you'll be getting your hands on

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Can anybody tell me what this is, and how it works?
I know it's for the phones, however the company that connects the fibre to our house came to check our set up before they do connection tomorrow looked at it and asked me how do they connect the phone? So I'm worried my builder has done more wrong with all this!

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The picture really isn't clear enough to show what it is doing. A close up of the top would help as to would knowing where the blue cables go. For example do any go from this box down to the white boxes below or all up into the roof. Also where do the black cables on the RHS go?


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the top cables are set up for phone the bottom ones are Network ports., i really don't know why they still do this... as in most new constrcutions each port should be a Non Specific port back toa patch panel then you the home owner can decide what to do with it.

I know it is too late for you but others reading this thread should really take note of what they are getting installed and don't settle for anything less then an Industry Standard 19" rack mounted cabinet as the center of your network.

the only thing that isn't clear about the above photo is where the phine patch ends up with in the cabinet. as far as i can see they go uot to 4 "telephone" only sockets with in the house.

for anyone reading this on wanting to know what to get installed then have a read of this: http://www.overclockers.com.au/wiki/Spe ... rk_Install

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PostPosted: May 13, 2012 5:03 pm 
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That is kind of what I suspected. As for the Krone block it could be one of two types. It could be a harmonica type where essentially every pair of cables is shorted to each other. Ie what ever comes in on pair 1 also goes to 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 , 8 ,9 and 0. Or it could be a standard block where each pair is isolated which then gets jumpered across to the required outlets. I can see wires on the top, so I suspect the latter type, however if so normally the fixed cabling goes on the top side not the bottom and it should come in from behind not from the side. Krone blocks have some nice cable tie 'brackets' on the back for this very purpose.

But yep totally silly way of doing it. If it was me doing this I would have wired each of the blue cables as CAT5/6 terminating on a socket, or as you say even better on a 19" patch panel rather than seperate data and voice. I would then buy (at the least) a 4 way harmonica for the voice and wire the inbound phone line into that, then patch down to the required outlets, same too with data from a ADSL router or hub.

As you say ideally use 19" equipment, however if done properly the kind of box you have would also work for such a 'small' install, just done properly though. I mean to say even the way it has been done greater density could be achieved through using 6 way plates.


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That is kind of what I suspected. As for the Krone block it could be one of two types. It could be a harmonica type where essentially every pair of cables is shorted to each other. Ie what ever comes in on pair 1 also goes to 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 , 8 ,9 and 0. Or it could be a standard block where each pair is isolated which then gets jumpered across to the required outlets. I can see wires on the top, so I suspect the latter type, however if so normally the fixed cabling goes on the top side not the bottom and it should come in from behind not from the side. Krone blocks have some nice cable tie 'brackets' on the back for this very purpose.

But yep totally silly way of doing it. If it was me doing this I would have wired each of the blue cables as CAT5/6 terminating on a socket, or as you say even better on a 19" patch panel rather than seperate data and voice. I would then buy (at the least) a 4 way harmonica for the voice and wire the inbound phone line into that, then patch down to the required outlets, same too with data from a ADSL router or hub.

As you say ideally use 19" equipment, however if done properly the kind of box you have would also work for such a 'small' install, just done properly though. I mean to say even the way it has been done greater density could be achieved through using 6 way plates.


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