Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Feb 21, 2009 11:52 am Hi!
First time poster, long time reader of these forums and the advice is absolute gold! I am looking to build my very first home and trying to find a home wide enough to fit on my 19.7m wide x30m long block (or 592m2) . Everybody tells me I have an ideal block but it's been a nightmare trying to find something wide enough to build on it! The problem/frustration I am experiencing is most homes I have seen are 11m wide (including double garage) and very long and because most garages are built so they are inside of the house, it means 9 metres of remaining space on my block of land which means the driveway wouldn't be level straight with the garage but instead I would need to drive my car to the left each time I want to come into and reverse to the right out of my garage so zig-zagging in and out instead of straight in & out of the garage My ideal home would have the garage out on it's own and not inside of the house, separated and level with the driveway which is on the right of my block to not have the above-mentioned zig-zag driveway. I have seen some nice wide homes from the Big M (Denver) which is 27m wide (too wide!) but only 13m long!! & way too many squares & from 1nsp1red Homes (substitute the 1's with I) of up to 18metres wide (but is above 30 squares! more like 36-40!) and long 23-25 metres with a requirement of having 5 metres from the front which in effect means the house would be sitting on my back fence! The issue is as a first home owner I got a tight budget (around $150-$180K) and whilst I and my wife are working, my wife's income isn't very high, mine isn't either We have saved 20K and along with the 26K FHOG would mean I could on my own income pay off the mortgage and use my wife's income to pay for bills/groceries and be able to make more repayments to pay it off sooner. So that a mortgage of a total of $180K - $40K Deposit = $140K mortgage. We are looking for a 3-4 bedroom house (Main Bedroom with Ensuite) with a separate Living room & separate Family Room, bathroom, laundry, WC and a Kitchen which has the sink facing towards a window (not on an island bench). When you have a block of land as wide as mine, to find a house wide enough to fit my block but also meet a $150-$180K budget and also needs to include basically everything to make a house a home like exposed aggregate concrete driveway + path to door, perhaps natural concrete to 1m perimeter around the home, brick letterbox, floor coverings, window furnishing, then of course your fridge, washing machine, lounge suite, dining table, dishwasher (this isn't a high priority), rugs, plasma TV and a stand for it, etc, etc, etc you start to feel my depression. Because, as we all know you need another 20-40% budgeted to allow for these things are many other things you have to pay on top of building the house. I am quite confused whether I will EVER find a home wide enough to fit nicely on the block and be between 20-25 squares and be a length of up to 20-22 metres I want at least a 3-4 metre backyard. Can anybody give me a company name(s) (maybe that aren't advertised as much) or small builders that can build a wide home on a block like mine and still be within my budget? Or even provide me some links that I could have a look at? You are welcome to PM me if worried about using builders names on the forum. Am I dreaming here or asking too much? If so give me a taste of reality. I am welcome to all comments. I thank everybody for their help in advance! Kind regards, Edin Re: Which house to build on a 20m wide block? 2Feb 21, 2009 12:14 pm Hi Edin,
You are right, this is a great site! Where are you? We had the same problem when we were looking at houses to fit our 22m frontage block in Qld. Found a few house plans we liked but they just looked ridiculous on such a big block! We ended up choosing an independant builder - but are paying a bit more for it. Good luck, Mandy Re: Which house to build on a 20m wide block? 3Feb 21, 2009 12:36 pm MandyandPete Hi Edin, You are right, this is a great site! Yes it sure is MandyandPete Where are you? I am in the Western Suburbs of Melbourne, VIC. MandyandPete We had the same problem when we were looking at houses to fit our 22m frontage block in Qld. Found a few house plans we liked but they just looked ridiculous on such a big block! Yes I know the frustration, it's terrible seeing how disproportionate it would look on a nice wide block, not to mention an eye sore as well. MandyandPete We ended up choosing an independant builder - but are paying a bit more for it. Are they well known and do they have a website at all? I'm keen to check out anybody that could offer me a solution. MandyandPete Good luck, Mandy Thank you Mandy, I will definitely need it! Re: Which house to build on a 20m wide block? 4Feb 21, 2009 12:48 pm We are building through Scoble Developments - www.scobledevelopments.com.au
We also had a look through an Orbit home, they are quite reasonable, price wise. They have a good plan on their website for wide blocks -http://www.orbithomes.com.au/homes/vic_hamlet2.html I'm not sure how much looking around you've done yet, but we found that we had to add at least $30000 onto the base price of every house to include things like driveway etc. $50000 if you want flyscreens, lightfittings and all of those 'optional extras' too! Mandy Re: Which house to build on a 20m wide block? 5Feb 21, 2009 2:02 pm Quote: We are looking for a 3-4 bedroom house (Main Bedroom with Ensuite) with a separate Living room & separate Family Room, bathroom, laundry, WC and a Kitchen which has the sink facing towards a window (not on an island bench). http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj187/nurselovescoffee/IMG_0001.jpg BINGO!! this is a floor plan of our house which I do beleive meets all your criteria 3B, ensuite,separate liveing room, kitchen with sink under window, and is 16 m wide, 19.27 length and garage attached to the house umr but no house behind the garage (our outdoor area will go in that space) we have our garage wall right on the boundary but if you were to centre the house you would have just under 2m either side which would be very reasonable - you could even widen the garage a bit if you wanted to. total size including double garage is just over 23 squares, right in the middle of your size range of 20 - 25 squares. This is a design from McCracken Country Homes SA called the Avondale, ours has some slight modifications to the original, I found them very flexible with any modifications we wanted to do. They mainly build in country SA but I beleive are expanding into Victoria, might be worth looking into or at least gives you an idea of a floor plan which might suit you. All the best, Helen. Re: Which house to build on a 20m wide block? 6Feb 21, 2009 2:35 pm One of the things we looked for when we were looking at designs for our land with wide frontage were 'articulated roof styles'. Lots of hips and gables facing the street - nothing worse in our opinion than seeing a long plain roof along the front of the house. Re: Which house to build on a 20m wide block? 7Feb 21, 2009 3:03 pm Edin Hi! First time poster, long time reader of these forums and the advice is absolute gold! I am looking to build my very first home and trying to find a home wide enough to fit on my 19.7m wide x30m long block (or 592m2) that is bigger then the block I'm hoping to buy/ afford ..where we are currently renting.... is 15 x 24 corner block too... Kodiak Data Cabling onFaceBook Consult*, Design and Installation Data, TV, Home Theatre/ AV Cabling, Multi Room Audio, IP CCTV and Door Intercoms Ask for a Quote. *DIY DATA Cabling Is Ilegal Re: Which house to build on a 20m wide block? 8Feb 21, 2009 3:27 pm Hi Edin, I have posted a link to a website that may be of some help.
There is a company over here in the west that has bought one of your builders in Vic..... We generally have alot of large blocks over here and with that in mind the plans are drawn bigger and at reasonable prices. You may be able to use one of the different companies plans through another company if you find one that suits.....it might open up a few more options for you being that they are all under the one banner.........Just an idea http://www.abngroup.com.au/Residential-Building/ Re: Which house to build on a 20m wide block? 9Feb 21, 2009 5:12 pm Check out some of the simonds homes 'A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world.' Louis Pasteur Vegie garden: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=27637&start=0 My Backyard Adventure Re: Which house to build on a 20m wide block? 10Feb 21, 2009 5:35 pm Hi,
We have a 25mtr wide X30 m deep block. So i feeel your pain. we found it hard to find something that wasnt too long. It seems a lot of builders design for narrow or traditional blocks. We picked a Clarendon home and made some slight modifications about $5000 more but it made our house 18 mtr wide by 21 deep, wth alfresco at the back and to the side to take advantage of the width. Re: Which house to build on a 20m wide block? 11Feb 21, 2009 7:39 pm @Mandy: Thanks for suggesting 0rb1t Homes, I have a had a chance to look at all their homes and I hope to visit their display homes to discuss my wide block and see what options are available.
I have been looking around for a while now, actually for a few years now, I just couldn't seriously consider building a home until now as I've been saving a deposit for a while now. All those 'optional extras' are not really optional and they sure don't come cheap! hahah @Helen: Thanks for providing me a good example of a possible solution too! I will be emailing McCracken Country Homes to see if they will build outside of SA. The Avondale looks like a decent home. @ICK: Thanks for bringing 'articulated roof styles' to my attention I shall certainly consider having more hips and gables. @Pugs: With your land size you shouldn't have a problem building a nice narrow house. Builders are currently targeting those who have a narrow block so that the frontage of the house is short but that the length of the house is used efficiently. Sometimes I wish I had a narrower block, it would make my choice of house so much simpler! Alas I am on the search for a custom home as my block is not the norm. @gweluphome: That site is actually very good, there are decent homes associated with the various builders noted. Many of the houses are nice and wide which would fit my block quite nicely and after taking the FHOG into account a bigger 30 square home may be affordable, however whether I can build with those builders or take the same house, specs & price to the Victorian builder associated is another thing! I am going to email the Victorian builder to see if they will consider building some of those WA homes. @lisanne: Thanks for offering me another option for building a home. I will certainly have a look to see if S1mm0nds can tailor a house for me but not at the same time blow my budget out of this planet! @mellybuilding: I am going to visit Clarendon tomorrow to see whether they can offer me a nice wide house at a decent price. Whilst browsing the Internet today I've found a home which looks to have what I'm after however searching homeone for 3ast W3st (substitute the 3 with E) but it appears in a topic in October 08 talk was they were out of business? I don't know if this is true or has been confirmed but I plan on visiting their displays tomorrow. Thank you to everybody who has made a contribution to bring my mind at ease. There will certainly be many emails, phone calls and visits to many builders in the coming months that's for sure. If anybody else can think of anything, please don't hesitate to post all your help is great! Regards, Edin. Re: Which house to build on a 20m wide block? 13Feb 21, 2009 9:58 pm hi there, check out coral homes, i am building a brampton 186 which is 14m wide & 19m long, kitchen sink currently on island bench, but coral are happy to let you make heaps of changes and only charge you for the cost of the change - so good 2014 - Prepping to build the Soho 4 with Plantation homes, industrial style 2009 - Built the Brampton with Coral Homes viewtopic.php?f=31&t=15399&start=280 Re: Which house to build on a 20m wide block? 14Feb 21, 2009 11:02 pm Building with Coral 2009 hi there, check out coral homes, i am building a brampton 186 which is 14m wide & 19m long, kitchen sink currently on island bench, but coral are happy to let you make heaps of changes and only charge you for the cost of the change - so good G'day, Thanks for the link, of all the designs I've seen, the Stradbroke seemed the closest fit for what I'm looking for. I don't think they build in Vic? I noticed only QLD & NSW in their lists of states. Re: Which house to build on a 20m wide block? 15Feb 22, 2009 2:07 pm Hi Edin
i can relate to the issues with a large wide block - we had the same problems Another design with more width is - Not sure about the price and budge though is a pattern from the builder whom we are building http://www.roseleighhomes.com.au/Riverside.html Good luck Re: Which house to build on a 20m wide block? 16Mar 01, 2009 9:44 pm We have a 20 wide x 33.5 deep block.
House selected (boutique homes boulevard @192k) will have ~2M boundary on one side and ~5M on the 'entertaining' side which enjoyed along the entire living areas. Although their will be a gap of ~3-4M at the garage to the fence line, I think that works out nicely. Either have an extra garage put on later, carport, or just screen it with some wood - nice entrance way for having outdoor parties as guests can enter directly into the garden area as opposed to walking through the house. enjoy the extra space. Re: Which house to build on a 20m wide block? 17Mar 01, 2009 10:15 pm Just be careful with your budgeting because I don't know about others but we can't use our FHOG as an actual deposit because you don't get it till your slab is poured which is after you have got your loan!
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