Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Porter Davis homes 14261Feb 23, 2017 4:05 pm I'm rather upset now, I just realized something very annoying and very big. It is annoying and big because it's structural and we are past our contract appointment. Our sales agent told us when we were talking about going with PD and getting the Montague that the sliding doors at the Ibiza display are standard but I just realized looking at our drawings that it's definitely not standard. It is a small house and the sliding door is a big focal point and we would have definitely wanted to upgrade it if we had known it wasn't standard. I emailed my bc to see what she says. Did anyone ever had something like this happen? did they still charge you on new drawings and 6 star evaluation? Re: Porter Davis homes 14262Feb 23, 2017 6:13 pm Naama I'm rather upset now, I just realized something very annoying and very big. It is annoying and big because it's structural and we are past our contract appointment. Our sales agent told us when we were talking about going with PD and getting the Montague that the sliding doors at the Ibiza display are standard but I just realized looking at our drawings that it's definitely not standard. It is a small house and the sliding door is a big focal point and we would have definitely wanted to upgrade it if we had known it wasn't standard. I emailed my bc to see what she says. Did anyone ever had something like this happen? did they still charge you on new drawings and 6 star evaluation? So what type of doors are you getting at the standard? Maybe it worthwhile paying for the admin variation fee and upgrading it to get the look that you want. Re: Porter Davis homes 14263Feb 23, 2017 6:17 pm Renman Naama I'm rather upset now, I just realized something very annoying and very big. It is annoying and big because it's structural and we are past our contract appointment. Our sales agent told us when we were talking about going with PD and getting the Montague that the sliding doors at the Ibiza display are standard but I just realized looking at our drawings that it's definitely not standard. It is a small house and the sliding door is a big focal point and we would have definitely wanted to upgrade it if we had known it wasn't standard. I emailed my bc to see what she says. Did anyone ever had something like this happen? did they still charge you on new drawings and 6 star evaluation? So what type of doors are you getting at the standard? Maybe it worthwhile paying for the admin variation fee and upgrading it to get the look that you want. Just smaller doors. I wanted doors that pretty much cover the whole wall but it looks like it covers a bit over half. It's not just variation fees, it's the 6 star energy rating fees to do again.. I emailed out BC and I'll see if she can meet us half way on this. Re: Porter Davis homes 14264Feb 23, 2017 7:52 pm Naama Renman Naama I'm rather upset now, I just realized something very annoying and very big. It is annoying and big because it's structural and we are past our contract appointment. Our sales agent told us when we were talking about going with PD and getting the Montague that the sliding doors at the Ibiza display are standard but I just realized looking at our drawings that it's definitely not standard. It is a small house and the sliding door is a big focal point and we would have definitely wanted to upgrade it if we had known it wasn't standard. I emailed my bc to see what she says. Did anyone ever had something like this happen? did they still charge you on new drawings and 6 star evaluation? So what type of doors are you getting at the standard? Maybe it worthwhile paying for the admin variation fee and upgrading it to get the look that you want. Just smaller doors. I wanted doors that pretty much cover the whole wall but it looks like it covers a bit over half. It's not just variation fees, it's the 6 star energy rating fees to do again.. I emailed out BC and I'll see if she can meet us half way on this. You may have to double glaze the slider doors to get your 6 start rating. Re: Porter Davis homes 14265Feb 23, 2017 8:01 pm How much do they charge for variations? I know you pay for whatever it is you change but what is the admin fee? Re: Porter Davis homes 14266Feb 23, 2017 8:09 pm nikil How much do they charge for variations? I know you pay for whatever it is you change but what is the admin fee? Basically after the tender you sign a document saying you won't be making any more structural changes and if you will then they'll charge you for drawing new plans and if they already submitted the 6 star energy then you'll need to pay to do the test again- it's done by an external company... I just want to know if it's reasonable to ask them to cover these things as this is a result of them misleading me? Re: Porter Davis homes 14267Feb 23, 2017 8:22 pm Naama nikil How much do they charge for variations? I know you pay for whatever it is you change but what is the admin fee? Basically after the tender you sign a document saying you won't be making any more structural changes and if you will then they'll charge you for drawing new plans and if they already submitted the 6 star energy then you'll need to pay to do the test again- it's done by an external company... I just want to know if it's reasonable to ask them to cover these things as this is a result of them misleading me? It's worth a try given that it was so misleading and you are only wanting what you thought you were going to get. If you have any email record that they said it was a standard would help your case. Re: Porter Davis homes 14268Feb 23, 2017 8:41 pm Stewie Hi guys, I just want to say how relieved we are to have somewhere where everyday people can share the experience of others when building/renevating. My partner and I have recently purchased a block of land which will allow us to build the house of our dreams at our preferred location, and having read some of the 'horror' stories has definitely made us more prepared to undertake when our time comes to deal with our builder. Anyways, like many others, we have visited a number of display homes from a variety of builders, and are close to selecting Porter Davis as our preferred choice of builder. We believe the quality of these homes are greater than AV Jennings, Metricon and so on. We really like one specific plan, and we have also heard a lot of positive feedback from people who have built using PD. Unfortunately, we are unsure of the quality of these homes. Is anyone currently dealing wth Porter Davis? If so we would love to hear your experience. Thanks I built with PD 11 years ago. The house is pretty quality I must admit. It's 47sq. But one very big mistake they made which caused us so much problems. Was they didnt seal the floor under the tiles upstairs. We asked them to do it and we would pay extra. But they wouldn't budge. It's now caused us big leaks in the ceiling. In two different areas. Specially if the toilets got blocked. Or if the bath overflowed. Which one of the kids did that once. They forgot to turn it off. It has now made the whole ceiling cave in. Because of this and the fact that they made a half cupboard under my sink. Would be the reason why I would never build with them again. Hubby wanted to as we are building again. cos he liked their new design. But they were not flexible with structure changes. Plus at the same time I still didn't want to go for them because of the problems we are having now. Re: Porter Davis homes 14269Feb 24, 2017 5:24 am You can't always change after tender. We Wanted more pot draws in the kitchen and even though build hadn't started they refused saying they'd ordered everything already Wouldn't budge. We tried a few times. Re: Porter Davis homes 14270Feb 24, 2017 9:36 am sunshine83 You can't always change after tender. We Wanted more pot draws in the kitchen and even though build hadn't started they refused saying they'd ordered everything already Wouldn't budge. We tried a few times. Even if they have ordered I would have assumed you could say that you'll just wear the cost of whatever they had ordered already as well as what you wanted to change it to, assuming there's no structural change? Building a Kew 28 with Porter Davis Re: Porter Davis homes 14271Feb 24, 2017 9:42 am We had our tender last week, they just sent through our kitchen drawings yesterday for us to check if they are correct and they weren't, the only 2 changes we made were not on there.. so they definitely haven't ordered them yet. Our contract in on Tuesday. They told me they don't order anything until after the contract day, other than the drawings. They don't actually order any materials until contract is signed. Re: Porter Davis homes 14272Feb 24, 2017 10:33 am Guys, we had our colour appointment last week and never got to chat with heating/cooling/insulation people.. Also our design specialist said she can't help with the door. has anyone upgraded their front door? we are getting a 2340 x 820 (which is too narrow for me ) and want to get a 2340 x 1020 timber veneer and stained door. Any idea how much that cost? Also, we wanted to upgrade our wardrobe doors to sliding but was told they can't give a price until tender any advice? Re: Porter Davis homes 14273Feb 24, 2017 10:35 am nikil We had our tender last week, they just sent through our kitchen drawings yesterday for us to check if they are correct and they weren't, the only 2 changes we made were not on there.. so they definitely haven't ordered them yet. Our contract in on Tuesday. They told me they don't order anything until after the contract day, other than the drawings. They don't actually order any materials until contract is signed. Hi Nikil, we had our colour appointment last week. Kitchen culture wanted us to upgrade everything in the house and charge has heaps. I said okay to everything, got back home and removed everything off in the cooling period. Note, I don't think they order anything until the actual build starts or the soil test is completed. Push for it, and get it done, the logic is simple, if you want to add stuff (if they make money) there won't be any change fees, if you are removing stuff (they lose money) there will be all sort of fees. So watch out and tell them its not your mistake and theirs. Re: Porter Davis homes 14274Feb 24, 2017 12:01 pm @hurrow we tried that. Nope. No flexibility at all. Disappointed as we weren't given great advice at WOS by kitchen cultures. The young girl knew nothing about kitchens and still lived at home. Probably has never even been in one! Re: Porter Davis homes 14275Feb 24, 2017 1:11 pm sunshine83 @hurrow we tried that. Nope. No flexibility at all. Disappointed as we weren't given great advice at WOS by kitchen cultures. The young girl knew nothing about kitchens and still lived at home. Probably has never even been in one! My worry is that I don't think I or my wife necessarily know a lot about kitchens either and we've been living out of home for about 20 and 15 years! What should we be keeping in mind? Building a Kew 28 with Porter Davis Re: Porter Davis homes 14276Feb 24, 2017 2:48 pm My husband and I are in our early 30s (ok he's late 30s) and only lived in apartments and well, didn't have kids until 2.5 years ago so had very little idea! Lots of pot draws. Apparently everyone knows this, as after we'd made the plans I was told my about 10 people we should have got just pot draws. We didn't. I was actually very impressed with WOS team we had that day from lighting to wardrobes to our amazing women who did the colour etc but unfortunately one of the most inportant parts of the house will be a bit of a let down. We plan on trying it for a year then getting pot draws put in Do others have good suggestions? What are you building, was it the Waldorf? We are doing plaza 49B Re: Porter Davis homes 14277Feb 24, 2017 4:24 pm sunshine83 My husband and I are in our early 30s (ok he's late 30s) and only lived in apartments and well, didn't have kids until 2.5 years ago so had very little idea! Lots of pot draws. Apparently everyone knows this, as after we'd made the plans I was told my about 10 people we should have got just pot draws. We didn't. I was actually very impressed with WOS team we had that day from lighting to wardrobes to our amazing women who did the colour etc but unfortunately one of the most inportant parts of the house will be a bit of a let down. We plan on trying it for a year then getting pot draws put in Do others have good suggestions? What are you building, was it the Waldorf? We are doing plaza 49B A good rule of thumb that we applied to our house design is, if it's under a bench top try to install a draw where you can. It's easier to turn a draw into a self afterwards with a divider or a stand than to the other way around. We like to stand in the display home kitchen and do a mock cook. That way you get a feel of where things should be placed and located. Bins next to the sinks, where your towel rails will be after you was your hands, where you sauce and spices will be. This applies to difference part of the house. Doing this we change a lot of thing at no cost to us, which side should the doors open, showers doors open so you can reach for the towels as you get step out. Location of the power point and like switches, data point for kids stays area. Hope that helps. Re: Porter Davis homes 14278Feb 24, 2017 5:06 pm walks lizbf85 Will keep you posted tomorrow after our PCI.. i actually feel sick in even going Hi Liz, I have been following your progress but not posted yet. I'm sorry the build process has been tough for you and that there has been more hurdles than there should have been. In my opinion you should embrace the experience, control the controllable's and know that there is a light at the end of the tunnel and once you are in it will all be worth it. Someone vandalized the bricks, that's not controllable and there is no point getting emotional about it, PD will fix it and it won't cost you a thing. Just a shift in thinking can have a positive effect. There have been a lot of negatives and negative venting from and this breeds and welcomes more negatives. The law of positive fruition, think positive and positive things just seem to happen. I don't mean any of this to be rude, it is supposed to be a pick me up to say at the end of the day it will be a positive outcome so ride the ups and downs and stay excited, you're almost there!! Think of getting the keys and moving your stuff in, decorating the house etc. and how good that is going to be. Thanks.. i certainly don't take that offensively....unfortunately when things go from bad to worse on a daily basis there just becomes a point when feeling positive is just not possible. And quite honestly after our PCI experience yesterday i want to move on and never think of this experience again. I even feel too embarrassed to share what has happened. It's almost incomprehensible. Re: Porter Davis homes 14279Feb 24, 2017 5:10 pm Naama nikil How much do they charge for variations? I know you pay for whatever it is you change but what is the admin fee? Basically after the tender you sign a document saying you won't be making any more structural changes and if you will then they'll charge you for drawing new plans and if they already submitted the 6 star energy then you'll need to pay to do the test again- it's done by an external company... I just want to know if it's reasonable to ask them to cover these things as this is a result of them misleading me? I would say good luck with making a structural change at this point. Unless you have sufficient evidence that they mislead you then you'be probably got buckleys. It might be the industrial slider that your after, from memory its about $2500 Re: Porter Davis homes 14280Feb 25, 2017 9:08 am lizbf85 Naama nikil How much do they charge for variations? I know you pay for whatever it is you change but what is the admin fee? Basically after the tender you sign a document saying you won't be making any more structural changes and if you will then they'll charge you for drawing new plans and if they already submitted the 6 star energy then you'll need to pay to do the test again- it's done by an external company... I just want to know if it's reasonable to ask them to cover these things as this is a result of them misleading me? I would say good luck with making a structural change at this point. Unless you have sufficient evidence that they mislead you then you'be probably got buckleys. It might be the industrial slider that your after, from memory its about $2500 The more I look at the drawings the more frustrated I get. It is a tiny tiny door, I can't believe we were told it's the same size as the display, it's more like a third. It ruins the main area of the house. I don't mind paying the 2,500 for the door if that's how much the door costs, I just don't think we should pay the fine and the new 6 star energy because it was Porter Davis's misleading us that made this happen. The bc emailed back to me saying she can't see in the sales that we wanted a bigger door... seriously??? did you even read my email??? that's the whole issue! the fact that we were told that the standard will be much bigger than it really is. why would anyone have in writing- 'yes, the standard is the same size that you saw on the display'. FRUSTRATING!!! 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