Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Jul 21, 2013 4:58 pm After renovating our older house and living in it for 5 years, we have undertaken to build a new house this year. A growing family has meant we need more space. We have found out so much through different forums on home one that we thought we would start our own as there are only a couple of people we can find building a Washington home with Wisdom homes. We have another blog but this will make it easier to ask questions and get feedback from other people who are also building. We have just started the kitchen, electrical and flooring appointments and we are sure to need heaps of advice. Building a Washington 29 with Wisdom Homes Our Blog: http://ourwashingtonhome.wordpress.com/ Our Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=66117&hilit=washington+29 Re: No more renos! Time to build a Washington 29 Wisdom Home 2Jul 22, 2013 7:54 pm We have our electrical appointment coming up... does anyone know if the wisdom builders range LED lights ($160 option) are any good? Also, does anyone have any advice on how to space/arrange downlights to maximise lighting in a room or open spaces? Building a Washington 29 with Wisdom Homes Our Blog: http://ourwashingtonhome.wordpress.com/ Our Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=66117&hilit=washington+29 Re: No more renos! Time to build a Washington 29 Wisdom Home 3Jul 22, 2013 8:50 pm Congratulations on starting your building journey. We had the LED down lights installed in our Wisdom home and we are very happy with them. We built the Wisdom Majestic 40 - moved in! Our blog - http://ourwisdommajestic40.blogspot.com.au/ Our H1 thread - viewtopic.php?t=54156 Re: No more renos! Time to build a Washington 29 Wisdom Home 4Jul 22, 2013 9:13 pm Thanks Onewheel! I had a look at your blog. I love the lighting in your kitchen! Hubby likes the option of under cabinetry lights, but I like spot lights or more downlights. Building a Washington 29 with Wisdom Homes Our Blog: http://ourwashingtonhome.wordpress.com/ Our Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=66117&hilit=washington+29 Re: No more renos! Time to build a Washington 29 Wisdom Home 5Jul 22, 2013 10:31 pm Jazz_J Thanks Onewheel! I had a look at your blog. I love the lighting in your kitchen! Hubby likes the option of under cabinetry lights, but I like spot lights or more downlights. Actually we put the under cabinet lights on when we are not using the kitchen but still up and about, really pleased we got them. We built the Wisdom Majestic 40 - moved in! Our blog - http://ourwisdommajestic40.blogspot.com.au/ Our H1 thread - viewtopic.php?t=54156 Re: No more renos! Time to build a Washington 29 Wisdom Home 6Jul 29, 2013 8:40 pm We have now finished all of our appointments - kitchen, air con, electrical, tile/carpet. So now we are sitting tight and waiting for approval from council. Building a Washington 29 with Wisdom Homes Our Blog: http://ourwashingtonhome.wordpress.com/ Our Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=66117&hilit=washington+29 Re: No more renos! Time to build a Washington 29 Wisdom Home 7Jul 29, 2013 8:50 pm Jazz_J We have now finished all of our appointments - kitchen, air con, electrical, tile/carpet. So now we are sitting tight and waiting for approval from council. That's great all of your appointments are done, it certainly is time consuming. Good luck with council, hopefully it won't take too long We built the Wisdom Majestic 40 - moved in! Our blog - http://ourwisdommajestic40.blogspot.com.au/ Our H1 thread - viewtopic.php?t=54156 Re: No more renos! Time to build a Washington 29 Wisdom Home 8Aug 21, 2013 10:17 am Any news from council yet? May be our construction will start at the same time. Find Out About Bungarribee Community At http://bungarribee.com Building Washington 29 from Wisdom Homes - viewtopic.php?f=31&t=63920&p=1011725#p1011725 Re: No more renos! Time to build a Washington 29 Wisdom Home 9Aug 22, 2013 5:01 am No we are just waiting for the engineer hydraulics information. Everyday seems like forever but it really isn't that big a deal. I hope Wisdom might give us an update this week to at least let us know how much we are likely to be up for following the engineers report. Hopefully it isn't anything major that we need to do. Went to Beacon lighting the other day and looked at some fan lights for upstairs. I kind of like the Opal Eco Air range as well but I can't find much information out about it in regards to costs other than what is on the manufacturers site http://www.sherriff.com.au/index.php?id=30 . I might look around some forums and see what I can find??? Not urgent as we have heaps of time, but it passes the waiting time. Building a Washington 29 with Wisdom Homes Our Blog: http://ourwashingtonhome.wordpress.com/ Our Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=66117&hilit=washington+29 Re: No more renos! Time to build a Washington 29 Wisdom Home 10Aug 22, 2013 7:42 am Hi, good luck with your builds I will be following your posts with great interest. We are just awaiting our tender but it looks like you have your appts after you sign the contract. With another builder we are considering you sign your contract after you've made your selections which makes me feel more comfortable as you know your total spend before you've committed. Is this correct and if so did you feel like you had enough accurate info or allowances prior to signing with WH? http://camdenbuild.blogspot.com.au/ by invite only please pm me Re: No more renos! Time to build a Washington 29 Wisdom Home 11Aug 22, 2013 2:26 pm Congrats Jazz_J on your new home!!! Hi Robbie55, We got our tender presented few weeks ago and returned it back with few changes last week and waiting for it to be amended. As per our discussion with the sales guy, the tender had all the allowances included (Electrical, Kitchen, Staircase etc.,). I am assuming there won't be any surprises during the build except for the Hydraulics. Even for that we have put it 20k as allowance and am not sure what the actual cost might be. Re: No more renos! Time to build a Washington 29 Wisdom Home 12Aug 22, 2013 3:17 pm robbie55 Hi, good luck with your builds I will be following your posts with great interest. We are just awaiting our tender but it looks like you have your appts after you sign the contract. With another builder we are considering you sign your contract after you've made your selections which makes me feel more comfortable as you know your total spend before you've committed. Is this correct and if so did you feel like you had enough accurate info or allowances prior to signing with WH? We were anxious about the quote initially but we were up front with Wisdom about what we wanted including bricks etc. before we got to contract stage. They were good at checking with departments to get allowances put into our tender. All these allowances were well over what we ended up spending except for our electrical where we were out by a bit. In the end it looks like after all our appointments we ended up with realistic allowances for all these things. It comes in handy if you itemise what you want a little bit so you can add it up in your head. For our electrical we did a spreadsheet where we inputted the costs from other people's blogs to get an idea of how much we needed. In the end it was because we upgraded to the more expensive downlights that we went over our budget The only area we are concerned about is this hydraulics assessment as we didn't put an allowance in for this as we didn't think it was necessary. It is hard for builders to give quotes on this until council asks for it and an engineers assessment is done. Building a Washington 29 with Wisdom Homes Our Blog: http://ourwashingtonhome.wordpress.com/ Our Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=66117&hilit=washington+29 Re: No more renos! Time to build a Washington 29 Wisdom Home 13Aug 22, 2013 3:53 pm Thanks AAAHome & Jazz_J I don't have the hydraulic issue (so I'm told) so won't have to worry about that and glad to hear that they are realistic on their allowances. We also have a pretty substantial list of what we want from all external colours to tiles, electrical, kitchen, carpet and bricks so if they are reaslistic with their allowances we should be close to the mark. I just hate the thought of not knowing if we will have to go over budget or compromise on what we want because we can't get the costing beforehand. WH def have some of the best inclusions and are more professional in our dealings with them thus far but I would have preferred if we could have had made all our selections concrete before signing. http://camdenbuild.blogspot.com.au/ by invite only please pm me Re: No more renos! Time to build a Washington 29 Wisdom Home 14Aug 26, 2013 8:00 pm Hi Robbie55. Yeh the inclusions with wisdom are great. We actually got 2tenders done with different builders and following the tenders we actually felt more confident with Wisdom. The Washington 29 also had a smaaler footprint than the other home so this was also to our liking considering we we have a slight slope on our block. As long as you are upfront with the sales team about your ideal then they are pretty good at costing accurately.. well so far anyway...I guess we will wait to hear what the engineer says. Hopefully we might get some guidance tomorrow. Building a Washington 29 with Wisdom Homes Our Blog: http://ourwashingtonhome.wordpress.com/ Our Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=66117&hilit=washington+29 Re: No more renos! Time to build a Washington 29 Wisdom Home 15Aug 29, 2013 7:57 am So we received the Hydraulics plan yesterday. No idea on the costs yet until Wisdom do their costings. It doesn't look that major so here is hoping. If anyone has any idea on what we are looking at cost wise that would be helpful. It looks like we need: a small additional pit for surface water (450x450) wider pipes to 100mm for stormwater a first flush water diverter (whatever that is- not sure if this is standard with water tanks) twin overflow pipes for the water tank Anyway we will give you an update when we know some costs hopefully later this week. Building a Washington 29 with Wisdom Homes Our Blog: http://ourwashingtonhome.wordpress.com/ Our Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=66117&hilit=washington+29 Re: No more renos! Time to build a Washington 29 Wisdom Home 16Aug 29, 2013 8:48 am Doesn't look to drastic but how much it cost counts at the end of the day. Plz keep us updated. Find Out About Bungarribee Community At http://bungarribee.com Building Washington 29 from Wisdom Homes - viewtopic.php?f=31&t=63920&p=1011725#p1011725 Re: No more renos! Time to build a Washington 29 Wisdom Home 17Aug 29, 2013 11:16 am Hi jazz_j It sounds like your variation is similar to ours,which cost us just over 4k a few months ago. Re: No more renos! Time to build a Washington 29 Wisdom Home 18Aug 29, 2013 2:45 pm Every bit does count Transformation your right! We will let you know how it goes. 4K is a bit more than we hoped Aheron but we will see what comes out. Building a Washington 29 with Wisdom Homes Our Blog: http://ourwashingtonhome.wordpress.com/ Our Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=66117&hilit=washington+29 Re: No more renos! Time to build a Washington 29 Wisdom Home 19Aug 29, 2013 9:47 pm Jazz_J So we received the Hydraulics plan yesterday. No idea on the costs yet until Wisdom do their costings. It doesn't look that major so here is hoping. Hydraulic calculations are straightforward when you know how but expect to have your teeth pulled. Jazz_J wider pipes to 100mm for stormwater a first flush water diverter (whatever that is- not sure if this is standard with water tanks) twin overflow pipes for the water tank A few words here. The regulations are poor in regards to stormwater pipes but the 'standard' 90 mm PVCu stormwater pipes have thin walls (generally 1.8 or 1.9 mm wall thickness) and are measured as an outside diameter (OD). The inside diameter is usually 86.2 mm, giving a volume of 5.84 litres per metre (lpm). 100 mm SN6 DWV (drain waste vent) pipes have walls 3 mm thick and an ID of 104.2 mm, giving an internal volume of 8.53 lpm. You are much better off having the 100 mm DWV pipes. The cost will be a little more but not that much to worry about and the labour component will not change. Re the first flush diverter...this is the worry as you speak in the singular. First flush diverters are a regulatory requirement in some regions and their purpose is to collect the initial roof wash as it contains the worst quality water. Their effectiveness however is proportional to their collection capacity, the roof area harvested and the intensity of the initial rainfall. To use an example, most use 90 mm PVCu stormwater pipe as the collection chamber and as you now know, it collects a volume of 5.84 lpm. If the downpipe the diverter is fitted to harvests 40 sq m of roof and the collection chamber is 1.5 m long, the chamber will only collect the initial 8.76 litres off the 40 sq m roof. This is rainfall of .22 mm (1 mm on 1 sq m = 1 litre). You won't get much first flush when the roof is flushed from that little rain and this is compounded by the fact that most debris (bird droppings etc) is only flushed from the gutters long after the first flush diverter is full. HOWEVER, my concern with you speaking in the singular is because a lot of plumbers and water tank installers install a singular first flush diverter to the top of a vertical riser that diverts water from remote downpipes to a (above ground) tank's top meshed inlet. This means that not only is a single first flush diverter supposedly collecting the first flush from numerous downpipes, the first flush diverter will only fill with the settled water in the riser while the first flush will still be in the downpipes! First flush diverters MUST be installed at the downpipes. Re twin overflows for the water tank, this suggests that you are having a normal storage system rather than a detention system. If so, you should also look at a syphonic TankVac system. Twin overflows also say that you will be harvesting multiple downpipes. This means a wet system and these are usually bad news. Also be aware that just about everyone on these forums who have tanks pay way too much and also end up with sub standard systems. I have seen all sorts of poor examples in the sub forums but if you do your homework and take some control, you should save a lot of money. 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: No more renos! Time to build a Washington 29 Wisdom Home 20Aug 30, 2013 7:21 am Hi SaveH2O. Thanks for the summary it really helps me understand and it is good to know exactly what benefits we are getting with larger pipes. I reviewed the engineer plans and there seems to be two First Flush water diverters (one on each inlet pipe to the top of the tank). I assume this still results in the same concerns you raised above however with the run off being too great for the capacity of the diverters. I am looking to install my own additional water storage system post build to avoid the additional costs incurred by using the builder. Do I need to get all the first flush diverters installed straight away and the Tank Vac or can I retrofit these post build (or is it too late as there will be 6months of water running off the roof prior to the change). I just want to put the minimum through the builder to avoid unnecessary costs and also the fact they won't let you bring in your own tradespeople during the build process. Thanks for the advice by the way! Building a Washington 29 with Wisdom Homes Our Blog: http://ourwashingtonhome.wordpress.com/ Our Thread: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=66117&hilit=washington+29 Can someone please offer some advice? Im DESPERATE. Because I'm completely and utterly exhausted. How long are variations taking with other companies at the moment? We… 0 18249 Hi, guys! 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