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Author:  gettingThere [ Mar 03, 2010 11:51 am ]
Post subject:  Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard?

Hi all

Do you know what was used in the wet areas of your house? Water resistant plasterboard or Villaboard?
Also, which is better and why?

Look forward to reading your responses.

::smile::

Author:  guest [ Mar 03, 2010 1:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard?

Most builders used WR plaster board because it is cheaper. The finish (on Villa) if you dont tile all the way to the celing isnt as good as plaster board if you just paint it. WR is better for painting

Villa board is the better product in terms of water resistant and is less likely to break down, and is also stronger.

Author:  gettingThere [ Mar 03, 2010 1:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard?

Thank you borg!
I am going to check out Villa prices.
What other brands other than James Hardie Villaboard are there?

Author:  guest [ Mar 03, 2010 2:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard?

villa board = water resistant cement sheet

Author:  gettingThere [ Mar 03, 2010 2:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard?

Thanks again borg.
Is Fibre Cement Compressed Sheet also the same thing?

Author:  guest [ Mar 03, 2010 2:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard?

gettingThere gettingThere
Thanks again borg.
Is Fibre Cement Compressed Sheet also the same thing?

yep, it is usually 6mm thick for the bathrooms and not 10mm like plaster board. Also it has recessed edges for joining filling and stopping.

Author:  gettingThere [ Mar 03, 2010 2:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard?

Thank you!!!

Author:  cherub [ Mar 03, 2010 5:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard?

Quote:
Is Fibre Cement Compressed Sheet also the same thing?


Compressed sheets are thicker and used on wet area floors/decks, avalible in 15mm 18mm 24mm thickness

Author:  gettingThere [ Mar 05, 2010 8:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard?

cherub cherub
Quote:
Is Fibre Cement Compressed Sheet also the same thing?


Compressed sheets are thicker and used on wet area floors/decks, avalible in 15mm 18mm 24mm thickness


Thank you!

Author:  GeoffW1 [ Mar 05, 2010 9:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard?

gettingThere gettingThere
Hi all

Do you know what was used in the wet areas of your house? Water resistant plasterboard or Villaboard?
Also, which is better and why?

Look forward to reading your responses.

::smile::


Hi,

I'd always use villaboard (fibro) around the shower recess, all along those 2 or 3 walls. The bottom of those walls can get a bit of damp, and villaboard won't feel it.

You could use WR plaster board anywhere else.

Cheers

Author:  Jazzie [ Mar 05, 2010 9:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard?

We've just had both bathrooms wet sealed & once all the tiling has been finished, I've been told about a product that's sprayed over tiles & glass screens to keep them clean & grime free. It's not a do it yourself job, someone comes & does it. Definately going to look into this :th:

Jazz

Author:  Marimba83 [ May 16, 2014 10:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard?

Hi


I have rang Gyprock and James Hardie to find out about the products...
Since showers is the most important wet area I asked if the two products are suitable:


*Aquacheck (wet area) plasterboard 10mm is suitable for showers but needs a waterproof sealer before tiling.


*Villaboard 6mm is suitable for showers and does not require a sealer before tiling.


BOTH Products are manufactured for life. -this is what they told me.



also-

Villaboard has better impact resistance

Wet area plasterboard is easier to work with (my own experience)

can use Wet area plasterboard on ceilings (found this info on gyprock website)



Everyone raves on about Villaboard- but wet area plasterboard has to meet to the same standards as villaboard anyway.... so which one are you going to choose???


note: obviously wet area plasterboard does not need sealer on the other bathroom walls; just the shower before tiling
Can buy a tub of wetareas joint compound for to use on both products- (found hard to sand!)

Author:  qebtel [ May 16, 2014 2:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard?

borg borg
The finish (on Villa) if you dont tile all the way to the celing isnt as good as plaster board if you just paint it. WR is better for painting

Why exactly do you say that? I always use villaboard and find the finish is good. A flat surface is a flat surface when it comes to painting imho.

Author:  Stewie D [ May 16, 2014 2:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard?

You may be one of the lucky ones that has received a good batch qebtel. We have had some in the past that has a few roller marks when it has been pressed and rolled plus other imperfections that you just don't seem to get with the plasterboard. Mind you a quick coat of finish plaster to the affected area and decent painting usually solves the problem.
I still prefer Villaboard for wet areas though.

Stewie

Author:  Marimba83 [ May 16, 2014 3:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard?

Also on the call to gyprock, the representative tells me aquacheck (wet areas) plasterboard is equal to performance to CeminSeal Wallboard (fibre cement board) that is their version of the James Hardie product of Villaboard.

If you want, just call them- its only charged at a local call and you get answered straight away.


You can only go off the building standards and what the company says- or do your own proper experiment (but who has the time for that??), so when people say Villaboard is better what evidence do they have???



wet area plasterboard is alot easier work with and cut- esp thin strips and power points cut outs. you only need a utility knife, and a keyhole saw.

Author:  JB1 [ May 16, 2014 7:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard?

Wet area plasterboard perform just as well as villaboard IF the waterproofing holds up.

If the waterproofing on villaboard gets damage, its less of an issue.

Villaboard also require proofing.

I just used wet area plasterboard in my own bathroom. My plasterers didn't want to work with villaboard.

And if I got my carpenter to install the villaboard, the Plasterers will still need to work on it to get the joins smooth so the waterproofing cane be applied (plasterboard sheets are larger)

Fingers cross I don't regret my decision.

In my old house I renovated and installed villaboard myself in the shower area, I had to pack it out so the villaboard was flush with the thicker plasterboard. It wasn't super flush but didn't matter as I got the tiler to tile over the joins.

I can't comment if villaboard doesn't paint well as I tiled all walls go the ceiling. But I painted cement sheeting before and its ok.

So villaboard > wet area plasterboard.


Author:  Marimba83 [ May 17, 2014 12:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard?

JB1;

Most waterproofing membrane/sealer products will come with a warranty of around ten years that includes compensation for damage if well proven. (and have the receipt!)

If correctly applied, it should last for much, much longer. most of the labels on these products include the word permanent.
Also note; the tile adhesive and grout is waterproof in showers.

JB1 JB1
Fingers cross I don't regret my decision.


Relax, Can you now sleep easy?

Author:  JB1 [ May 17, 2014 10:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard?

I have no doubt that the membrane itself will last 25 or 50 years, but am worried about damage to the membrane by movement, damage by the tilers etc.

I wish anybody good luck in claiming warranty due to the product failing.

They will no doubt blame the installation an/or other factors. To blame the product would mean you have to rip up the tiles which will then damage the waterproofing, so you could never prove the product was defective- catch 22.

Grout is NOT waterproof and is not designed to be. That is what the membrane and puddle flange is for.

Also I also believe that the glue shouldn't be waterproof but porous. This allows the water under the tiles to flow down to the drain via the puddle flange.

In theory, water resistant plasterboard should perform as well as cement based plasterboard but when the waterproofing fails, cement sheet won't be damaged.

Not really an issue while under warranty if you used a builder as its their responsibility.

However as I owner built, that's why I'm hoping for the best and crossing my fingers :D


Author:  Marimba83 [ May 18, 2014 9:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard?

JB1 JB1
Grout is NOT waterproof and is not designed to be. That is what the membrane and puddle flange is for.


You can add a Grout Additive that Increases water resistance
http://www.bunnings.com.au/adhesive-dav ... 5_p6657144


You can use a Shower sealent over the grout
http://www.bunnings.com.au/sealant-show ... n_p1585225
http://www.bunnings.com.au/tile-guard-s ... t_p6820110


couldn't find tile adhesive esp wet area though this one is for outdoor areas, better than nothing
http://www.bunnings.com.au/dunlop-6-7kg ... t_p6829507


Also the waterproof Membrane is for tiling over. it designed to leave a tough suitable surface.
http://www.bunnings.com.au/gripset-bett ... e_p0960169


look mate if your that worried just keep covering the shower base with sealant maybe every 5 years or so...
http://www.bunnings.com.au/sealant-show ... n_p1585225
http://www.bunnings.com.au/sealant-show ... r_p6651334

Author:  JB1 [ May 18, 2014 8:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Wet areas - Villaboard or Water resistant plasterboard?

Yeah I think I should seal the grout.

Not only for waterproofing but also keep the grout on the floor tiles cleaner.

Which one do can you recommend.

The first one is a lot more pricier, but is it much better?


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