Browse Forums Building Standards; Getting It Right! Re: How does our builder fix this issue? 2Jun 11, 2016 3:26 pm The Harder You Try - the Luckier You Get ! Web site http://www.anewhouse.com.au Informative, Amusing, and Opinionated Blog - Over 600 posts on all aspects of building a new house. Re: How does our builder fix this issue? 5Jun 12, 2016 12:53 pm Foremost Building Expert in Australia,assisting with building problems/disputes, building stage inspections,pre-contract review advice for peace of mind 200 blogs http://www.buildingexpert.net.au/blog Re: How does our builder fix this issue? 6Jun 12, 2016 1:30 pm 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: How does our builder fix this issue? 7Jun 13, 2016 6:26 am Foremost Building Expert in Australia,assisting with building problems/disputes, building stage inspections,pre-contract review advice for peace of mind 200 blogs http://www.buildingexpert.net.au/blog Re: How does our builder fix this issue? 10Jun 13, 2016 12:26 pm Foremost Building Expert in Australia,assisting with building problems/disputes, building stage inspections,pre-contract review advice for peace of mind 200 blogs http://www.buildingexpert.net.au/blog Re: How does our builder fix this issue? 11Jun 13, 2016 4:03 pm 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: How does our builder fix this issue? 13Jun 14, 2016 10:02 am Foremost Building Expert in Australia,assisting with building problems/disputes, building stage inspections,pre-contract review advice for peace of mind 200 blogs http://www.buildingexpert.net.au/blog Re: How does our builder fix this issue? 14Jun 14, 2016 10:20 am Foremost Building Expert in Australia,assisting with building problems/disputes, building stage inspections,pre-contract review advice for peace of mind 200 blogs http://www.buildingexpert.net.au/blog Re: How does our builder fix this issue? 16Jun 14, 2016 2:46 pm 68BUS That is exactly the sort of thing I was trying to avoid. Politics. Not building and construction politics. But forum politics. My post clearly stated in the simplest terms possible what the regulatory requirements are when there is an issue of non compliance whereas your post referred solely to a product to consider using if adopting a possible/probable non compliant and non contractual ‘fix’. You appear to clutch at “politics” as a drowning defence as is evident by your initial nondescript sentence in your opening post. Who and what text were you referring to in that instance? There are too many times new home owners are railroaded into accepting a sub standard non compliant solution only made possible by others turning a blind eye or being influenced by others who should know better than to give the advice they do. In the case of this thread’s subject matter, the work is months old, already rusting and may have already been erroneously passed as compliant by the building surveyor, something that would be of major concern to the surveyor if he/she is now the wiser. Regardless of whether it has been passed or not, the building surveyor should be informed. In case you missed it, I have pasted part of this thread’s opening post below... gcambo We are building a two story home with a 4 meter balcony at the front. We have just notice that the large steel girder that spans across the front of the first floor connecting the balcony is suppose to be hot dip gal but it's not treated, it's steel. We are opposite Botany bay and already there are signs of rust after just a few months. In fact the poles supporting to the girder are also untreated metal. 68BUS The contractual items had been covered. Why go over them again... Because you ignored them! There are many others beside the OP who read these posts and they also have the right to clarification. 68BUS I did not say that an acceptable outcome was to treat the steel over replacing it. If you read my post I said that if they were looking to treat the steel then a good product is...... And in doing so, you effectively endorsed the method as an acceptable solution. 68BUS And who knows, the way things go between larger builders and smaller clients it may be the option that they settle on. This is possible because as I mentioned earlier in this post and what is worth repeating...”There are too many times new home owners are railroaded into accepting a sub standard non compliant solution only made possible by others turning a blind eye or being influenced by others who should know better than to give the advice they do.” This does NOT make it right. 68BUS So perhaps, you can call for a ladder an get down from your high horse. I prioritise the OP’s and the public’s right to appropriate information over the sensibilities of those who choose to ignore compliance when posting. If posting about the regulatory requirements is my being on a high horse, so be it. If you choose not to be, then that is your choice, you have plenty of mates in the building industry unfortunately. 68BUS Considering you yourself have pointed to the fact that a solution may ultimately be settled on that is not replacing the steel you may need to re think how you phrase your posts. In case you missed you own advice referring to this I will paste it again for you. I would not accept a bandaid 'solution', someone ordered the wrong material and it wasn't the SS but the 'fix' may be determined by the builder managing to get an Alternative Solution certified to circumvent the non compliance and breach of contract. You need to work on your comprehension. The above was advising about what a builder “may” do as per the regulatory framework. Regardless, the building surveyor must still pass any ‘solution’ used as being compliant and this could prove difficult in the circumstances. It could also prove difficult to have an acknowledged expert certify (if required) an Alternative Solution (now called a Performance Based Solution) for this situation but time will tell on both counts. This is out of the OP's control. 68BUS All the best with your fix. Read what I posted again, I stated a regulatory procedure, not a ‘fix’. 68BUS I will be sure to keep any further advice to myself. I am aware it is not helpful for industry professionals who have dealt with similar situations to provide any sort of help when there is already information given that may cost all involved a lot of heart ache and money. They are right. Stop works and take them to mediation. Oh, and extend you current rental lease by 6 months. You will need it. At ‘the end of the day’, a decision made will/should be based on the regulatory framework, the builder’s integrity and social conscience and (to a degree) the OP's acceptance. In the interim, the OP has the right to be fully informed and I make no apologies for pursuing that goal. It serves no useful purpose for you to be petulant. 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: How does our builder fix this issue? 17Jun 18, 2016 2:54 pm Our new SS had an engineer out to look at the situation with the beam. They are trying to determine if the beam is external or internal. A technicality basically in my view but they are waiting on his verdict and are indicating they want to cold Gal. Unfortunately I'm not so sure that is going to cut mustard when it states all the nails that went into the frame had to be gal. Obviously they would prefer to cold Gal but our cert has already indicated he is going to make a decision based on the requirements of what it should of been unless convinced otherwise. More time wasting, any wonder people get frustrated when they build. Re: How does our builder fix this issue? 18Jun 24, 2016 1:13 pm Here are a few photos of the beam from underneath and one on the first floor to the balcony.[br] Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ [/br] They have wielded Gal plates to the RSJ beam so as to lower the floor level. [br] Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ [/br] The Posts holding up the RSJ. [br] Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ [/br] Looking down onto the RSJ first floor to the balcony. [br] Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ [/br] The balcony. [br] Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ [/br] Re: How does our builder fix this issue? 19Jun 27, 2016 12:11 pm Google Electrolysis; Oxidation. You can improvise something that will prevent oxidation (using electrolysis) connect it to your steel for a lifetime protection. I haven't tried this yet but I think once you know the principle you can create your own system. Re: How does our builder fix this issue? 20Jun 27, 2016 7:56 pm marblaze Google Electrolysis; Oxidation. You can improvise something that will prevent oxidation (using electrolysis) connect it to your steel for a lifetime protection. I haven't tried this yet but I think once you know the principle you can create your own system. That's like having sacrifical zinc anode on a boat. The trouble is you have to have to service/ change them. Who is ging to be bothered with that? Why improvise when you have paid for your steel to have been hot dop galvanised? Foremost Building Expert in Australia,assisting with building problems/disputes, building stage inspections,pre-contract review advice for peace of mind 200 blogs http://www.buildingexpert.net.au/blog the conduit would need to be undamaged regardless of what network is in play. The conduit needs to be able to have fibre run through it. NBN and Opticomm are just… 4 2881 Hey guys, what’s everyone opinion on James Hardie linea direct fix to frame? Would this be the most common method and anybody ever had any problems down the track? 0 5142 DIY, Home Maintenance & Repair If the railhead is so poorly fixed it is also likely that the railhead is also non compliant, what about overflows and sealing railhead to the gutters?. 3 5968 |