Hi,

Firstly, I just came across this forum a couple of days ago and it is a fantastic resource for information with everything to do with building a house.

We have started the process of building a house in Laurimar estate (Doreen. Vic). We are building with JG King homes however they have stated their electricians don’t do the smart wiring we require. The estate is wired with Telstra’s Velocity network (Optic Fibre to the Home) and hence we need to have it smart wired. I have spoken to and emailed two companies over the last week and not one has got back to me with a quote yet, which is dissapointing.

I'm just wandering if anyone here has done the same thing with their house and if so could they recommend someone in Melbourne.

Attached is the house plan. Some of the measurements aren't exact. ie the theatre room is 4.1x3.1 which is small but is all I could get away with.

Below is basically what I want done.. does anyone know roughly what it would cost?

I will have two double powerpoints on the south wall in the garage which is where I would like to locate the patch panel that everything below is connected to.

The location of the smart wired outlets would be (next to powerpoints that will be installed by JG King electrician):

Bed 1 - North wall (west side) 4 outlet panel (Fox, FTA, Telephone, Network)
Bed 2 - West wall (south side) 3 outlet panel (Fox, FTA, Network)
Bed 3 - East wall (south side) 4 outlet panel (Fox, FTA, Telephone, Network)
Theatre - South wall 4 outlet panel (Fox, FTA, Telephone, Network)
Kitchen - Wall phone
Lounge - East wall 4 outlet panel (Fox, FTA, Telephone, Network).
Also the below is AV requirements I would like if you do them as well:

Theatre – Speaker connections to 4 rear surrounds (back north wall each side of doors and about 1 metre in from back wall for other surrounds)
Theatre – HDMI 1.3 and component connections from south wall to projector mount on ceiling 3700mm back.
Theatre – HDMI 1.3 connection and IR sender cable from theatre room to lounge east wall.
That is pretty much it unless you can recommend something different.

Look forward to hearing others ideas and recommendations for installers.

Cheers,

Andy

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Gudday WakeBoard

Welcome to the forum you'll find it a wealth of information....we've got loads of suggestions and opinions......Paula will be happy about the plan.

PS....The Territory still going well....

I wired my house similarly.

whilst i did the theatre myself, the other rooms my builder's electrician did.

So, I would suggest that a regular sparky is going to be capable of everything there. The only thing would be the HDMI and speaker cabling. If it were my house, and I wasn't allowed to do it myself, then I'd be buying the cable myself and giving it to the installer/sparky to install.

The rest of the cable is pretty standard - RG6 for the FTA and Foxtel, Cat6 for data/phone.

Maybe think about 2 contractors, one for the theatre and one for everything else?

Have you asked JG King to do everything except the theatre? Surprised they're not more flexible :shrug:

My Name is Will, I have a communications contracting business in Laurimar. I also do audio visual.

That sounds fantastic Will. I have sent you a PM.

Hi All

I'm building in Laurimar and have to say WOW.

So far I have had a truly wonderful experience, from the initial look around to the amazing customer service and information provided by the outstanding sales & service team (especially the wonderful Anastasia) I honestly could not be more impressed.

I'm really looking forward to building in June and moving into what really seems like a wonderful and kind community of good people.



Thanks and take care

Troubz

Hi Troubz,

Welcome to Laurimar!

I also went through Anastacia when purchasing my block. She was very helpful.

I used Will who lives in Laurimar for my smart wiring. Has done a great job so far. All up it is costing me about 2.4k but my wasn't a stock standard setup. I had 12 network points and 7 TV points and HT cabling done.

Which area of Laurimar did you purchase in?

Cheers,
Andy

Hi Andy,

Sounds like you've got an interesting home / home business I assume

I'm building in Harrisons view

Take Care

I'm also in Harrison's View.

No I don't have a home business.. just a geek who like the latest in technology.

Hi there wakeboardandy and troubz....

Well seems as though we are all going to be neighbours! We are in the process of buying in Harrison Views also. We are also building a JG King home as part of a home and land package with Annastasia!

We had a really helpful tradesman come and approach us on saturday (he was next door doing the smart wireing). We got a quote of him there and than!

Alex from Compaq Communications - for 6 TV points (i think), 2 phone points, 1 data point and he is charging us $2000..... NOt sure if this is good or not!

But JG King homes offerd to do 2 TV points and 1 data for $650....

Please...... do tell me..... have either of you actually enquiried about the monthly running costs of this velocity stuff.... I'm so clueless! But i had a small internet business and use it heaps, and so far have ony heard bad things! I would love some feedback!

THANKS HEAPS IN ADVANCE!

Love Kirby
xoxo

ps..... What street are you guys on! We are Bower Way....

Pricing is more expensive for internet on velocity.. but it is super fast.. phone and foxtel is all the same price.

I have probably walked through your house in bower way (hope you don't mind ) There is two JG King houses next door to each other.

Actually, Velocity is the slowest fibre-based Internet product. It's actually slower than some ADSL2+ connections (though, certainly not the majority). Telstra artificially lock the speed of Velocity connections to 20mb/s. As a comparison Opticomm/Internode provide speeds up to 100mb/s on their fibre network.

Also, Telstra charge for both downloaded and uploaded data, while most other ISPs only charge for downloaded data. This means that the quota you have on a Bigpond account is used much faster.

Yes it is artificially capped, but that is not likely to stay that way. Telstra also have that all you can dl on the last day.. ie. on a 12gb liberty you could download about 168gb on the last day at no extra charge.. most other isp's have stopped this last day leech fest!

but yes velocity is unfortently more expensive but we don't really have a choice... however the benefits far outway the negatives in my opinion.. (copper vs ftth)

Which are access to Foxtel via cable platform (you get all the FTA HD channels! )
No antenna or satellite required
Fast internet no matter how far from the exchange, which means lots of downloads on last day of you monthly plan!!

Please explain!

I too am building in a Velocity Estate and was concerned that the small allowances may interfere with my attempts to download the Internet
But now you have given me cause to smile again!

I'll take your word for it! I assume this is some "benefit" of Telstra's archaic billing systems?

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Certainly is! Although 1 day leech fest is hardly worth the other negatives of using Telstra

Indeed. I'll take 100mb/s and 60 Gbytes from Internode instead.

If only I had the option!

yeah but that is 144.95.. I'll take my 20mb/s and 180gb from Telstra for 109.95

Internode are a good ISP though.. although I have been with Telstra for a few years now and never had a problem, very reliable and fast network.

That's actually a fairly reasonable price, I'm impressed. Though, Telstra do count both uploads and downloads against your quota, so in that case, I'd hit 180gb relatively quickly. I'm actually probably going to go with the 50mb/s and 75gb option instead. It's already far and away faster than what I have now (4mb) and it's a far more reasonable price.