Browse Forums Kitchen Corner 1 Jun 11, 2016 4:04 pm Does the flooring (timber floors) go into the fridge space if we are having a freestanding fridge? I'm just working on a kitchen plan and I want the fridge and wall stack of ovens to line up, or at least a line of wall units to line up. Thanks Re: Flooring under fridge 2Jun 11, 2016 4:39 pm Yes the flooring should continue into a fridge and dishwasher space. I assume your talking about floating floor? If its solid timber flooring then it should be under the entire kitchen! Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Flooring under fridge 3Jun 11, 2016 5:24 pm For the fridge to work efficiently it needs air to be able to move around, under and over it. The Harder You Try - the Luckier You Get ! Web site http://www.anewhouse.com.au Informative, Amusing, and Opinionated Blog - Over 600 posts on all aspects of building a new house. Re: Flooring under fridge 4Jun 11, 2016 6:51 pm CuttingEdgeKitchens Yes the flooring should continue into a fridge and dishwasher space. I assume your talking about floating floor? If its solid timber flooring then it should be under the entire kitchen! It's either going to be solid timber or engineered. This is where I'm getting conflicting opinions - flooring guys told me no need to put it under entire kitchen as a) costs more, and b) if I need to replace part of the floor (?!?) I'd have to rip out kitchen. I've been told this by more than one flooring company. The kitchen company I've been liaising with (not a cabinet maker) said flooring in first and I presume they mean under whole kitchen. ETA: I'm adding a comment to this as in my research on flooring companies I've just read particularly bad reviews about the company who told me flooring goes in second, so I will ignore his advice. Re: Flooring under fridge 5Jun 11, 2016 8:53 pm Kitchens shouldn't not be put down on floating floors, only because the floor is "Floating" and by putting the weight of a kitchen on it means it can no longer float. I have seen floor buckle and warp upwards. Solid timber doesn't have this problem and should always be laid wall to wall before the kitchen goes in. With both types of floors they should always go into fridge and dishwasher areas. Anyone that tells you otherwise is a shonk and you don't want them working on your house! Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Flooring under fridge 6Jun 11, 2016 9:48 pm Would you say lay wall to wall flooring first if it's engineered wood? Think I know the answer now...didn't realise engineered timber was 'floating'. Hope I've got that right.. Re: Flooring under fridge 7Jun 12, 2016 9:20 am Does your engineered floor need an underlay? Most use a type of foam under them so they are still floating rather than being glued or nailed to the old floor below. If it has a foam underlay then the floor will float and expand and contract and if you put a heavy kitchen on top of it you can have issues where the floor will buckle upwards. Normally laminate and engineered floors are laid after the kitchen has been installed. Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Flooring under fridge 8Jun 12, 2016 11:32 am CuttingEdgeKitchens Does your engineered floor need an underlay? Most use a type of foam under them so they are still floating rather than being glued or nailed to the old floor below. If it has a foam underlay then the floor will float and expand and contract and if you put a heavy kitchen on top of it you can have issues where the floor will buckle upwards. Normally laminate and engineered floors are laid after the kitchen has been installed. An engineered floor is sounding easier at the moment as I could have the kitchen and all bathroom cabinetry fully installed and then get the flooring and tiling done (tiles and timber floors). But, if I go for solid timber and have the floor installed first, then the process would be: 1. Timber floors laid, 2. All cabinetry installed in bathrooms and kitchen, 3. Tiling. I guess that would be okay if the floors were protected. In new build jobs you work on are the solid timber floors usually laid and finished before you install the kitchen? I'm organising floors and possibly kitchen separate to the building contract. Re: Flooring under fridge 9Jun 12, 2016 11:52 am No way should you get an engineered floor under the kitchen with a regular builder. That's if they even allow it. There's no way they would care about scratching it, painting over it, nor could you protect your floors. If you want to put timber before the kitchen, get solid boards that you sand and polish afterwards the kitchen, skirting boards, painting etc Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Re: Flooring under fridge 10Jun 12, 2016 12:46 pm JB1 No way should you get an engineered floor under the kitchen with a regular builder. That's if they even allow it. There's no way they would care about scratching it, painting over it, nor could you protect your floors. If you want to put timber before the kitchen, get solid boards that you sand and polish afterwards the kitchen, skirting boards, painting etc Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Nice boards - are they spotted gum? Also, I see the skirting is all done. If you put skirting on before sanding do you still get a nice finish to the edges of the floor when sanding/polishing without damaging the skirting? Re: Flooring under fridge 12Jun 12, 2016 3:36 pm JB1 There's no way they would care about scratching it, painting over it, nor could you protect your floors. If you want to put timber before the kitchen, get solid boards that you sand and polish afterwards the kitchen, skirting boards, painting etc [ I fit kitchens on finished solid timber floors all the time. We just put blankets down and don't have any issues. Sometimes there isn't any choice. In saying that I much prefer to fit to a floor that hasn't been polished. One issue is that it should have a quick sand before the kitchen goes in. No floor is flat before its sanded, there is always highs and low and the boards are all slightly different in thickness. This becomes a problem if you have bench top waterfalls that go to the floor and run across the joins. If its not sanded first you can end up seeing the highs and lows. 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This becomes a problem if you have bench top waterfalls that go to the floor and run across the joins. If its not sanded first you can end up seeing the highs and lows. I forgot to mention that I did do a rough sand for the above reasons. While I'm sure you'll be careful, would you trust a project builder's tradies not to damage a pre finished flooring? Re: Flooring under fridge 15Jun 12, 2016 7:08 pm Thanks JB1 and CEK....think I have the gist of it now! Re: Flooring under fridge 16Jun 13, 2016 2:00 pm JB1 [I forgot to mention that I did do a rough sand for the above reasons. While I'm sure you'll be careful, would you trust a project builder's tradies not to damage a pre finished flooring? Agreed! Cutting Edge Kitchens and Cabinet Making http://cuttingedgekitchens.net.au http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cutting-Edge-Kitchens/290484196676 Mobile : 0419 430 575 PH: 9452 4772 Fax :9452 4772 cuttingedgekitchens@outlook.com Re: Flooring under fridge 17Jun 13, 2016 2:31 pm Hello, Yes flooring is best all the way under the fridge, cupboards and ovens. I tiled my old house AROUND these items, getting the fridge over the tile 'step' was, well, entertaining at least. And the lower over storage door couldn't open all the way down. But my tiling effort was superb ! Boss wasn't too impressed..... I had a similar issue with my fridge not too long ago. It wasn't the same model, but the symptoms were pretty much the same: the compressor would start and then stop… 3 8933 I want to build a bigger driveway (without a nature strip) than has been approved under my CDC. I’ve also had a DA approved to build a deck. 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