Another solution is to put a capacitor across the load. Clipsal part 31CAP will do the trick.
Paul
Browse Forums What's New Re: LED Downlights: to LED or not to LED, that is the questi 121Nov 10, 2011 4:19 pm think_wise The CBus issue seems to be the residual current/voltage (we measured 50v on one system) that you mentioned, our old 12w model did the same thing (would glow once light is turned off) but once we increased our chip to 13w it has sorted out the issue. Another solution is to put a capacitor across the load. Clipsal part 31CAP will do the trick. Paul Re: LED Downlights: to LED or not to LED, that is the questi 122Nov 12, 2011 10:35 am solanum However, with this dimmer, the first 75% of turn does nothing and the dimming is all in the last 25% of travel. You can limit the amount of travel when installing the knob, but as the lights are using the last 25% only, that doesn't help much. Talked with my electrician about the travel on the dial and he says it is the low load of the LEDs, the more load the more of the travel on the potentiometer that will have an effect. Re: LED Downlights: to LED or not to LED, that is the questi 123Nov 12, 2011 4:04 pm I Was at masters building supplies today, and they had 60w led equivalent bulbs with 800 lumen output and a regular bayonet base for $58. They only actually use 12w, and are much brighter than anything else I have seen. I picked one up for testing, will try it out tonight my house blog: http://sugarloafdrivebuild.blogspot.com/ Re: LED Downlights: to LED or not to LED, that is the questi 124Nov 12, 2011 7:17 pm dsiroky I Was at masters building supplies today, and they had 60w led equivalent bulbs with 800 lumen output and a regular bayonet base for $58. They only actually use 12w, and are much brighter than anything else I have seen. I picked one up for testing, will try it out tonight Dsiroky, I have used these in pantry, WIR, Powder room, etc. I am really impressed with the light output. The only downside is that they are bulkier than a normal incandescant globe. If anyone would like to see pictures of the globes that I can get, PM me you email and I will send some pics. Candle globes are also available 3W globes. Regards, Shane Re: LED Downlights: to LED or not to LED, that is the questi 125Nov 12, 2011 9:59 pm Ran them today over dinner on the dining room and they are great....good color, perfect replacement for a 60w bulb. I read an article in the paper that in the us these sell for $ 35.... my house blog: http://sugarloafdrivebuild.blogspot.com/ Re: LED Downlights: to LED or not to LED, that is the questi 126Nov 14, 2011 11:25 am Got a picture of it? Re: LED Downlights: to LED or not to LED, that is the questi 127Nov 14, 2011 12:05 pm think_wise .......... Do you basically just have the one product "Genesis 16W Downlight" for "regular" domestic installations ? I saw recently that there is now a "Label" that is available for LED products sold in Australia, do your product(s) have this label ? Thanks, P_D . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: LED Downlights: to LED or not to LED, that is the questi 128Nov 16, 2011 2:54 pm Yes for Domestic products we are fairly light on, we should be releasing a retrofit bulb (MR16/Gu10) fairly shortly though, but finding something for the right price has been a tough ask this year. When you say "label" what do you mean? Currently there are a few "Councils" that are trying to set the standard for emerging lighting. We are part of the lighting council and have their endorsement sticker which shows lm/w etc. Re: LED Downlights: to LED or not to LED, that is the questi 129Nov 16, 2011 3:53 pm think_wise ......When you say "label" what do you mean? ..... Sorry, I was talking about "The Lighting Council Of Australia" They have a Solid State Lighting (SSL) Quality Scheme, the labels are an attempt (as far as I can see) to allow consumers to have a bit better chance of trying to compare "apples with apples" when evaluating products for their home......... Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ http://www.lightingcouncil.com.au/ssl/label.php Cheers, P_D. . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: LED Downlights: to LED or not to LED, that is the questi 130Nov 16, 2011 6:18 pm I like the concept of the label. Do you know if the Luminous Flux is that quoted by the supplier or that measure by the Lighting Council? Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: LED Downlights: to LED or not to LED, that is the questi 131Nov 16, 2011 9:06 pm Casa2 I like the concept of the label. Do you know if the Luminous Flux is that quoted by the supplier or that measure by the Lighting Council? http://www.lightingcouncil.com.au/ssl/application.php ................ Quote: Blah blah blah ............. The SSL Quality Scheme is a voluntary industry scheme that provides confidence to the market that a luminaire carrying the Scheme’s label matches certain performance claims made by the supplier. A minimum set of critical parameters, described below, are reported by participating SSL luminaire suppliers to accurately reflect the performance of their products. Scheme participants provide test reports or other evidence to Lighting Council Australia verifying their claims. Lighting Council Australia registers the product in a database and authorises use of a label owned by Lighting Council indicating conformance to the parameters. Blah blah blah ............. Appendix 2 - Evidence to Satisfy Requirements that a Product or Family of Products Complies The Applicant must provide: A: US Department of Energy certification document and product datasheet OR B: UK Energy Savings Trust certification document and product datasheet OR C: LM79 photometric report from a NATA accredited laboratory with the following supporting documents: LED supplier data sheet and binning document (outlining bin range used) Driver supplier data sheet with certificate of compliance Important note: Only applications for luminaires that constitute a system will be accepted – that is, a fully integrated mains connected (230 V AC) luminaire OR luminaire plus power supply. HTH . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: LED Downlights: to LED or not to LED, that is the questi 132Nov 16, 2011 9:14 pm So............ I think this is a pretty good idea, as long as the "reputable" suppliers get on board. If this takes off you'll easily be able to compare apples with apples, I cannot see that the fly-by-night companies / suppliers will bother doing this, not because of the cost, which really isn't all that much for the label itself, but more the cost of the independent testing, and the fact that independent testing would show the actual quality of the inferior products. I would of been happier though if there was also some reference to beam angles in the "standard" too, but still, as it is, it's a lot better then nothing !! IMHO, Now I know about this label, I'll be looking for it, and as we're going to need around 50 LEDs, selection is something I need to get right, first time !!! P_D . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: LED Downlights: to LED or not to LED, that is the questi 133Nov 17, 2011 7:56 am Thanks Pepsi_Drinker. Sounds good to me. Couldn;t find many LED lights that are registered yet, but hopefully that will improve. Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: LED Downlights: to LED or not to LED, that is the questi 134Nov 17, 2011 8:28 am Casa2 Thanks Pepsi_Drinker. Sounds good to me. Couldn;t find many LED lights that are registered yet, but hopefully that will improve. Don't know if you found it, but here is the page you're looking for, and yes, you're right, very few products listed .... http://www.lightingcouncil.com.au/ssl/label_Results.php Cheers, P_D . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: LED Downlights: to LED or not to LED, that is the questi 135Nov 17, 2011 10:20 am The only issue I foresee is that there are quite a few councils trying to do the same thing, so the apples for apples might be a little way off. As long as they all require the same testing (most just require some form of NATA LM79) then it should be ok. Re: LED Downlights: to LED or not to LED, that is the questi 137Nov 19, 2011 7:34 pm High_speed_dub .....FWIW, that's the labelling scheme I was talking about a few pages back... Excellent, Thanks for that !! I knew I had seen "someone" post something "somewhere", but when I went to talk about it a few posts ago, I couldn't remember where it was that I had seen it, there's a few LED threads here and on Whirlpool that I watch, and all I could remember was that I saw there was a scheme, but where I saw it...Well I had one of my "seniors moments" and couldn't recall for the life of me !!! P_D . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: LED Downlights: to LED or not to LED, that is the questi 138Nov 20, 2011 10:58 am We are building a new home in Perth with Rosmond Homes. They include instalation in their fee but not light purchase. I have told them I want to use LED lights throught so I need to find and supply the units. We are having a ceiling height at 32 courses with large rooms and open spaces. Can anyone offer me a suggestion of what downlights to purchase and from who? Re: LED Downlights: to LED or not to LED, that is the questi 139Nov 20, 2011 2:08 pm bradster181 ....in Perth .....ceiling height at 32 courses Just to digress (slightly), you Perth people seem to quote ceiling height in bricks, whereas the rest of Australia quote actual height (2,700mm // 3,000mm etc) . Makes it really hard to give advice.....is "32 courses" a low ceiling, an "average" height or really high ceilings ? P_D . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: LED Downlights: to LED or not to LED, that is the questi 140Nov 20, 2011 6:21 pm Pepsi_Drinker bradster181 ....in Perth .....ceiling height at 32 courses Just to digress (slightly), you Perth people seem to quote ceiling height in bricks, whereas the rest of Australia quote actual height (2,700mm // 3,000mm etc) . Makes it really hard to give advice.....is "32 courses" a low ceiling, an "average" height or really high ceilings ? P_D Been down to Rockingham Beach with the kids for a BBQ and swim, hence the slow reply. Sorry about the brick thing, the plans show 2743mm is the height I work with owner, he/she is my man on the ground and I instruct them when to visit the site and take photos and I have other tools in the bag. 4 15852 1000000% definitely add insulation. I have in my home and it makes a big difference minimising sound transfer. Insulation is pretty cheap and definitely worth it 2 6564 |